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The Plot Thickens
September 28th 2004, 03:06 CEST by jafd

11:42:51\ <jafd> Did you see the hhg2ttg teaser yet?
11:43:27\ <BobJustBob> Nope.
11:43:43\ <BobJustBob> But I can't say I care about it. No way a movie could come close to the books.
11:43:57\ <jafd> Or the television show.
11:44:01\ <jafd> Or the radio series.
11:44:04\ <jafd> Or the comic book.
11:44:20\ <jafd> Yeah, you're right, there's no point, there's no way the movie will be anything close to the books.
11:44:39\ <jafd> Even though the radio programme came first, he really hit his stride when he put those books out.
11:44:51\ <jafd> Over the span of two decades.
11:44:55\ <BobJustBob> Precisely.
11:44:55\ <jafd> See, now that's planning.
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#26 by Matt Davis
2004-09-28 10:00:02
http://looroll.com
If they make a movie a book it might be alright, but I get the feeling they're going to try and stuff the first two books into one film, which isn't enough time.

#27 by jafd
2004-09-28 10:17:09
I read that the plot of the movie will be wildly different from any previous incarnations. I can hardly wait.

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#28 by Matt Davis
2004-09-28 10:28:03
http://looroll.com
Thats probably a good thing, but like charlies angels and starsky & hutch, it would have probably been better to call the movie something else rather than leeching off a franchise that will only have a vague resemblance to the originals.

#29 by deadlock
2004-09-28 10:28:39
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Thinking...

shut up.
#30 by m0nty
2004-09-28 10:34:54
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Everything in the series since the first two or three books has had only a vague resemblance to the originals, so I don't see why the new stuff should buck the trend.
#31 by Ashiran
2004-09-28 13:02:46
With regard to thickening plots, is this for real?

Revolution time.
#32 by m0nty
2004-09-28 13:39:42
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I've read other articles saying the same thing, Ash. If hurricanes can strike the same state four times, lightning can strike twice.
#33 by Jibble
2004-09-28 14:06:13
#16 jafd
Anyway, you're all wrong. The interactive fiction version of HHG2tG is obviously the best version that will ever exist.

My dad had the original.  It came with a Ball of Fluff™.

убийство!
#34 by Neale
2004-09-28 14:09:08
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
In The Salmon Of Doubt (Adams' posthumously-published book), there's several snippets about the film in the planning stages. One quote is that the screenplay will specifically contradict the book.

Like the Star Wars films, it's a trade-off between what the creator wanted, and what you think it should be based on your memories of the original.

9 years later you're the fat kid with his face pressed against the window of The Industry. - crash
#35 by ProStyle
2004-09-28 14:32:49
http://prostyle.deviantart.com
It's got Mos Def, so hey... whateva

Fabricated like the word absurditive
#36 by Marsh Davies
2004-09-28 14:34:01
www.verbalchilli.com
I've enjoyed all forms of Hitchikers', particularly the books and TV series.

#37 by BobJustBob
2004-09-28 15:52:24
If it's a completely new story, then I take back my objections.

Dood.
#38 by jafd
2004-09-28 15:54:15
#34 Neale
One quote is that the screenplay will specifically contradict the book.

Yay! DNA reaches from the grave to punish Bob!

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#39 by BobJustBob
2004-09-28 15:57:27
Too late.

Dood.
#40 by Hugin
2004-09-28 16:02:00
lmccain@nber.org
#24 by Eyegore
2004-09-28 09:42:11
  
 Sgt Hulka has a post in the bin that looks all good up until the last paragraph where in a bizarro twist he tries to blame the whole problem on 'liberals'.  I think it's funny how the dark side likes to attribute anything wrong in society to 'liberals' screwing things up.  Besides it being an asinine assumption and political spin on a non-political issue, Hunka should be greatful that there are some 'liberals' left in the US or all those videogames would have been outlawed by the good christian right wing republicans years ago.


I believe Hulka is merely posting a quote from somone else.
#41 by ProStyle
2004-09-28 16:10:58
http://prostyle.deviantart.com
Yeah it was kind of confusing for me too. At first, it didn't seem out of Hulkas general prose - but then the page break and question was proposed and I assumed it was quoted.

Fabricated like the word absurditive
#42 by Neale
2004-09-28 18:06:09
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
Bob: it's not a completely new story, but Adams changed a lot of the elements for the screenplay.

9 years later you're the fat kid with his face pressed against the window of The Industry. - crash
#43 by BobJustBob
2004-09-28 18:09:07
Okay, then I'm skeptical again.

Dood.
#44 by Ergo
2004-09-28 18:09:10
The most frightening part of Hulka's topic is that he admits that he's reading Savage's book.

Mac OSX--UNIX For Girls (tm)
DVDs
#45 by Chunkstyle
2004-09-28 18:23:30
Somebody has to, or we won't know what the sneaky conservatives are up to.

Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
#46 by Matt Perkins
2004-09-28 18:41:03
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Ok, some Disgaea questions... (I just rented through an online service and it came without a manual)

1. Is the only way to gain experience is to get the final hit on something?  What about when a combo happens?  Can I see xperience on the character somewhere?  What about for doing special things like healing and so on?

2. How do I leave a damn fight already?  I've heard mention of Mr. Gentry's something should enable me to leave, but I didn't find it yet (I'm on the second chapter).  I went to the Item world once... had to reload because eventually I got beat down.

3. Archers/Gunmen...  Do they exist?  Or do I just take a warrior type and have them use that weapon?


Thanks much.  I really like the game so far, but I'm wondering about those things.

"She told me to tell you to quit being such an anal-retentive pussy."- Ergo
#47 by BobJustBob
2004-09-28 18:45:38
1) Any characters participating in a combo kill gain experience, but yes, only the final blow matters. The experience of a character is listed on the character's status screen.

2) Mr. Gency's Exit only allows you to escape from the Item World. You cannot escape from any other battles. You can find Mr. Gency's Exit as a random reward for beating stages, and it will always be the first reward item on every 10th floor of a random dungeon.

3) There are both archers and gunmen, but the classes don't matter too much. Just make sure the character has a high proficiency in the weapon type (you can see this during character creation when choosing the character's class, as well as on the character status screen for existing characters).

Dood.
#48 by Matt Perkins
2004-09-28 18:47:35
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Ahhh...  That answers all the questions.

Thanks much, Bob.

"She told me to tell you to quit being such an anal-retentive pussy."- Ergo
#49 by bago
2004-09-28 19:39:18
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Anyone have a working link to the trailer?

By the way, if signatures weren't for perverts, I'd totally sig this.
#50 by G-Man
2004-09-28 20:12:53
#49 bago
Anyone have a working link to the trailer?

Teaser and in different formats.

Does you company block google or something?
#51 by G-Man
2004-09-28 20:25:09
And in my opinion the movie looks like it is going to suck. The trailer looks like they are going for a style that is too Men-In-Black-ish for me. Mostly the title effects and wacky music. Totally the wrong tone for the picture and it is bound to mislead audiences about what to expect, which is never the key to good box office returns.
#52 by jafd
2004-09-28 20:29:32
#51 G-Man
Mostly the title effects and wacky music.

Uhm... you did see the BBC show, right? It was all about wacky music and effects.

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#53 by G-Man
2004-09-28 20:30:11
Wow, according to imdb, Jim Carrey was almost signed on at one point to play the role of Zaphod. That would have been interesting (although probably quite horrible). Also, Mos Def is Ford Prefect. This sort of connects us to the diversity topic now.
#54 by G-Man
2004-09-28 20:39:06
Different kind of wacky. More actiony than it should be, which is why I made the MIB reference.
#55 by jafd
2004-09-28 20:41:03
Considering that the teaser trailer is designed to interest people who have never heard of the book, it seems appropriate enough.

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#56 by Neale
2004-09-28 21:05:52
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
Another intreview with Adams mentioned how, when the idea of a HHGTTG movie began, studios generally weren't interested - mainly because a sci-fi comedy didn't do it for them. Then MIB came out with, as Adams himself noticed, certain similarities. So I'd expect it to be along those lines anyway.

9 years later you're the fat kid with his face pressed against the window of The Industry. - crash
#57 by Hugin
2004-09-28 21:55:25
lmccain@nber.org
I dunno, the books had a certain amount of explosions and zapping and such.  I have to imagine however, that yes, a goodly bit of the narrator digressions are going away, and that will be sad.
#58 by bago
2004-09-28 22:24:05
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
The BBC series went off into the narrator digressions all the time, so the move to film doesn't mean that they are going away.

By the way, if signatures weren't for perverts, I'd totally sig this.
#59 by bago
2004-09-28 22:24:58
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Besides, with people far more accustomed to hyperlinking, the progression will seem natural.

By the way, if signatures weren't for perverts, I'd totally sig this.
#60 by Your Friend
2004-09-28 23:07:14
I think it is safe to say they WILL go away.

The theatrical movie doesn't have nearly enough running time for them to be in there and American audiences who aren't already HHG fans would reject them even if it did.

#61 by bago
2004-09-29 01:59:56
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
http://www.boingboing.net/2004/09/28/iraq_visual_language.html

By the way, if signatures weren't for perverts, I'd totally sig this.
#62 by G-Man
2004-09-29 02:14:33
I wonder why the Al-Qaida, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Taliban flags are so much smaller their recognized nation counterparts.
#63 by Squeaky
2004-09-29 04:49:37
#28 Matt Davis
Thats probably a good thing, but like charlies angels and starsky & hutch, it would have probably been better to call the movie something else rather than leeching off a franchise that will only have a vague resemblance to the originals.

I dunno, Master & Commander: Far Side of the World pulled it off pretty well. It was loosely based upon the characters of book 1 (Master & Commander) and the events of book 10 (The Far Side of the World).

Quit your bitching, fucknut.
Return of the DVDs
#64 by m0nty
2004-09-29 09:52:47
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Hollywood makes lots of sci-fi comedies. If it can get Galaxy Quest and Evolution green-lighted, it shouldn't look down its nose at HHGTTG.
#65 by G-Man
2004-09-29 10:34:42
I think Hitchhiker will be just as successful as those movies.
#66 by jafd
2004-09-29 10:47:39
Galaxy Quest made $80 million domestic, Evolution made less than forty. The latter film cost almost three times as much to bring to market.

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#67 by Dethstryk
2004-09-29 14:34:30
jemartin@tcainternet.com
For my birthday next month, it looks like I'm going to head to Houston to catch two shows, two nights in a row. The first is Queensryche, the second is Anthrax and Dio.

The Queensryche show is going to blow me away. They are supposed to play the entire Operation: Mindcrime album live, and then play some of the songs from the upcoming sequel to that album. Since I was about 6 whenever the album originally came out, I wasn't able to check them out playing the album entirely, so I'm excited as fuck.
#68 by jafd
2004-09-29 14:47:56
SEEN IT. In their hometown. On New Year's Eve.

Naturally, it was billed as the last time they would ever do that, ho hum.

Dio is still alive?

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#69 by Hugin
2004-09-29 15:11:14
lmccain@nber.org
Galaxy Quest has also done very, very well in DVD.  Don't know about Evolution but I suspect it hasn't performed as well there either.
#70 by Jibble
2004-09-29 15:21:42
#68 jafd
Dio is still alive?

He has rocked for a long, long time.

убийство!
#71 by jafd
2004-09-29 15:35:36
I think the time may have come for him to pass the torch.

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#72 by Jibble
2004-09-29 15:40:37
For once, my good man, we agree.

убийство!
#73 by jafd
2004-09-29 15:52:07
Two words: Dio sauce.

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#74 by Dethstryk
2004-09-29 15:54:42
jemartin@tcainternet.com
I'm more excited about Anthrax than Dio, but that doesn't change the fact that I've never seen Dio live and Holy Diver is one of my favorite albums, ever.
#75 by CheesyPoof
2004-09-29 15:57:09
Galaxy Quest is a good movie.
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