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The Plot Thickens
September 28th 2004, 03:06 CEST by jafd

11:42:51\ <jafd> Did you see the hhg2ttg teaser yet?
11:43:27\ <BobJustBob> Nope.
11:43:43\ <BobJustBob> But I can't say I care about it. No way a movie could come close to the books.
11:43:57\ <jafd> Or the television show.
11:44:01\ <jafd> Or the radio series.
11:44:04\ <jafd> Or the comic book.
11:44:20\ <jafd> Yeah, you're right, there's no point, there's no way the movie will be anything close to the books.
11:44:39\ <jafd> Even though the radio programme came first, he really hit his stride when he put those books out.
11:44:51\ <jafd> Over the span of two decades.
11:44:55\ <BobJustBob> Precisely.
11:44:55\ <jafd> See, now that's planning.
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#1 by Ergo
2004-09-28 03:08:31
w00t?

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DVDs
#2 by Your Friend
2004-09-28 03:09:37
Bob is right, jafd is wrong.

The books are the only form in which the story really works, even if they didn't come first.

#3 by Ergo
2004-09-28 03:10:30
Let the great Last Word war begin!

Mac OSX--UNIX For Girls (tm)
DVDs
#4 by yotsuya
2004-09-28 03:18:04
Thank you, jafd.

All is right with the world, as long as you're gettin' some.
 -LittleWood
I wear my sunglasses at night.
#5 by BobJustBob
2004-09-28 03:23:43
Most of what I wanted to say about this has already been said by YF. It doesn't matter how many media the stories have been told through, or the chronological order in which they were created. If anything, though, the books are better precisely because they were more recent; he just had more time to perfect the stories.

In any case, there's just no way the movie could be as good as the books. They're just not the type of stories that would adapt well to a visual medium; too much would be lost.

Dood.
#6 by yotsuya
2004-09-28 03:25:12
I suppose, though, that if ILM did the effects, you COULD have a good-looking movie, and not something that looks like Doctor Who (as I remember the BBC TV version).

All is right with the world, as long as you're gettin' some.
 -LittleWood
I wear my sunglasses at night.
#7 by Your Friend
2004-09-28 03:30:23
Even if it looked good, most of the humor in the stories involves historical flashbacks and other stuff that just won't ever translate visually.

IOW... jafd: wrong, as usual.

#8 by G-Man
2004-09-28 03:34:26
I think what Bob means is that the situations, the characters and the dialog aren't what is funniest about the series. Most of the humor comes from the words Adams used and clever and unexpected juxtapositions of grammatical effects. Plus there is a LOT of narration, and that doesn't work well in film.
#9 by Shadarr
2004-09-28 03:39:12
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
What are we aguing?

"We're not trying to tell you what you like. You've told us what you like. We know what you like. It's just that what you like is stupid." - BobJustBob
#10 by BobJustBob
2004-09-28 03:58:52
I think asshole should stop trying to tell me what I mean. I made my point clearly enough.

Dood.
#11 by Squeaky
2004-09-28 04:08:58
I dunno, the t.v. show was funny enough.

Quit your bitching, fucknut.
Return of the DVDs
#12 by Squeaky
2004-09-28 04:09:08
I'm kinda excited about the movie.

Quit your bitching, fucknut.
Return of the DVDs
#13 by Percy Kittenz
2004-09-28 04:17:45
blakcat9@planetquake.com http://www.livejournal.com/users/percykittenz
11:45:00\ <Wowbagger-the-Infinitely-Prolonged> You're a jerk, jafd.

"There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy. Because your philosophy sucks." - Lore Fitzgerald Sj÷berg
#14 by jjohnsen
2004-09-28 04:28:58
http://www.johnsenclan.com
The link doesn't work for me, gives me some damn suprnova warning page.

i ain't got no love for the east cost
but i do love eatin butter with my toast
-DKI(ID
#15 by Dumdeedum
2004-09-28 05:12:34
http://www.dumdeedum.com
JJ, dunno if it's the same one as was linked, but there's a copy of the teaser here (30 meg).

Guest MP3OTW: Cherry Poppin' Daddies - Zoot Suit Riot.mp3 (Thanks Squeaky!)
#16 by jafd
2004-09-28 06:11:53
I thought the error message the link in the topic gave is extremely appropriate. It doesn't exactly say "We apologize for the inconvenience," but it's close enough.

Anyway, you're all wrong. The interactive fiction version of HHG2tG is obviously the best version that will ever exist.

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#17 by Your Friend
2004-09-28 06:47:42

The interactive fiction version of HHG2tG is obviously the best version that will ever exist.


No.

#18 by Shadarr
2004-09-28 07:38:30
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Holy crap, LAX is the worst show ever.  "Formation flying is the most dangerous thing you can do in an airplane.  I can't risk my passengers' lives like that."  "Wild Bill?  Does he even have his license anymore?"  The only thing worse than the melodramatic script is the deadpan delivery of said melodrama.

"We're not trying to tell you what you like. You've told us what you like. We know what you like. It's just that what you like is stupid." - BobJustBob
#19 by m0nty
2004-09-28 07:58:56
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
/me awards Percy Kittenz a zing
#20 by bago
2004-09-28 09:35:50
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Someone provide me with a working link. Also, the BBC production pulled of the narration rather well I thought.

By the way, if signatures weren't for perverts, I'd totally sig this.
#21 by bago
2004-09-28 09:36:27
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
/me resumes floating the the precise way that a bowling ball wouldn't.

By the way, if signatures weren't for perverts, I'd totally sig this.
#22 by bago
2004-09-28 09:36:55
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Take the first the, replace it with an in, and something legibl might occur.

By the way, if signatures weren't for perverts, I'd totally sig this.
#23 by bago
2004-09-28 09:37:12
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
NEEDS MORE E MANG!

By the way, if signatures weren't for perverts, I'd totally sig this.
#24 by Eyegore
2004-09-28 09:42:11
http://home.cfl.rr.com/eyegore/gallery.htm
Sgt Hulka has a post in the bin that looks all good up until the last paragraph where in a bizarro twist he tries to blame the whole problem on 'liberals'.  I think it's funny how the dark side likes to attribute anything wrong in society to 'liberals' screwing things up.  Besides it being an asinine assumption and political spin on a non-political issue, Hunka should be greatful that there are some 'liberals' left in the US or all those videogames would have been outlawed by the good christian right wing republicans years ago.
#25 by jafd
2004-09-28 09:58:20
#13 Percy Kittenz
11:45:00\ <Wowbagger-the-Infinitely-Prolonged> You're a jerk, jafd.

I thought I was Wowbagger.

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#26 by Matt Davis
2004-09-28 10:00:02
http://looroll.com
If they make a movie a book it might be alright, but I get the feeling they're going to try and stuff the first two books into one film, which isn't enough time.

#27 by jafd
2004-09-28 10:17:09
I read that the plot of the movie will be wildly different from any previous incarnations. I can hardly wait.

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#28 by Matt Davis
2004-09-28 10:28:03
http://looroll.com
Thats probably a good thing, but like charlies angels and starsky & hutch, it would have probably been better to call the movie something else rather than leeching off a franchise that will only have a vague resemblance to the originals.

#29 by deadlock
2004-09-28 10:28:39
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Thinking...

shut up.
#30 by m0nty
2004-09-28 10:34:54
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Everything in the series since the first two or three books has had only a vague resemblance to the originals, so I don't see why the new stuff should buck the trend.
#31 by Ashiran
2004-09-28 13:02:46
With regard to thickening plots, is this for real?

Revolution time.
#32 by m0nty
2004-09-28 13:39:42
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I've read other articles saying the same thing, Ash. If hurricanes can strike the same state four times, lightning can strike twice.
#33 by Jibble
2004-09-28 14:06:13
#16 jafd
Anyway, you're all wrong. The interactive fiction version of HHG2tG is obviously the best version that will ever exist.

My dad had the original.  It came with a Ball of Fluff™.

убийство!
#34 by Neale
2004-09-28 14:09:08
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
In The Salmon Of Doubt (Adams' posthumously-published book), there's several snippets about the film in the planning stages. One quote is that the screenplay will specifically contradict the book.

Like the Star Wars films, it's a trade-off between what the creator wanted, and what you think it should be based on your memories of the original.

9 years later you're the fat kid with his face pressed against the window of The Industry. - crash
#35 by ProStyle
2004-09-28 14:32:49
http://prostyle.deviantart.com
It's got Mos Def, so hey... whateva

Fabricated like the word absurditive
#36 by Marsh Davies
2004-09-28 14:34:01
www.verbalchilli.com
I've enjoyed all forms of Hitchikers', particularly the books and TV series.

#37 by BobJustBob
2004-09-28 15:52:24
If it's a completely new story, then I take back my objections.

Dood.
#38 by jafd
2004-09-28 15:54:15
#34 Neale
One quote is that the screenplay will specifically contradict the book.

Yay! DNA reaches from the grave to punish Bob!

"If the right one won't get you, the left one will."
#39 by BobJustBob
2004-09-28 15:57:27
Too late.

Dood.
#40 by Hugin
2004-09-28 16:02:00
lmccain@nber.org
#24 by Eyegore
2004-09-28 09:42:11
  
 Sgt Hulka has a post in the bin that looks all good up until the last paragraph where in a bizarro twist he tries to blame the whole problem on 'liberals'.  I think it's funny how the dark side likes to attribute anything wrong in society to 'liberals' screwing things up.  Besides it being an asinine assumption and political spin on a non-political issue, Hunka should be greatful that there are some 'liberals' left in the US or all those videogames would have been outlawed by the good christian right wing republicans years ago.


I believe Hulka is merely posting a quote from somone else.
#41 by ProStyle
2004-09-28 16:10:58
http://prostyle.deviantart.com
Yeah it was kind of confusing for me too. At first, it didn't seem out of Hulkas general prose - but then the page break and question was proposed and I assumed it was quoted.

Fabricated like the word absurditive
#42 by Neale
2004-09-28 18:06:09
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
Bob: it's not a completely new story, but Adams changed a lot of the elements for the screenplay.

9 years later you're the fat kid with his face pressed against the window of The Industry. - crash
#43 by BobJustBob
2004-09-28 18:09:07
Okay, then I'm skeptical again.

Dood.
#44 by Ergo
2004-09-28 18:09:10
The most frightening part of Hulka's topic is that he admits that he's reading Savage's book.

Mac OSX--UNIX For Girls (tm)
DVDs
#45 by Chunkstyle
2004-09-28 18:23:30
Somebody has to, or we won't know what the sneaky conservatives are up to.

Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
#46 by Matt Perkins
2004-09-28 18:41:03
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Ok, some Disgaea questions... (I just rented through an online service and it came without a manual)

1. Is the only way to gain experience is to get the final hit on something?  What about when a combo happens?  Can I see xperience on the character somewhere?  What about for doing special things like healing and so on?

2. How do I leave a damn fight already?  I've heard mention of Mr. Gentry's something should enable me to leave, but I didn't find it yet (I'm on the second chapter).  I went to the Item world once... had to reload because eventually I got beat down.

3. Archers/Gunmen...  Do they exist?  Or do I just take a warrior type and have them use that weapon?


Thanks much.  I really like the game so far, but I'm wondering about those things.

"She told me to tell you to quit being such an anal-retentive pussy."- Ergo
#47 by BobJustBob
2004-09-28 18:45:38
1) Any characters participating in a combo kill gain experience, but yes, only the final blow matters. The experience of a character is listed on the character's status screen.

2) Mr. Gency's Exit only allows you to escape from the Item World. You cannot escape from any other battles. You can find Mr. Gency's Exit as a random reward for beating stages, and it will always be the first reward item on every 10th floor of a random dungeon.

3) There are both archers and gunmen, but the classes don't matter too much. Just make sure the character has a high proficiency in the weapon type (you can see this during character creation when choosing the character's class, as well as on the character status screen for existing characters).

Dood.
#48 by Matt Perkins
2004-09-28 18:47:35
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Ahhh...  That answers all the questions.

Thanks much, Bob.

"She told me to tell you to quit being such an anal-retentive pussy."- Ergo
#49 by bago
2004-09-28 19:39:18
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Anyone have a working link to the trailer?

By the way, if signatures weren't for perverts, I'd totally sig this.
#50 by G-Man
2004-09-28 20:12:53
#49 bago
Anyone have a working link to the trailer?

Teaser and in different formats.

Does you company block google or something?
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