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Mario. And Mario.
January 23rd 2004, 00:51 CET by mgns

Nintendo is planning the release of a new handheld system by the end of the year. Apparently, this one has dual screens, each powered by its own processor. So far, all we can do is take their word for it, but come E3, says Satoru Iwata, they will demonstrate the actual hardware.

The Nintendo DS, as it's called today, will be two 3-inch TFT screens. Backlit, thank you very much. And according to the press release, semiconductor memory of up to 1 Gigabit. So we're looking at more cartridges, mayhaps. Speculation concerning the processors have the DS using ARM9 with an ARM7 sub-processor. No info on battery capacity or connectivity as of yet. The crowd demands wireless gaming, goddamnit!

Nintendo is adding this machine to their existing line-up. And if they make the deadline they've set out for themselves, "before the end of 2004", there will be three pieces of separate hardware with the Nintendo logo on it. One might speculate as to when they will start phasing out the gameboy, but given they just released the SP and that there's about a gazillion of Nintendo handhelds out there - there's plenty of money to be made off of it still.

Now, is this a further attempt from Nintendo to edge away from the living room console market. Is this the final nail in the Cube coffin? Will Nintendo focus solely on portable machines from here on?

Can they drum up enough third party developers to warrant buying the DS?

And can they best Sony's PSP?
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#1 by Frijoles
2004-01-23 00:52:21
I love my gamecube, so I certainly hope it's not the final nail in the coffin. Dunno about this dual screen thing though. I guess it's good for people who like to watch... or something.
#2 by Chunkstyle
2004-01-23 00:53:06
As long as they can come up with games that take advantage of both screens, and it costs less than $120, I'll buy one.

But I doubt they can do either.

Life is full of misery, loneliness, and suffering - and it's all over much too soon.
 -Woody Allen
#3 by Ergo
2004-01-23 00:55:16
Are there any pictures of this thing out there yet?

Duff Man promises a lotta things. Oh, yeah!
DVDs
#4 by jafd
2004-01-23 00:56:26
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It just screams "gimmick" to me. I'd rather have one big screen with two windows. I can see multi-monitor setups being useful on the desktop, but, on the bus?

If the ideas they have for games aren't tremendously interesting, this thing will tank. But probably still sell more than the N-Gage, ha ha.

Ask me about your mother.
#5 by Bailey
2004-01-23 00:57:07
I'd be honestly surprised if most games they put out for this will make full use of the dual screens. I assume for most, it will likely be little more than a constant mini-map or resource managing screen. Seems along the lines of the Virtual Boy in the stream of "well-thought out concepts", but time will tell.

Life without shame.
#6 by chris
2004-01-23 01:00:37
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
Considering that I bought a GBA and six games for it and have logged approximately, uh... four hours with the thing, I think I'll have to give this new system a miss.

-chris
(Anyone surprised? Anyone? No... no, I didn't think so)

<jafd> That's pretty much the only reason why I tolerate his bullshit.
#7 by LPMiller
2004-01-23 01:03:22
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Shocked. Stunned. Flabbergastededed.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#8 by Ergo
2004-01-23 01:04:21
#6 chris
Considering that I bought a GBA and six games for it and have logged approximately, uh... four hours with the thing, I think I'll have to give this new system a miss.

I'm the same way. I have about 5 games that I never play. Same thing goes for my consoles.

Duff Man promises a lotta things. Oh, yeah!
DVDs
#9 by Bailey
2004-01-23 01:17:56
I have about 800 GBA games I never play. Not sure why...

Life without shame.
#10 by Bailey
2004-01-23 01:18:19
I still think it's the bestest handheld system ever, mind you.

Life without shame.
#11 by BobJustBob
2004-01-23 01:20:39
I like it.

Dood.
#12 by LPMiller
2004-01-23 01:21:27
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
There you go...doomed.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#13 by Caryn
2004-01-23 01:24:17
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
I still love my GBA. I've got about 12 games and a couple of them I've finished, and I've been logging some serious time with about three others recently. I'm just hoping this new system doesn't mean the GBA goes by the way side too quickly.

I am in Kyoto
Yet at the voice of the Hototogisu
Longing for Kyoto
- Basho
#14 by Matt Perkins
2004-01-23 01:25:17
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
For games like real time strategy with maps up all the time, or being able to see two parts of the map at once it would be fun.

But I agree with Bailey, it sounds very gimmickie

"Good, good. Now, and here is where I'm going with this - I'll be fucked if I can remember how to farm."
- LP
#15 by Bailey
2004-01-23 01:27:16
Caryn, the original article I remember reading about this mentioned that the game will be launched the same time as the next-generation GBA... I have no idea what that implies.

Life without shame.
#16 by Bailey
2004-01-23 01:27:54
"The game" should probably read "the game system", durr.

Life without shame.
#17 by lwf
2004-01-23 01:30:27
I thought the game system IS the next gen GBA.

Are you here right now or are there probably fossils under your meat
#18 by Matt Perkins
2004-01-23 01:37:05
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
No, Nintendo specifically states this system is NOT a replacement for the GBA.  Which probably bodes even less well for it.

"Good, good. Now, and here is where I'm going with this - I'll be fucked if I can remember how to farm."
- LP
#19 by jjohnsen
2004-01-23 01:38:53
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It might be cool to always have an inventory screen or map always open, but I can't see how most games would make use of it.

jafd
If the ideas they have for games aren't tremendously interesting, this thing will tank. But probably still sell more than the N-Gage, ha ha.


I saw numbers somewhere that said holiday sales for the N-gage were around 15,000 worldwide.  Wow . . .  How would it feel to be the guy that first pitched that idea to Nokia?

-Jeremy
#20 by mgns
2004-01-23 01:42:16
jj,

That guy's probably already been paid.

How would it feel to be the guy that green-lighted the project?

He leans on the hood telling racing stories, the kids call him Jimmy The Saint.
#21 by E-ph0nk
2004-01-23 01:42:34
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I think the big N will try to use this to steal some of the show of sony's handheld.  I'm sure that they have some clever games designed for it (zelda/mario/metroid - choose your franchise).
I doubt that they expect it to sell as well as the GBA, but if it's any good it might lower the sales of the PSP.  Rumours are nintendo will sell the system for 149 Euro - half of the price of a PSP.

*sigh*
#22 by Bailey
2004-01-23 01:44:25
lwf

I thought the game system IS the next gen GBA.

Try to keep up with the rest of the class, Mr.Farmer!

mgns

How would it feel to be the guy that green-lighted the project?

Unemployed.

Life without shame.
#23 by mgns
2004-01-23 01:46:55
Bailey,

Worst part being, he's probably at a new company right now, thinking up the Next Big Thing!

He leans on the hood telling racing stories, the kids call him Jimmy The Saint.
#24 by Bailey
2004-01-23 01:52:00
That's pretty much how any industry works. A spectacular failure is still spectacular on one's resume.

Life without shame.
#25 by "FAVICON"
2004-01-23 01:56:00
FAVICON@FAVICON.COM HTTP://WWW.FAVICON.COM
IM BROKEN AFTER THE FAPPIN

LISTENING TO PYOGENESIS

ROCKING MY HEAD

HEADING TO BED

EYES CLOSING

SLEEPIN TILL THE SUN DAWNS

IN THE RED SKY

THE APOCALYPSE IS NOW
#26 by "FAVICON"
2004-01-23 01:57:49
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-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-(^_^)

TEH WORM IS SLEEPING
#27 by "FAVICON"
2004-01-23 01:58:42
FAVICON@FAVICON.COM HTTP://WWW.FAVICON.COM
HOLA USTED CHICOS!
#28 by bago
2004-01-23 02:02:17
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
No, the idea wasn't that bad. It was the engineering decisions that were retarded. The architect of that thing should be fired.

The moneky poured coffee in my MOOTZ!
#29 by mgns
2004-01-23 02:02:42
... into orbit.

He leans on the hood telling racing stories, the kids call him Jimmy The Saint.
#30 by LPMiller
2004-01-23 02:03:33
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
...with his very own icon.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#31 by BobJustBob
2004-01-23 02:05:10
We really don't know enough about this new product to be discussing it anyway. Let's discuss how much the PSP sucks instead.

Dood.
#32 by "FAVICON"
2004-01-23 02:08:53
FAVICON@FAVICON.COM HTTP://WWW.FAVICON.COM
LETS SEE HOW FAST I CAN RUIN THIS THREAD HAHAA
#33 by LPMiller
2004-01-23 02:13:41
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
While fans of the new BATTLESTAR GALACTICA "re-imagining" wait for official word to find out whether or not The Sci Fi Channel has decided to take the show to series, we've heard from one of our trustworthy sources on the matter. According to this Vancouver-based source, the Channel has given the producers of the new GALACTICA a six-episode commitment. It just hasn't been officially announced yet.

Debuting to strong ratings, last month's broadcast of the two-part, four-hour BATTLESTAR GALACTICA mini-series earned the Sci Fi Channel its third highest ratings ever for a program. The second night of GALACTICA grabbed a larger share of the audience than the first night. Usually this kind of good news would be enough to launch the program into a full-fledged series but the show's high cost per episode (which is ironically the same kind of issue that led to the original GALACTICA's swift cancellation after just one season) is contributing to cold feet by Channel suits. But as our source tells us -- and we know who they are and their previous established track history is solid -- the Channel has ordered a half-dozen hour-long episodes. It's expected that all of the primary cast members from the mini-series will re-appear in the series version of GALACTICA.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#34 by jjohnsen
2004-01-23 02:23:21
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Thats a nice step in the right direction, but only 6 episodes?

-Jeremy
#35 by Shadarr
2004-01-23 02:24:39
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I'm pretty sure that I've logged more time on my GBA since purchasing a GameCube than I have on the GameCube itself.  But this dual-screen thing sounds dumb.  Unless it allows two-player with one console... that'd be cool.
#36 by Jibble
2004-01-23 02:39:13
I'm still boggling over the PSP's multi-channel audio.  I'm trying to figure out if they'll be shipping headphones with it that will recreate 5-channel.

Please God, help me cleanse the computer of viruses and evil photographs that disturb and ruin my work so that I shall be able to cleanse myself.
#37 by Bailey
2004-01-23 03:03:24
Vancouver, eh? I'd make a good Cylon...

Life without shame.
#38 by Bailey
2004-01-23 03:15:46
As a side note, School Tycoon? Good to see the well finally ran dry.

Life without shame.
#39 by Sgt Hulka
2004-01-23 03:53:47
School Tycoon? Good to see the well finally ran dry.


No, I believe that'll be when we see Booger Tycoon.

He's the worst kind of stupid, the accepting kind.
#40 by Creole Ned
2004-01-23 05:06:04
This seems to be one of those ideas from the Virtual Boy side of Nintendo. I can't see it being successful in any significant way. As others said, the dual screen approach seems like little more than a gimmick. I guess we;ll see when it gets the official unveiling at E3 in May.

"I don't bemoan the great paste" - LPMiller
#41 by Your Friend
2004-01-23 05:06:15
The PSP will be a disaster no matter what Nintendo does to 'steal its thunder'.

This new Nintendo handheld sounds misguided as well, but I'll hold off on final judgement until more information is released.

The GBA is awesome.  EOD.

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#42 by Your Friend
2004-01-23 05:08:50

This seems to be one of those ideas from the Virtual Boy side of Nintendo.


The Virtual Boy 'side' of Nintendo was killed in a roadside accident.  But yeah, I know what you mean.

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#43 by BobJustBob
2004-01-23 05:27:02
They should make a Virtual Boy 2. Just get it out at a lower price, maybe make it smaller, and everyone's happy.

Dood.
#44 by Jibble
2004-01-23 05:27:26
You're fired before we even hire you.

Please God, help me cleanse the computer of viruses and evil photographs that disturb and ruin my work so that I shall be able to cleanse myself.
#45 by jjohnsen
2004-01-23 05:28:37
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Was Bob at all involved with the N-gage?

-Jeremy
#46 by Creole Ned
2004-01-23 05:34:34
Bob is PlanetCrap's N-Gage.

"I don't bemoan the great paste" - LPMiller
#47 by Squeaky
2004-01-23 05:58:59
Virtual Boy 2.0!

-szcx
dvds
#48 by HexagonCalamity
2004-01-23 06:03:03
Nintendo has just proven they're certifiably.. NUTS.
#49 by JMCDaveL
2004-01-23 06:47:32
From Metroid Prime to You Don't Know Jack-Off

--jmc
#50 by Your Friend
2004-01-23 06:53:16
Never understood the appeal of such 'adult' games.  If I wanted to see topless videos, I'd just watch porn.

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