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Balderama: The Making Of A Troll
December 18th 2003, 04:35 CET by The_Joker

In may 2002 everyone on Planetcrap got to meet Balderama. It was just another day at work, I was bored so I browsed Planetcrap. I wasn't logged in yet, and I just thought I'd fool around and post using an unregistered nickname. So Balderama was born, immediately introducing his main characteristic, complaining about the requirement of an email address to register. Kindof like how when you think of Joker you immediately think of his wang. Which was also what one of the first replies to Baldy was about:

Morn - Bananarama: lucky you, this site doesn't even require you to register.

 
I chose the email address thing mainly because I remembered flamethrower complaining about it as well, so I guess from the beginning I purposely associated the character with flamethrower, and I think that was mainly to camouflage myself, so people wouldn't try to find out who Balderama really was, but rather accept he's probably flamethrower, because I was aware of the fact that a simple whois on my IP would reveal the truth. And it worked well, because I managed to fool everyone with it, even Caryn, Gunp01nt and jafd and for 1,5 year.

Caryn - Hmm, is Balderama our dear Flamethrower?
 
Gunp01nt - *this is a test* .....2. What is your opinion on the IRA, or Northern Ireland in general?......

jafd - Flamethrower is still here, he's just been shamed into going by "Balderama".


And to make sure people wouldn't think Joker and Baldy were the same person, I made sure Joker often got into trouble with Baldy, calling eachother stupid fucks and whatnot.

Balderama - Re: Joker [q]I think Bananarama will love the Cliffery B picture.[/q]

I'll rama my banana in your ass, you fucking cuntlick.  

The_Joker - Re: Balderama: Nice try, but needs werk. May THE FORCE be in you, young padawang. I'm sure you can figure out what THE FORCE is. Yep, that's right, my wang!


Note that I purposely used words flamethrower often used, like methinks, SKO etc. so it looked like Baldy was probably flamethrower. I even sometimes faked forgetting about the proper formatting tags and used other ones that didn't work, just like flamethrower sometimes did.

I also kindof abused the character to support Joker's view on certain topics. When Joker would for example give his opinion on something, Baldy would pop up and support 90% of Joker's view. And vice versa, ofcourse.

The_Joker - Just look at product craptivation. And although Balderama acts like a complete dumb fuck, I agree with him on the security thing.


This was especially the case during the IRAQ war. I know flamethrower was into politics and global affairs and liked to link to stuff so instead of posting about the war as Joker, I mainly did so as Baldy. I even let Joker and Baldy have some discussions on the topic, where Baldy corrected Joker in the war thread, and Joker replying in a way where it was obvious he was trying to save face. And I succeeded because at least one other poster noticed and mentioned it. I had quite a lot of fun during the war with Joker and Baldy. Like flamethrower, Baldy also had a lot to say about The Netherlands.

But where it almost went really bad was when I attempted to talk about the situation in Ireland, between the IRA and Sinn Fein. That was after Gunp01nt came with his test to see if Baldy was flamethrower. I didn't have the slightest clue as to what it was all about, but I was willing to take an adventure with the Baldy character and see how far I could go. So in the Iraq War thread Baldy got into a discussion with Neale and Deadlock, and got beaten horribly. I did manage to somehow pull Baldy out of it though, I don't think people started suspecting something was wrong. But I did spend quite some time researching stuff on Google so I could at least give some form of intelligent answer as Baldy on the topic. It didn't do much good though, as the whole fucking situation in Ireland is confusing as hell.

And at that time Gunp01nt was already in on the Baldy character. I told him myself in an email when he asked why I wasn't posting so often. During the War thread I was posting so much as Baldy, that I almost forgot Joker. I think Gunp01nt probably enjoyed watching me taking a beating as Baldy on the Ireland topic.

I am overall very satisfied with how Baldy turned out, Baldy did have a lot of influence at times, I can remember threads were I'd jump in as Baldy and mention email addresses and everyone would stop the discussion to reply to Baldy. Or i'd jump in the middle of a discussion, say something stupid to troll everyone and get almost everyone's attention for the next 50-100 posts. What was interesting, is that no matter how many times I brought up the email address requirement thing, people would still reply and comment on it no matter how stupid and boneheaded it sounded.


Some opinions on Baldy:


JMCDaveL: And Balderama, you know you are making Joker look like a veritable genius in comparison, right?

Warren Marshall: Balderama, Your whoring has reached new levels of depravity.

Dethstryk: You're an idiot.

crash: i've named my scroll wheel "Balderama".

Matt Perkins: Balderama...  Words just don't bring justice to the persitance of Balder.
 
Trolly McTroll: and Balderama is my mama

Euri: Trolls are either random, or methodical. They either throw out stupid pointless shit (Balderama) or consistently support moronic things (Wudi)

Matthew Gallant: I just want to know what the fascination is. I mean, it's like Balderama and his regular mentioning of PC's email requirements.

Warren Marshall: Balderama ... you so crazy!

Squeaky: I've developed a similar condition, except mine goes on to include balderama and dingleberry.

HoseWater: WTF is baldy going on about?

Chunkstyle: Baldy, did the US bully you in grade school, or kick your dog, or steal your favorite comic book?

jjohnsen: We don't need to worry about topics in the bin, because with Baldy every thread is a war thread.

LPMiller: I'll ignore Dingle, but you...son, where does it say being open to other views means I can't disagree with them, argue with them, or when they are nutjob trolls like Baldy, call them mean names and make them cry?

CheesyPoof: Is baldy french or something?  So very bitter.  

CheesyPoof: It joker, dingle, or baldy.  Connect the dots.  It's not difficult.  

jjohnsen: Oh its Baldy by far, at least Joker goes off onto other subjects once in a while.

CheesyPoof: Baldy want's to kill children, you know how dangerous they can be.  

yotsuya: Baldy-How can you be talking about movies when people are dying?

deadlock: You loveable baldy!



So if it wasn't for Gunp01nt, I'd probably continue this another year or so or until I got bored. So you should all probably thank Gunp01nt. Overall I enjoyed being Baldy. It was fun. Looking forward toyour comments!
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#1 by LoneStar
2003-12-18 04:43:25
cwcraig64@hotmail.com
This SUCKS!

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one
#2 by jafd
2003-12-18 04:45:53
There's amphetamines in the IV.

"It was fucking RPGotY, fucker!"
#3 by m0nty
2003-12-18 04:46:06
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
SO LONELY.

I mean seriously, imaginary friends are a sign of deep-seated mental illness, dude. Stick to your wang.
#4 by bago
2003-12-18 04:47:02
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Perhaps you mean.. This STROKES!

You DARE to worship a god other than Allah? Allah does not know who this "Ctulhu" character is, kufr, but when he finds out he is going to kick that Jew deity down a flight of fucking stairs.
#5 by Dumdeedum
2003-12-18 04:49:12
http://www.dumdeedum.com
I hear good things about communism.

Hey You! Don't watch that, watch this!  This is the heavy, heavy monster sound.
#6 by m0nty
2003-12-18 04:50:40
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Bah, democracy gives you lots more gold, plus your research doesn't get cut to shreds. Anyway, it's all about the nukes.
#7 by Chunkstyle
2003-12-18 04:51:56
How did this get in?  Is Joker really Morn?

I put the lime in the coconut, I drank it all up.
#8 by m0nty
2003-12-18 04:53:16
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Gabe is the culprit. He should be working on Nebula, or something for Mandog!
#9 by BobJustBob
2003-12-18 04:54:27
This is just pathetic.

Dood.
#10 by LoneStar
2003-12-18 04:54:44
cwcraig64@hotmail.com
Gabe would never do something like this! :)

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one
#11 by jafd
2003-12-18 04:59:17
The silver lining is that the title of the topic immediately preceding this one is completely shot to hell.

"It was fucking RPGotY, fucker!"
#12 by LoneStar
2003-12-18 04:59:52
cwcraig64@hotmail.com
Best app you used in 2003?

Spybot Search and Destroy

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one
#13 by jjohnsen
2003-12-18 05:00:47
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I know that So Lonely gets overused, but who really has this kind of time on their hands?  I congratulate Joker for coming up with another personality on the 'crap, but is that enough of an accomplishment to submit this?
#14 by jafd
2003-12-18 05:09:43
What accomplishment? He couldn't even a) use Anonymizer.org and/or b) keep his mouth shut. He only "succeeded" because no one gave a shit. I don't see how slightly different variations on everyone saying, "shut the fuck up, dumbass," is notable.

Coming soon*: I'll change my name to "dfaj" and start condemning people who make fewer spelling errors than the norm. I'll accuse them of being "so lonely" because they clearly have time to read the dictionary from back to front. You'll all be so ruled!!!1!

*: 2029

"It was fucking RPGotY, fucker!"
#15 by Trunks
2003-12-18 05:14:15
Wahooooo...

"Because apparently, Link should be visiting strippers and getting his rocks off every time he blows the magic flute." - LPMiller
#16 by yotsuya
2003-12-18 05:15:51
I think anybody who comes up with a second personality on a message board and posts to themselves is fucking stupid.

"YES!!  You see people, THAT'S why he's the Vice-President of A/V Services here at Respawn Games.  Yotsuya ALWAYS unleashes the fucking fury!" - Warren Marshall
#17 by LPMiller
2003-12-18 05:21:46
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
I knew it wasnt flamethrower. He won't come back until someone sends him a free replacement cdrom for PlanetCrap v 4.0

I believe I can fly......urk.
#18 by Dethstryk
2003-12-18 05:34:40
jemartin@tcainternet.com
I needed confirmation that Joker is an idiot?

sunny days have funny ways of quieting the roar
#19 by Gabe
2003-12-18 05:39:45
http://www.dartpublishing.com
Who's the bigger idiot? The idiot or the idiots that responded to the idiot?
#20 by jafd
2003-12-18 05:43:30
I think you're playing fast and loose with the definition of "responded" there, sonny.

"It was fucking RPGotY, fucker!"
#21 by Gabe
2003-12-18 05:45:51
http://www.dartpublishing.com
Since you're the prime culprit, not surprising you'd say that.
#22 by jafd
2003-12-18 05:51:14
"Fuck you" isn't a response.

"It was fucking RPGotY, fucker!"
#23 by Warren Marshall
2003-12-18 06:55:08
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
#19 Gabe
Who's the bigger idiot? The idiot or the idiots that responded to the idiot?

Or perhaps the idiot that pushed the idiots topic through, thereby validating the original idiot?

Respawn Games
Open your mind, let the beatings begin.
#24 by Gabe
2003-12-18 07:01:11
http://www.dartpublishing.com
But constantly responding to him didn't validate him before? I was honestly curious to how people would respond, so thank you for the data point.
#25 by Winter Meatloaf
2003-12-18 07:01:49
DKI.  IF YOU ARE IN THIS TOPIC I DEMAND YOU REMOVE YOURSELF IMMEDIATELY.
#26 by Warren Marshall
2003-12-18 07:20:53
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
#24 Gabe
But constantly responding to him didn't validate him before? I was honestly curious to how people would respond, so thank you for the data point.

Can we talk about abuse of power next?

Respawn Games
Open your mind, let the beatings begin.
#27 by jjz
2003-12-18 07:31:29
It was an interesting topic.
#28 by Sgt Hulka
2003-12-18 07:32:37
I too thought it was an interesting journey into the mind of the master wang master.

#29 by Terata
2003-12-18 08:00:21
It's all just a non-euclidian nightmare form of online performance art.  Try not to look too hard or it'll blind you from the fifth dimension.
#30 by Spring Turnip Festival
2003-12-18 08:03:52
Hey Winter Meatloaf I heard he was seen leaving plastic and walking towards kuro5hin.org.. u might want to look into it
#31 by The_Joker
2003-12-18 10:46:10
http://www.jackinworld.com
On pretending to be flamethrower:

Baldy never said he was flamethrower. So you can't say he pretended to be flamethrower. He just looked a lot like flamethrower making people think it could be flamethrower. There's a difference.

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration.
"I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka

PENETRATOR: Rise of the Wang Cuming "When it's done".
#32 by """""Balderama"""""
2003-12-18 12:51:34
support@real.com
#14 by jafd

I'll change my name to "dfaj" and start condemning people...


Why don't you change it to "dfag". As in D-Fag.


Oh, and hi everyone. Everything cool?
#33 by deadlock
2003-12-18 13:05:13
http://www.deadlocked.org/
You forgot to log in again.

"You know you are doing art when everyone has an opinion of what you're doing." - Lexx, creator of the supremely stupid Doom for Columbine mod.
#34 by deadlock
2003-12-18 13:05:47
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Also, your domain has expired.

"You know you are doing art when everyone has an opinion of what you're doing." - Lexx, creator of the supremely stupid Doom for Columbine mod.
#35 by """""Balderama"""""
2003-12-18 13:08:39
support@real.com
Sigh... Do I really have to mention the problem with this site again?
#36 by Ashiran
2003-12-18 13:44:56
I applaud Joker for his experiment. I will be expecting a publication in some science magazine soon.

I tolerate everything except intolerance.
#37 by Gunp01nt
2003-12-18 14:11:54
supersimon33@hotmail.com
It's not like I haven't been dropping subtle hints that Balderama = Joker for about a year. It only took Jibble (or anyone else for that matter) looking up the IPs to convince other people.

The reason why I just went and said it is that I was getting sick of the antics and shallowness of both the Balderama and Joker characters. Balderama hasn't done much else than bitch about the required e-mail address for 90% of the time and Joker just kept to a daily wang post.

Because the bigger problem we're looking at here is that Joker is being driven by the (false) notion that, secretly, everyone thinks he is Ze Ultimate Funnay and really appreciates his posts.
I'd just like to say to you, Karel... give up. Delete the Joker account, create a Karel Donk account and just post here as yourself, take part in discussions, but just don't try to be the fucking master of comedy because you're not, even though a few ringing endorsements have lead you to believe that. You shouldn't even want to be (nobody should, for that matter).

"We need to eliminate redundant trolls and consolidate our trolling interests into one streamlined mega-troll."
-Bailey
#38 by Ashiran
2003-12-18 14:19:05
Dutch swearing may now commence.

Eikels.

I tolerate everything except intolerance.
#39 by Gunp01nt
2003-12-18 14:20:19
supersimon33@hotmail.com
At whom are we swearing here?

"We need to eliminate redundant trolls and consolidate our trolling interests into one streamlined mega-troll."
-Bailey
#40 by Ashiran
2003-12-18 14:23:00
People in general.

I tolerate everything except intolerance.
#41 by Gunp01nt
2003-12-18 14:31:20
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Oh, in that case...

Knuddekutjes!

"We need to eliminate redundant trolls and consolidate our trolling interests into one streamlined mega-troll."
-Bailey
#42 by Ashiran
2003-12-18 14:36:20
That was pathetic.

I tolerate everything except intolerance.
#43 by """""Balderama"""""
2003-12-18 14:36:41
support@real.com
#37

[q]The reason why I just went and said it is that I was getting sick of the antics and shallowness of both the Balderama and Joker characters. Balderama hasn't done much else than bitch about the required e-mail address for 90% of the time and Joker just kept to a daily wang post.[/q]

I'm just going to answer this and let Joker take his shot at it much later. Methinks what you're sick of is not so much my and Joker's posts but the fact that we were succeeding with what we were trying to accomplish. THAT is why you just went and said it like SKO stupid cunt, in an attempt to get accepted by the rest, just like you've been trying so hard the last month. And you know what? It's pathetic.
#44 by Gunp01nt
2003-12-18 14:37:26
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Methinks what you're sick of is not so much my and Joker's posts but the fact that we were succeeding with what we were trying to accomplish.


Define 'succeeding'.
Heck, define 'accomplish'.

"We need to eliminate redundant trolls and consolidate our trolling interests into one streamlined mega-troll."
-Bailey
#45 by """""Balderama"""""
2003-12-18 14:52:05
support@real.com
Think.
#46 by CheesyPoof
2003-12-18 15:03:57
Will the real Karel Donk please stand up?  Or is he really crazy?
#47 by Ashiran
2003-12-18 15:07:01
Don't ask.

I tolerate everything except intolerance.
#48 by jjohnsen
2003-12-18 15:08:25
http://www.johnsenclan.com
The baldy character looses any flavor it might have had when you know who it is.  Time to retire him Joker, and come up with something new.
#49 by Dethstryk
2003-12-18 15:10:15
jemartin@tcainternet.com
Come up with something "new," such as posting as yourself and taking part in discussions, instead of thinking that you are this hilarious king of comedy with your stupid fucking dick jokes.

sunny days have funny ways of quieting the roar
#50 by Trolly McTroll
2003-12-18 15:16:40
#49 Dethstryk
Come up with something "new," such as posting as yourself and taking part in discussions, instead of thinking that you are this hilarious king of comedy with your stupid fucking dick jokes.


Karel  / Kamma Sutra ?
Donk / Dong ?
Wang / Wiener ?

YOu get it now?  It's right in front of your face.

"..and Trolly McTroll is the best name EVER. I laugh every time I see it."  - ZEP
" If i ever have a daughter, I'm going to name her Trolly. - The_Joker
"I agree with Trolly. " - yotsuya
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