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Love Affair With a Game...
August 25th 2003, 17:23 CEST by Veloxi

I began playing Jumpgate, the ONLY space sim/RPG around, almost three years ago, and have barely stopped since. I keep playing the game because it fulfills a long time dream of mine. Many years ago, when playing Wing Commander: Privateer, I thought to myself, "How cool would it be if all of those other ships around me were piloted by real people?". Well, Jumpgate provides this pleasurable experience in spades. I sometimes take a week or a month off to refocus myself, but I've never spent too much time away from the game.

So what about you? Are there games that, no matter what, you always return to, no matter what new or assumingly better games have come out since its release?
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#1 by Greg
2003-08-25 17:25:57
I always return to Pong.

We are OK in a misguided, sadist way.
We are OK in a disabled veteran's way.
We are OK.
#2 by Darkseid-D
2003-08-25 17:27:29
rogerboal@hotmail.com
ADOM, Dungeons of Moria, Nethack, Tetris, BookWorm

I dust off warzone 2100 every now and again and rattle around in it for laughs

Do not go gently into that good night.
Old age should burn and rage at the close of day.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
#3 by mrbloo
2003-08-25 17:32:04
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com
I still play DoD and Counterstrike against bots.  I dunno if that counts.  Otherwise, no.

#4 by Warren Marshall
2003-08-25 17:32:51
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
I find myself returning to Max Payne when I want some quick action and Dungeon Siege when I need something to do before bed.  I also keep coming back to Fallout2 with the intention of, "This time, I'll finish it!".  Never seems to work out that way though.

Respawn Games
Open your mind, let the beatings begin.
#5 by Chunkstyle
2003-08-25 17:34:22
Galaga, Qix, Pengo, Dig Dug, Ms. Pac-Man.  

Starflight & Bards Tale, when I can get them to work.

There's joy in repetition.
#6 by Trolly McTroll
2003-08-25 17:35:04
Duke Nukem 3D

"..and Trolly McTroll is the best name EVER. I laugh every time I see it."  - ZEP
" If i ever have a daughter, I'm going to name her Trolly. - The_Joker
#7 by Gunp01nt
2003-08-25 17:35:05
supersimon33@hotmail.com
I played a little Xenon 2 last night, too bad I can't properly configure my sound card (DOS drivers and all that) to get the music. God, that music ruled!

"You know what happens to schoolgirls in Japanese cartoons? Hmm, tentacles!"
#8 by Caryn
2003-08-25 17:35:51
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
I tend to love going back to Civ III. Once I actually played a whole game all the way through, I find I like to go back and start and grow new civilizations on new maps, and then the moment someone declares war on me I scrap it and start over.

He said, "child, you've got a long road" - and I said, "good, 'cause I need to be forgiven."
#9 by deadlock
2003-08-25 17:38:02
http://www.deadlocked.org/
I dig out either of the first two Monkey Islands when I want a bit of nostalgic point 'n' click adventurin'. Other than that... Sometimes I play Nemesis 2 on MAME, takes me back to the good old days when we had our MSX.

In terms of more recent games, Quake3 has been installed on my hard drive since I bought it way back when and I still play it from time to time. Only q3dm17 though, as far as I'm concerned, there is no other map in that game!

give it to me raw, i'll take it home and cook it myself
#10 by deadlock
2003-08-25 17:40:12
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Gunpo1nt: ah, the Bitmap Brothers... I used to love Magic Pockets. Absolutely brilliant game. As was Gods, Cadaver (1 and 2) and, of course, Speedball 2. The Difference Engine was fantastic as well. Anyone played their WWII RTS yet?

give it to me raw, i'll take it home and cook it myself
#11 by Trolly McTroll
2003-08-25 17:45:57
Rock and Roll McDonalds is dead.

"..and Trolly McTroll is the best name EVER. I laugh every time I see it."  - ZEP
" If i ever have a daughter, I'm going to name her Trolly. - The_Joker
#12 by m0nty
2003-08-25 17:53:43
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Spider Solitaire.

And Civ3, of course.
#13 by Your Friend
2003-08-25 17:55:53
Post 0 reads like a friggin astroturf ad for Jumpgate.

Veloxi's website is running a big ad (on the right) for Jumpgate (seems to be the only ad they have there when I reload the page a few times).

Coincidence?

"Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me."
#14 by LPMiller
2003-08-25 17:58:20
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
I can't think of games I go back and play again. Gothic, and maybe half life. Usually, once I'm done, I'm done, replay value or no.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#15 by mrbloo
2003-08-25 18:13:53
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com
Damn, put me down for Civ3 as well.  I haven't played it for a year because I tend to lose weeks to it, but I want to play it now.  Must be strong...

#16 by Gunp01nt
2003-08-25 18:15:51
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Usually, once I'm done, I'm done, replay value or no.


same here, and I also have that with movies. Every game or movie I've ever bought is sitting on my shelf, only having been watched/played once (or occasionally twice) no matter how good they were. Though multiplayer games like Counterstrike, UT, Warcraft III, can keep my attention much longer when good.

"You know what happens to schoolgirls in Japanese cartoons? Hmm, tentacles!"
#17 by Matthew Gallant
2003-08-25 18:16:16
http://www.truemeaningoflife.com
#8 Caryn
I like to go back and start and grow new civilizations on new maps, and then the moment someone declares war on me I scrap it and start over.

I used to be that way, but then I improved my long-term strategy and now I usually have a nice enough army that a declaration of war is an opportunity to get bigger. Once the rivals have Mech Inf., though, it becomes very tedious and my giant civilization gets war weary very fast. I eventually have to switch to communism to keep cities from falling into CD, even with police stations and Women's Suffrage and all bonus resources, and then my production is so crippled I start to lose money and fall behind on science.

I wish the AI would automatically fix CD before it happens on the next turn, even if it means starvation. Better AI is what's going to move the Civ series forward. I'd love to be able to issue some natural language orders and just watch. The whole micromanagement aspect in the late game is brutal.

But I try not to play to much, because I'll play all night. And the next day I'll be doing my impressions of the various units' "level up" yells whenever I make a minor, non-Civ related accomplishment.

"All I've ever wanted to be is a monkey of moderate intelligence that wears a suit. That's why I'm transferring to business school!"
#18 by Hugin
2003-08-25 18:24:44
lmccain@nber.org
Alpha Centauri, Total Annihilation, Wipeout XL.
#19 by Gunp01nt
2003-08-25 18:49:39
supersimon33@hotmail.com
hugin:
Total Annihilation


a couple of people played that at the LAN I was on this weekend. made me wish i'd brought my cd's (original!) to join in...

"You know what happens to schoolgirls in Japanese cartoons? Hmm, tentacles!"
#20 by Darkseid-D
2003-08-25 19:04:31
rogerboal@hotmail.com
Wonder whatever happend to Tim Simeon / Bomb the Bass, they released 'white bug powder dust' a few years back (was that with Zach De LaRocha formerly of Rage against the machine on 'vocals') and then ... .nothing...

Or am I getting confused with a Chemical Brothers remix ? I DO remember the video had Tim Simeon on a boat in what looked to be the amazon...

Xenon 2 - MEGABLAST's music was corking, wasnt it released as 'into the dragon' ?

*gets all reminisicent of the 16bits.....*, Sensible Soccer, Wizkid, Cannon Fodder, Lemmings, IK+, Ikari Warriors, Ruff N Tumble, Flashback / Another World, Geoff Crammonds F1GP, Stunt Car Racer, Dungeon Master (chaos strikes back), Blasteroids.

Ya know, 2ghz machines and 256mb video cards are all very well, but there are an awful lot of games nowadays that seem to be all eye candy and whizz bang and not an awful lot of -gameplay-. Levels are becoming more and more 'real' and more and more cluttered/distracting, UT2003 did that to me, nice to look at but 'too much', too many shiny things, too many things that pull the eye.  Its great to look at, but it impedes gameplay for me, making the game feel somehow sterile and not as fun as UT was.  Quake whilst many complain about muted browns and `dull` colours, doesnt get in the way graphically in contrast.  Splinter Cell is graphically middle ground, enough detail to convey the world but not all bells and whistles and hooting things, the gameplay is interwoven in the graphics, rather than the graphics sitting on top of the gameplay.  UT2003 was a fun enough game, but its no longer sitting on my HD, quake 3 is still there (and quake 1/2 are zipped up on a holding drive). Eh, thats probably not all that clear, but I prefer gameplay to graphics and I hate when impressive graphics strangle the gameplay.

GhostMaster is currently sucking most of my gaming time (outside of DAOC), it plays kind of like a Sim game but with a dose of Dungeon Keeper and dare I say it 'pokemon', the puzzles are all lateral thinkers and theres a great deal of malicious pleasure to be had in dumping a spider infestation on top of a mortal sitting on the toilet, the police level had me almost cackling with glee as I tortured the poor prisoners who couldnt run away from the ghosts and so went utterly insane. Of course Harriet the spectral bunny is one of my favourites, when put on insane aspect she can latch onto a mortal and float around projecting a ghastly image at other mortals (head spinning backwards, arms bending the wrong way), walked her into a hospital ward doing that and all the patients who were already running around screaming from a 'human torch' (caused by a salamander imp) promptly fainted when the Bad Bunny pulled 'her' head off....

Do not go gently into that good night.
Old age should burn and rage at the close of day.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
#21 by Post-It
2003-08-25 19:08:42
keithlee@speakeasy.net
Wipeout XL! That was a great game! I haven't thought about that in years...wish i still had it around somewhere.

I played Half-Life and Deus Ex again in the past year but I think that was the last time for both of them. A friend of mine still has a functioning NES and we play Super Tecmo Bowl whenever I go over there. It's such a great game. New football games are so damn complicated I don't even want to bother trying to figure out what's going on with them. I like having two buttons and 8 plays. And I walked through the snow 2 miles, uphill to play it too dagnabbit! Y'know the more I think about, I think I might go out and pick up an old NES and some simple MP games like Tecmo Bowl, Contra, Life Force, etc.

Mario Kart 64 still gets played occasionally as well as that is a blast if you have 4 people. Ditto with Fusion Frenzy. Really I guess the games I repeatedly still play tend to be simple multiplayer ones. Easy for people to pick up and play and get the hang of, etc. Great for when people come over and hang out. Single player games tend to get played only once unless they are really, really good.

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#22 by Bailey
2003-08-25 19:13:03
#0

I began playing Jumpgate, the ONLY space sim/RPG around, almost three years ago, and have barely stopped since.

Right. It's the only space sim/RPG out there. And say, Net Devil, the fine creators of Jumpgate, are the only ones to employ the Themis Group in a frantic hope to boost internalized success efficiency, restructure appreciable client satisfaction ratios, and other such meaningful catchphrases that Themis doles out like Mexican candy.

"Jumpgate is the realization of a dream shared by Elite fans everywhere... 'What if every one of those ships were piloted by real people?'... That's what Jumpgate delivers."
- Computer Games, January 2002 Issue

Sounds eerily familiar, McGee!

So, how do you like the game so far? Was it worth the $59.95?
#23 by Warren Marshall
2003-08-25 19:14:07
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Ya know, 2ghz machines and 256mb video cards are all very well, but there are an awful lot of games nowadays that seem to be all eye candy and whizz bang and not an awful lot of -gameplay-.

The hell you say!

Respawn Games
Open your mind, let the beatings begin.
#24 by Matt Perkins
2003-08-25 19:16:54
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
I have a love hate relationship with UO.  I've been back to that game 4 seperate times.  Each I keep thinking I'll be great.  And it is for a couple of days...

Console:
Tricky, NFL2k3, Jetski game on the GC (forget name off hand), Tekken

PC:
Counterstrike, Fallout 2, MC 1 and 2, X-Com, Masters of Magic (if I could get it to run properly anymore), Dungeon Siege, Dungeon Keeper 2, BF and some more I can't think of off hand.

"I'm an extreme programmer. I don't plan anything when I code."- Lord Nekrull
#25 by Shadarr
2003-08-25 19:18:42
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I generally don't enjoy a game much the second time.  I've tried to play Fallout 2 again a couple times and the farthest I've ever gotten is The Den, even with cheating.  I do occasionally play Alpha Centauri, but usually only one game and sometimes I don't even finish that.

I don't think I have ever finished a game of Civ 3.  The late game always sucks the fun out as your civ becomes unmanageable.  I don't understand how something so fundamentally flawed could make it through play-testing.
#26 by Bailey
2003-08-25 19:24:47
Going over my gaming history, most games that I replayed had to involve a serious love affair the first time 'round, or a significantly appealing "customizing" aspect. Entries include Wasteland, Gothic I&II, Hero's Quest (Quest for Glory wtfe) 1-4, Interstate '76 (but not the Nitro Pack or '86), Flashback, Out of This World, Ghost in the Shell...

A lot of good games I still only played through once, simply because of their linearity or exhaustively lengthy game design. I rarely feel a need to play through again to bring my score up or time down, however, never understood that sort of repetition.

So, how do you like the game so far? Was it worth the $59.95?
#27 by Charles
2003-08-25 19:39:22
www.bluh.org
The only games I replay regularly are SNES games.

Shadowrun, Secret of Mana, the FF2 and FF3.  I've played through each of these so many times, I pretty much have them completely memorized. Soul Calibur gets an honorable mention for holding my attention for almost two full years, which included me playing pretty much every day for that entire length of time.

How many it had cost in the amassing, what blood and sorrow, what good ships scuttled on the deep, what brave men walking the plank blindfold, what shot of cannon, what shame and lies and cruelty, perhaps no man alive could tell.
#28 by Shadarr
2003-08-25 19:44:26
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Oh yeah, Shadowrun and Powerball for Genesis.  I don't know if it was something I did or a bug in the ROM, but when I tried to play through SNES Shadowrun I couldn't get out of the first zone.  The guy I was supposed to talk to wasn't there.  I had intended to play through it from the beginning again, following the walkthrough exactly, but never did.
#29 by CheesyPoof
2003-08-25 19:45:54
I like to replay the good games at least once.  I've played DX 4 times to the end.  Probably starts a few more games that I didn't finish.  Still throw GTA3 in the PS2 to drive around an cause mayhem.  That's about it, nothing really old that I still play though.
#30 by BobJustBob
2003-08-25 19:53:42
Re: #0

No.

Voices tell me I'm the shit.
<Whisp> BJB is a troll. <Whisp> Troll I say!
#31 by Leslie Nassar
2003-08-25 19:57:29
http://departmentofinternets.com
i went back to NHL 2001 on the PS2 over the weekend.  fuck you all.

"There are design firms out there that could come up with things we've never thought of," Jobs continued, "things that would make you shit in your pants."
#32 by Shadarr
2003-08-25 19:57:49
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
The game I probably played the most total was Red Alert, not coincidentally the first PC game I owned.  Ever since then I've been more and more burned out on the whole RTS genre, and now hardly play them at all.
#33 by Ergo
2003-08-25 19:58:41
Dungeon Master.

"I keep trying to read your posts, but all the letters keep morphing into "HULAHGUALGHUAALHAGH". Perhaps I can file this as a bug." --Bailey
DVDs
#34 by G-Man
2003-08-25 20:07:44
NetHack (on a PocketPC), Mario Party (2, 3 & 4), and Heroes of Might & Magic 3. I play them with my girlfriend.

I don't tend to replay shooters much: exceptions are Deus Ex, Half-Life, Quake 1 & 2.
#35 by Post-It
2003-08-25 20:11:36
keithlee@speakeasy.net
Yeah, the GTA games do get thrown in every now and then for a spin. Ditto with Shadowrun.

"My brain feels burnt..."

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#36 by Charles
2003-08-25 20:16:42
www.bluh.org
My shadowrun is in my snes, right next to me, sitting on top of my xbox dev kit, and hooked to the tv.

How many it had cost in the amassing, what blood and sorrow, what good ships scuttled on the deep, what brave men walking the plank blindfold, what shot of cannon, what shame and lies and cruelty, perhaps no man alive could tell.
#37 by Ergo
2003-08-25 20:24:02
Nerd.

"I keep trying to read your posts, but all the letters keep morphing into "HULAHGUALGHUAALHAGH". Perhaps I can file this as a bug." --Bailey
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#38 by m0nty
2003-08-25 20:34:00
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
WTF are you talking about? The Internet was built using the proceeds of pr0n distributors.
#39 by Shadarr
2003-08-25 20:36:20
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Wrong thread m0nty.
#40 by m0nty
2003-08-25 20:52:08
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
WTF are you talking about? The Internet was built using the proceeds of people posting in the wrong thread.



PS: Fuck you OC.
#41 by mgns
2003-08-25 20:57:48
Quake 1.

At night on them banks I'd lie awake
And pull her close just to feel each breath she'd take
#42 by Bailey
2003-08-25 20:59:11
m0nty: 0
OpenCrap: 234

And the eternal battle with user-friendly software wages on...

So, how do you like the game so far? Was it worth the $59.95?
#43 by Warren Marshall
2003-08-25 20:59:30
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
#41 mgns
Quake 1.

I've sort of fallen out of love with Quake1.  I used to be able to go back and play it and relive that old magic, but it just doesn't do it for me anymore.  It's too bad too, because I used to love just walking around and looking at the environments - I didn't even need monsters or puzzles to enjoy myself.

Respawn Games
Open your mind, let the beatings begin.
#44 by "DogBreath"
2003-08-25 21:02:47
painfulanalwarts@aol.com www.barbie.com
I must have spent the equivalent of the gross national product of Liberia in quarters on Asteroids when I was in high school, and whenever I'm surfing and I see a free version of it I'll always spend a few minutes playing it. But anyone who still plays Pac Man is a homosexual.
#45 by snowcrash-22
2003-08-25 21:11:23
snowcrash22@excite.com
I still play Ms. PacMan.  Stud.
#46 by Squeaky
2003-08-25 21:18:27
#8 Caryn
I tend to love going back to Civ III. Once I actually played a whole game all the way through, I find I like to go back and start and grow new civilizations on new maps, and then the moment someone declares war on me I scrap it and start over.

You can actually get other civs to declare war on you? How? No amount of diplomatic shitfuckery has ever made another civ declare war on me.


On Topic: I just reinstalled the original Baldur's Gate. Good god, I wish I hadn't. It has forever sullied my fond memory of that game.

I also just finished TIE Fighter again. I love that game.

I'm a closet metrosexual.
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#47 by Matthew Gallant
2003-08-25 21:21:52
http://www.truemeaningoflife.com
#46 Squeaky
You can actually get other civs to declare war on you? How? No amount of diplomatic shitfuckery has ever made another civ declare war on me.

Try playing a difficulty level higher than Chieftan!

"All I've ever wanted to be is a monkey of moderate intelligence that wears a suit. That's why I'm transferring to business school!"
#48 by Foodbunny
2003-08-25 21:22:02
foodbunny@attbi.com http://www.foodbunny.com
Princess Maker 2.  The cure to all ills.

#49 by Caryn
2003-08-25 21:24:23
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
Other civs declare war on me all the time. I must look like a total pushover or something, because they won't just leave me alone to play in my sandbox.

He said, "child, you've got a long road" - and I said, "good, 'cause I need to be forgiven."
#50 by mrbloo
2003-08-25 21:27:55
mrbloo2000@hotmail.com
I think they can tell how many military units you have.  Quantity is good, even if they're all unupgraded spearmen!

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