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Are ye a goodie or a baddie?
December 10th 2002, 12:36 CET by deadlock

One of the things that happened in the wake of the release of Grand Theft Auto 3 was that people inevitably got round to talking about what would make the game even more fun. Some said more realism (ie, cops that don't forget about you just cos you've changed the colour of your car), some said more weapons, some wanted better graphics and some just asked for more vehicles. But most people were in agreement that some kind of multiplayer portion was an absolute must. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City addressed most of these points to some degree and with varying levels of success (it actually managed to introduce problems of it's own that weren't present in GTA3), but the multiplayer option was still missing. Not surprising, given that it took just one year to produce.

There's been tons of space in various forums and discussion sites (including PC) given over to fantasising about multiplayer in future iterations of GTA, so I'm not going to discuss it here. Instead, what I want to explore is what you would like to see added to the games to flesh out the single-player experience.

For my part, I'd love to see Rockstar explore the other side of the Law and Crime divide, or maybe give the player the option to choose what kind of role he/she wishes to play; maybe from the outset, the player's actions in the game world determine what kind of missions come their way and, ultimately, what path they go down. I know it would be a lot of work, but look at how much they crammed into Vice City in the space of a year.
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#1 by m0nty
2002-12-10 12:46:46
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I'd like someone to send me an uncensored version of GTA3, pls kthx bye.
#2 by Duality
2002-12-10 12:54:48
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Pirate it like everyone else in the world Redbeard!

I actually was under the impression that you were the side of law in VC, playing an undercover cop.  Obviously from playing it, that's not the case.  But I really would like to see a GTA game from the perspective of a cop's perspective.
#3 by jjohnsen
2002-12-10 14:15:02
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Are you a real cop, or a tough-as-nails cop who's wife is dead so you are killing anyone you wish?  A real cop could get boring fast.

I am trying to catch up to Ergo's Dvd collection.
#4 by LPMiller
2002-12-10 14:39:08
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Yeah, you need to be a Charles Bronsen Death Wish type cop.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#5 by Dethstryk
2002-12-10 14:43:59
jemartin@tcainternet.com
Monty, if you email me I think we can work something out and you can get my GTA3.

Any faith I had in humanity has taken a train to Monte Carlo and spent the last of my savings on roulette.
#6 by Sgt Hulka
2002-12-10 14:52:15
I really would like to see a GTA game from a prostitutes perspective.

8 more days....

BURIAL PLOT - Premium Malt Beverage - Pour one for your homies..
#7 by LPMiller
2002-12-10 14:53:25
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
till what?

I believe I can fly......urk.
#8 by deadlock
2002-12-10 14:54:07
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Off-topic in the first post. Is this a record?

Duality:

I'd like to see them do that as well. I think it would be a great challenge for Rockstar because having the player play the part of a cop imposes limitations on them that aren't there when they play as a criminal. For example, if the player's character is a cop, he can't just kill innocents more or less unchecked.

there's stains on the carpet and crap on the pavement
----
glue
#9 by Sgt Hulka
2002-12-10 14:57:44
till what?

The Two Towers

BURIAL PLOT - Premium Malt Beverage - Pour one for your homies..
#10 by jjohnsen
2002-12-10 15:16:07
http://www.johnsenclan.com
he can't just kill innocents more or less unchecked.

A cop couldn't kill anyone unchecked, unless they don't speak English.  Then you can adopt the shoot first, ask questions later.

I am trying to catch up to Ergo's Dvd collection.
#11 by m0nty
2002-12-10 15:19:55
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Dethstryk, I'll warn you, the international shipping fees are steep, and I have no way to reimburse you.
#12 by Jamiekin
2002-12-10 15:21:31
Monty
I'd like someone to send me an uncensored version of GTA3, pls kthx bye.

Change your computer system's regional zone from Australia to USA or something else to see some prostitute banging + killing action if you're playing the PC version..

I have a crocodile down my pants.
#13 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 15:24:35
nView 2 and Transparency under 98SE ??

Can someone explain why Transparency is greyed out in nView2 under Win98SE ?

I simply do not belive it can not be achived technologically under this OS. Under XP it has it built in so why have it there (nView2) if not for older OS's ???

Or am I simply missing something ?

This is on a desktop PC with DirectX 8.1b, GeForce4 TI4600 with Detonator 40.72 drivers.

Thanks..

Ng out.....
#14 by deadlock
2002-12-10 15:28:18
http://www.deadlocked.org/
jjohnsen:
A cop couldn't kill anyone unchecked, unless they don't speak English.

Yeah, that's a bit more accurate. That just extends the limitation and presents another problem for Rockstar/whoever to try to build a fun game around. I suppose they could use the same system that they use at the moment; you'll get away with 'accidentally' killing two/three people and then some kind of action is taken by the game. Maybe internal affairs start chasing you or something.

there's stains on the carpet and crap on the pavement
----
glue
#15 by deadlock
2002-12-10 15:29:24
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Ng Yo:

Are you talking about transparency/alpha-blending within Windows applications or within a game?

there's stains on the carpet and crap on the pavement
----
glue
#16 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 15:33:19
#12 by Jamiekin
2002-12-10 15:21:31
 
Change your computer system's regional zone from Australia to USA or something else to see some prostitute banging + killing action if you're playing the PC version..


Is this a wind up ? I was under the direct impression that they actualy REMOVED the necesary files.

Can you give an example of such an instance?
Ie:

Level 2, Joe's bar - see naked lady dance in US version
Level 2, Joe's bar - see no lady in AU version

and as atest i could change my region and se BOTH versions..

Ng out.....
#17 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 15:38:17
deadlock

yes...

!!
i don't normaly use nview but i saw that this version ads support for transparency.
WinXP has that built-in, so since nview added it i assume it's for older OS's ????

but under 98se the transparency option under effects tab is greyed out.

so it's either not for 98se OR something else....

Ng out.....
#18 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 15:40:01
ah.... sorry.
a program, even just internet explorer, no NOT a game!!!!

Ng out.....
#19 by Warren Marshall
2002-12-10 15:40:49
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
WinXP has that built-in, so since nview added it i assume it's for older OS's ????

Microsoft added that ability for Win2000 and up.  Win9x can't do it.

Put on your two step shoes, lose the blues and dance like it's year zero.
#20 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 15:44:38
see here:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/dr.ms/image2.jpg

Ng out.....
#21 by Warren Marshall
2002-12-10 15:46:21
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Which part of my post was confusing?

Put on your two step shoes, lose the blues and dance like it's year zero.
#22 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 15:51:14
i see... warren

i doubt it has ANYTHING to do with the kernel or simnilar no ??
i would bet ANYTHING i have that it CAN be done under 98se. (technologically that is)
isn't it the video card/drivers that make it happen ?

in reg:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\NVIDIA Corporation\Global\nView\WindowManagement
there's an entry "dissable transparency" and is 0 (off) i make it 1 but it keeps getting reset!! cunts!!

i'll go to windowZ tip sites later see what they have...

i wonder...
i MAY be wrong...

Ng out.....
#23 by Warren Marshall
2002-12-10 15:55:41
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
*quietly weeping*

Put on your two step shoes, lose the blues and dance like it's year zero.
#24 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 15:58:20
talisman makes win98 have the new fancy startbar/menu etc...
it's only a shell add-on but it's not xp  exclusive. i'm not mixing transparency in that just pointing out it can be done. also one touch icons on the desktop and all that....

and if it can not be done with nview it's almost 100% because they do not want to allow the user.
they want controll!!!!

Ng out.....
#25 by deadlock
2002-12-10 16:00:19
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Ng Yo:

It's probably not part of the actual kernel, but I'm willing to bet that it is part of whatever dll is responsible for creating and displaying controls. The functionality simply doesn't exist in Windows 98. None of the APIs have the Alpha-blend funtions.

there's stains on the carpet and crap on the pavement
----
glue
#26 by deadlock
2002-12-10 16:03:23
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Ng Yo:
talisman makes win98 have the new fancy startbar/menu etc...
it's only a shell add-on but it's not xp  exclusive. i'm not mixing transparency in that just pointing out it can be done. also one touch icons on the desktop and all that....

and if it can not be done with nview it's almost 100% because they do not want to allow the user.
they want controll!!!!

All Talisman is doing is creating a standard, blank Windows control/gismo or whatever you want to call it and drawing it's own stuff on top of it. I've achieved the same results with Visual Basic, it's not hard to do, but it doesn't changing the capabilities of the underlying API.

Single-click icons are a standard part of Windows 98 (and Windows 95 with Internet Explorer 4 active desktop).

there's stains on the carpet and crap on the pavement
----
glue
#27 by m0nty
2002-12-10 16:11:00
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I bow to Ng Yo's superior hijack-fu.
#28 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 16:19:04
#27 by m0nty
2002-12-10 16:11:00
  
I bow to Ng Yo's superior hijack-fu.


I bow before you.

i have flash 6, i think my system needs a clean.. check something 4 me plz.
go to my page and see if you can see my menu on the left side.

http://www.users.bigpond.com/dr.ms/index.html

i can no longer see it under 3 browsers but is ok under frontpage..
thanks mont..
then report back here.. pronto...

Ng out.....
#29 by deadlock
2002-12-10 16:19:13
http://www.deadlocked.org/
I'm easily led m0nty. Though as the writer of this topic, I should probably be more inclined to stay on-topic than the rest of you.

there's stains on the carpet and crap on the pavement
----
glue
#30 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 16:24:10
is what "Jamiekin" said true or just hype/myth
i know some games can have different outcomes on such setting changes but could THIS be so easy ??

Ng out.....
#31 by Jamiekin
2002-12-10 16:30:39
Is this a wind up ? I was under the direct impression that they actualy REMOVED the necesary files.

Can you give an example of such an instance?
Ie:

Level 2, Joe's bar - see naked lady dance in US version
Level 2, Joe's bar - see no lady in AU version


Changing your system region settings will let you see prostitute banging in PC GTA3.. that's all I said. :).. I said nuttin about naked ladies!! I don't think there are any naked ladies dance in GTA3 come to think of it.

I have a crocodile down my pants.
#32 by deadlock
2002-12-10 16:35:07
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Yeah, what the fuck is Joe's bar?

there's stains on the carpet and crap on the pavement
----
glue
#33 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 16:39:30
tsk tsk.. that was JUST an example.....

i heard that you could bash/kill those fucking whores in the non AU version...

in fact what WAS removed from the AU game. ???
anyone have the hard facts ? does the OOFALC have a site with what they have removed from games as they have movies ?
because the PS2 version came.... sold mucho copies got recalled... got cut and sold again.. i saw the "banned" version for $150...


where did you get this info from ? ar you in AU ? have YOU *SEEN* this for yourself ?

Ng out.....
#34 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 16:46:44
whan i say i "saw" the banned version i mean the box not the actuall gameplay.

pS: all OZ'ers here... (AU men)

i was informed that because of those afros in D.C. shooting them people with the rifle, once again the AU version of vice city will have the rifle removed ? can anyone confirm this ?

i wonder how much influence natasha stedjespoia(?) (whore) has in banning/censoring games.... i mean she is a man hater lesbo after all....

Ng out.....
#35 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 16:51:26
#103 by Bailey
2002-12-09 09:12:13
 
What does that have to do with Black Tiger?


so you like it too ???
i LOVE it!!!

see my scores...

 http://www.users.bigpond.com/dr.ms/blacktigerhighscores.gif

from MAME rom...
i'm in the top ten in the WORLD!!! no cheating no nuthin... have recorded game...
plus i am always willing to demonstrate LIVE play!!! i can make it to end with 1 life on hardest setting (including japanese version - which is harder then all others) and THEN use all other lifes to fatten score, then use last life to win game and end it...

do you MAME ???

Ng out.....
#36 by m0nty
2002-12-10 16:51:42
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Ease up there Ng (or perhaps I should just say Yo?). It wasn't Tash's fault, blame that evil little dwarf from Tasmania, Brian Harradine.
#37 by Hugin
2002-12-10 16:52:14
lmccain@nber.org
To actually post on topic:

I guess playing the other side could be interesting.  GTA: Criminal Intent.  GTA: Special Victims Unit.  GTA: Miami (oh wait, they already made that).....


Hm...
#38 by Duality
2002-12-10 16:54:07
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
A cop couldn't kill anyone unchecked...

Eh you can't really do that in GTA3 / VC, either.  Sure, you can knock a few people off before the cops start hunting on you, but given enough bodies you'll get chased down.  And in VC, it happens that much more quickly if you kill people with a cop nearby (can't remember if the same happened in 3).

I could see the character being a vigilante or hollywood cop ... the kind that have no hesitation in taking someone's vehicle and eventually smashing it up in a car chase.  I mean, wouldn't it be boring otherwise?  Though I think there's a market for a highway patrol game ...

"Woah ... CHiPs!"
#39 by m0nty
2002-12-10 16:55:30
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Yo, Ng: I love your site, especially the FAQ where one questions contains a long diatribe about Microsoft, then in the next breath you say you want Age of Mythology and Dungeon Siege.
#40 by Jamiekin
2002-12-10 16:59:47
i heard that you could bash/kill those fucking whores in the non AU version...

in fact what WAS removed from the AU game. ???

where did you get this info from ? ar you in AU ? have YOU *SEEN* this for yourself ?


Yes, I am from Australia. I'm not sure if it was removed entirely, more like disabled.. I've seen it for myself, yes..

I have a crocodile down my pants.
#41 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 17:00:28
ATTENTION ALL:

can someone help me ?

i am attempting to locate a movie.

it's fairly new 1997-????
it's a teen comedy spoof but is NOT: scary movie, not another teen movie, looser, american pie 1 or 2.

it has a toilet scene, where 3-4 boys are in a cubicle in a female toilet. left of hers. she is sitting on the bowl making caca when she does prutt.... one of the boys says:"wow, i never heard a girl drop her guts before".. then they colapse in on her side...

what movie was it from ???

thanks...

Ng out.....
#42 by Jamiekin
2002-12-10 17:04:05
nView 2 and Transparency under 98SE, Black Tiger, Movie name... 3 hijack attempts on the one page... this must be a record. :)

I have a crocodile down my pants.
#43 by Warren Marshall
2002-12-10 17:06:42
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
what movie was it from ???

A bad one?

Put on your two step shoes, lose the blues and dance like it's year zero.
#44 by Sgt Hulka
2002-12-10 17:10:03
it has a toilet scene, where 3-4 boys are in a cubicle in a female toilet. left of hers. she is sitting on the bowl making caca when she does prutt.... one of the boys says:"wow, i never heard a girl drop her guts before".. then they colapse in on her side...


I think that was from DUDE WHERE'S MY CAR, but I'm not 100%.

BURIAL PLOT - Premium Malt Beverage - Pour one for your homies..
#45 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 17:12:35
#39 by m0nty
2002-12-10 16:55:30
  
Yo, Ng: I love your site, especially the FAQ where one questions contains a long diatribe about Microsoft, then in the next breath you say you want Age of Mythology and Dungeon Siege.

i have BOTH, i am looking forward to the expansions.. but more important microsoft ONLY distributes them, gas powered games and ensamble made them not M$. i don't care if the devil delivers them to me, i make Dungeon Siege G.O.T.Y. and announce Chris designer of great significance. he's ace in my books.

diatribe=bitter violent critisism/lengthy invective

are you sure that's what it IS??? but more important do you concur ???

and the site is almost barren... for almost 2 years i have done jack on it... i will hovever restart soon.....

Ng out.....
#46 by m0nty
2002-12-10 17:12:54
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
It's the Australian invasion!
#47 by Matt Davis
2002-12-10 17:14:09
http://looroll.com
Does this make m0nty the new Andy now?

DJ Mauve is back.
#48 by "fyrewolf"
2002-12-10 17:17:08
Windows 98 can do Alphablending.
#49 by Duality
2002-12-10 17:17:18
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Sounds more like a moment from Porky's  ...
#50 by Ng Yo
2002-12-10 17:21:02
warren... i can not remember , that's why i am looking.. but that sentence is verbatim (or 99%)
a bad one ? as bad as teen spoofs/movies go...

hulka, nah it's not that as i watched it not long ago and still remeber it.

Ng out.....
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