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The Greatest Game No One Played
December 8th 2002, 02:15 CET by Hugin

Yeah, I'm totally riding the coattails of Monty's topic. Everyone knows that handful of classic beloved games, and everyone knows the high-profile blockbusters with big marketing pushes and word of mouth behind them.  But what about sleepers?  Forgotten gems?  Guilty pleasures? Talk about some game that you loved that never got the exposure it deserved.  Or a game you know was bad, but had some element, some feature that made you like it anyway.  Or near misses that almost had the stuff. Or old game ideas that could really be interesting with the graphics and processing firepower available nowadays, that seem to be laying fallow.
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#1 by Post-It
2002-12-08 02:18:17
keithlee@speakeasy.net
My guilty pleasures are: Myst (& particularly realMyst) and Riven. I played and enjoyed both.

The best game that nowhere near enough people have played is Anachranox. I know I am preaching to the choir for alot of you but, damn, that was a great game. Oh, and the SNES Shadowrun. Such a sweet, sweet game.

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#2 by Caryn
2002-12-08 02:19:40
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
Sacrifice!

I loved that game, and yet no one else I know seemed to share my enthusiasm for it. To this day it's one of my top three favorite games of all time. I thought the art alone made the game one of the most gorgeous games I'd ever looked at. It's a Shiny game and it seems like I'm always impressed by their art.

I loved the "down on the ground" viewpoint of the game -- it was very Battlezone-like. As an RTS it did make it more challenging, but I thought that the developers did a good job overcoming that.

The music, the art, the atmosphere, the story, I thought it was all just incredible. I lobbied hard to get that game considered for some kind of "of the Year" award at the time, I remember.

"It's not stupid! It's advanced!"
#3 by Bezzy
2002-12-08 02:19:56
painberry@hotmail.com http://www.antifactory.org
Everyone is ignoring Mutant Storm! Don't ignore Mutant Storm! Play Mutant Storm!

My only problem with Bezzy is, truly and honestly, about one third of his longer, passionate posts make no sense to me.  I don't necessarily agree or disagree, I just literally can't parse them.  - Hugin
#4 by yotsuya
2002-12-08 02:30:53
I know the flame floodgates are gonna open, but I really enjoyed Daikatana.

"He's not a moron at all, he's a friend. My personal relations with the president are extremely good."
#5 by Desiato
2002-12-08 02:34:04
desiato_hotblack@hotmail.com http://www.spew2.com/
I doubt anyone played POD by Ubisoft.

But it was fun to play, and I got to meet some of the developers as well. Even got a car into the game later as part of an official contest they had at one time.

Just let me kill things online, that is all I ask.
#6 by ProStyle
2002-12-08 02:45:27
http://prostyle.deviantart.com
Sacrifice was really great, but the multiplayer component was quite unbalanced imo. Sure the high level spells were amazingly cool and the resource collection method of harvesting the souls of your fallen enemies was kind of interesting but on the other side of that coin it made it incredibly hard to bounce back after the loss of most combat situations. It is too bad that it was so overlooked though, I'm sure if it received the attention it deserved it would have been more likely to have a much longer lifespan brought about by balance/tweaking patches. I don't think many innovative titles have come about that contain that much atmosphere and amazing visuals while retaining some sanity in basic design to make for a fun and interesting experience so this is definately the one that first came to mind after reading the topic.

I'm like a quote out of context...
#7 by crash
2002-12-08 02:47:53
Ground Control.

By this time tomorrow we can be doing BODY SHOTS off HOOKERS in some MEXICAN HELLHOLE
#8 by MCorleone
2002-12-08 02:56:32
MechCommander 1.  Awesome game, best RTS ever.

Imagine the world in a bottle.  We take that bottle, smash it, and open your throat with it.  I warn you, we are murderous - COIL
#9 by LPMiller
2002-12-08 02:56:45
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Soulbringer.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#10 by Funkdrunk
2002-12-08 02:56:46
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
I'm the most "hardcore" of all my friends.  And in many ways, I introduce them to a large amount of the games that they've played.  But noone wanted to play Terra Nova.  I loved that game, it was one of the few games that I played through to the end, and then immediately restarted.  When I heard that it was a sales failure, I was very disappointed.  I couldn't understand how such a great game was overlooked by everyone.

A second example was Incubation.  After completing X-COM: Terror from the Deep, I was looking for some more turned based squad combat.  And not seeing any new X-COMs coming, I found Incubation.  And it had 3d acceleration as well, it was great.  But since none of my friends could get into X-Com, none were interested in Incubation.  A shame, because in many ways it was equal to or better than X-Com.

One last game.  I loved Magic and Mayhem.  Nobody else did.  Some friends tried it, didn't like it.  Me, I played it until somewhere near the end, sadly, a bug stopped me from completing the map I was on.


Funk

An idealist is one who, on noticing that roses smell better than a cabbage, concludes that it will also make better soup.  ~Henry L. Mencken
#11 by lwf
2002-12-08 03:22:39
Sunset Riders
Puzzle Bobble for Neo Geo

Open 'em wide
#12 by Neo-Reaper
2002-12-08 03:50:18
neoreaper@excite.com http://octobermoon.homeip.net
Everyone is ignoring Mutant Storm! Don't ignore Mutant Storm! Play Mutant Storm!

Mutant Storm gets a big "meh" from me.

"Dream of me... and maybe, just maybe, this nightmare will end."
#13 by Bezzy
2002-12-08 03:53:52
painberry@hotmail.com http://www.antifactory.org
Did you play the demo only?

My only problem with Bezzy is, truly and honestly, about one third of his longer, passionate posts make no sense to me.  I don't necessarily agree or disagree, I just literally can't parse them.  - Hugin
#14 by LesJarvis
2002-12-08 03:58:00
Sin.  I really liked Sin.  Well, after it worked, anyway.  Only game I've ever purchased, returned, and then later purchased again.  I also liked Homeworld a lot, which isn't exactly an underdog I suppose, but it was underplayed and underappreciated.

*gag*
#15 by lwf
2002-12-08 04:01:14
If he did play the demo and think it was "meh", why would he try the full version? Does it feature bonus "meh"?

Open 'em wide
#16 by Duality
2002-12-08 04:02:40
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
I doubt anyone played POD by Ubisoft.

I actually got an OEM copy with my Pentium 166 as an MMX-featured game.  It looked great for the time, but I was extremely disappointed by the horrid controls.

I'm fortunate that I've never had a game I can feel guilty about owning or playing.

Except maybe Cobra Triangle for the NES.
#17 by Greg
2002-12-08 04:07:28
lwf:

Puzzle Bobble

That game might not be as unknown or underrated as you think. The NA version of Puzzle Bobble is known as Bust-A-Move, and there are numerous clones, like Snood and one of the PopCap games.

#18 by Greg
2002-12-08 04:08:03
Oh, and Bust-A-Move is available for almost every platform.

#19 by Bezzy
2002-12-08 04:20:43
painberry@hotmail.com http://www.antifactory.org
lwf

If he did play the demo and think it was "meh", why would he try the full version? Does it feature bonus "meh"?

I was just wondering. I know that the first demo was an incredibly bad representation of the game. Also helps if you have a dual analogue controller, but it's not totally necessary to have one.

My only problem with Bezzy is, truly and honestly, about one third of his longer, passionate posts make no sense to me.  I don't necessarily agree or disagree, I just literally can't parse them.  - Hugin
#20 by jjohnsen
2002-12-08 04:23:42
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I also liked Homeworld a lot, which isn't exactly an underdog I suppose, but it was underplayed and underappreciated.


I am probably looking forward to Homeworld 2 more than any other game.

I am trying to catch up to Ergo's Dvd collection.
#21 by lwf
2002-12-08 04:29:31
Homeworld was true love, with a steep learning curve.

Open 'em wide
#22 by CheesyPoof
2002-12-08 04:42:46
Arcanum.  I'll need to think about this, there are more I'm sure.
#23 by Neo-Reaper
2002-12-08 04:54:27
neoreaper@excite.com http://octobermoon.homeip.net
Ya, it was the demo that I played.  I don't really think the full version would change my opinion, as the gameplay itself completely failed to grab my attention.  I want another Smash TV.

"Dream of me... and maybe, just maybe, this nightmare will end."
#24 by Lobo
2002-12-08 04:58:17
Lately I've spent a lot of time playing Pontifex II.  That's the sort of game that has absolutely no chance on the retail market.  It was very much worth my $35.
#25 by Charles
2002-12-08 04:58:58
www.bluh.org
Freespace 2.  Apparently it sold almost nothing.  Such a shame, it's the greatest space combat sim ever made.  Intel owns the IP, and they are tanking.  Volition seems content to make bad PS2 games.  It makes me sad.

#26 by Mank
2002-12-08 05:00:44
Legend of the Dragoon for the PS. Loved the melee system in that game.

"One of the principal points about the sin stupidity is that it flatters the sinner."
#27 by Charles
2002-12-08 05:01:09
www.bluh.org
Actually, add Freespace to that as well.  A lot of people didn't even bother with Freespace because it had the Descent name.

#28 by Charles
2002-12-08 05:01:56
www.bluh.org
What I loved about Legend of Dragoon was the fact that during the final FMV of the game, the sound mixing was so bad that you couldn't understand what any of the voice actors said!  Still not sure exactly what happened...

#29 by Charles
2002-12-08 05:05:22
www.bluh.org
The Longest Journey was a great game.  Shame that at some point the entire game just quit running properly for me and I couldn't finish it.  I really liked what I managed to play of it though.

#30 by Bailey
2002-12-08 05:08:13
Gothic, Aquanox, and I'll give due props to Terra Nova any day.

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#31 by Bailey
2002-12-08 05:08:37
Longest Journey? We've been over this. DIE.

Dec 5 1933 - Fourteen years of prohibition end when Utah ratifies the 21st amendment. Let the good times roll.
#32 by m0nty
2002-12-08 05:20:53
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I agree completely with Charles in #29.
#33 by Ryslin
2002-12-08 05:26:44
(waves piece of paper)
Oddly enough my guilty pleasure was being introduced to Quake2 online play and finding out I LOVE IT.
This has lead me down the road of online gaming.

Game I love that has a cult following.. Transport Tycoon Deluxe!!!!!

Trainz also has a large cult following and is a MUCH better program than MSTS ,but then I have often tried to talk about "other types" of gaming here and I won't stop, you can't make me , nah nah so on.

I also love Theme Hospital that game is kooky. I would love a "modernized" version of that. I found that game long after the hay-day of bullfrog and regret that I didn't get into PC gaming earlier.

Console- I love the Breath of Fire series , thou you can throw out BoF3 for the most part. IF someone comes out with another in the series then that is the console I will be forced to buy.

NO!
#34 by Charles
2002-12-08 05:37:32
www.bluh.org
I've got a good one for the console.  Shadow of Destiny on the PS2.  Traditional adventure game for the most part, which is nearly unheard of on console.  Most people didn't like the slow pacing and lack of combat, but I thought it was really interesting.  Told a good story too.

#35 by chris
2002-12-08 05:38:49
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
SSI's "Dark Sun: The Shattered Lands" is one of the greatest RPGs ever made. And while I've run into people who've played it, it's a pretty rare occurence.

-chris
#36 by Morn
2002-12-08 05:47:17
morn@planetcrap.com http://hmans.net
ADOM.

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#37 by Morn
2002-12-08 05:47:41
morn@planetcrap.com http://hmans.net
Oh. And Crimsonland.

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#38 by Morn
2002-12-08 05:47:55
morn@planetcrap.com http://hmans.net
STAR MONKEY.

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#39 by Hugin
2002-12-08 05:52:41
lmccain@nber.org
I wanted to like Sacrifice so badly!  It was pretty, and the music was cool, and it seemed chock full of style and ideas.  But I just didn't find the gameplay fun, it's one of the few games where I almost felt there was something wrong with me for not liking it.  For the most part, my two beefs with the game were that while you main central avatar person was really cool looking, a lot of the other units looked kind of lame.  And I hated much of the interface. And, the vaguely defined and logically indefensible lack of "fun" as mentioned above.  But I'd play a revamped Sacrifice 2 in a second (not that that will happen, sadly).


Um...Mechcommander 1 is criminally underrated.  It's the Battletech game I always wanted ever since starting to play the original hex map and miniatures tabletop game. The opening movie for it was great too. Number 2 isn't quite as good, IMO, but still good.

There's a point and click puzzle title (a la Myst) called Obsidian that contains, I kid you not, my single favorite sequence/task in all of videogaming, ever. (If anyone actually played the thing, I'm referring to the mechanical spider puzzle in the robot cathedral). And in general it had tons of cockeyed humor and fun ideas, great stuff.

Parasite Eve 1 for Playstation is badly underrated in the whole survival horror genre.

And last but not least, a wacky Artdink game (I think all they make are wacky games) called Carnage Heart for PS.  Mecha combat game where you built the mechs, then programmed their behavior with this whole symbolic register and flowchart based system, and then turned them loose on missions.  I loved setting up those programming diagrams, it was so funny seeing a flaw in your logic make your mechs do stupid stuff, and it was so satisfying watching a good idea kick ass without you lifting a finger in battle.
#40 by LesJarvis
2002-12-08 06:01:54
Hugin

Carnage Heart!  I had almost completely forgotten about that game.  That game was tits!

*gag*
#41 by Charles
2002-12-08 06:02:54
www.bluh.org
I have played Dark Sun: The Shattered Lands.  I liked it a lot.  On that same topic, not many people played Menzoberranzan, or Strahd's Possession, or any of those games.  I loved them all.

People who don't like Parasite Eve are missing out.  Everything about that game was great.  Story, dialog, presentation, sound, music.

#42 by m0nty
2002-12-08 06:08:24
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Hounded 2 for the Commodore 64. That is all.
#43 by m0og0ogaipan
2002-12-08 06:22:06
I was going to say Riana Rouge but I never played the game. Used quicktime to watch all the movies :P I thought Toonstruck was a great game.

Mufasa Mufasa Mufasa
#44 by chris
2002-12-08 06:25:41
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
I think I'll reinstall Sin.

-chris
#45 by LesJarvis
2002-12-08 06:34:27
Chris

I would genereally recommend against it.  While I did enjoy Sin in '99, I recently reinstalled it and tried to play.  It is a game better remembered, as it hasn't help up near as well something like Half-Life.  Just a warning.  As always, your milage may vary.

*gag*
#46 by Morn
2002-12-08 06:36:28
morn@planetcrap.com http://hmans.net
Sin was so much more fun than Half-Life. IMO.

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#47 by Morn
2002-12-08 06:36:37
morn@planetcrap.com http://hmans.net
Happy birthday, Gabe!

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#48 by yotsuya
2002-12-08 07:02:06
I'm starting a "Give Daikatana Another Chance" online petition! Who's with me???

"He's not a moron at all, he's a friend. My personal relations with the president are extremely good."
#49 by Desiato
2002-12-08 07:05:58
desiato_hotblack@hotmail.com http://www.spew2.com/
yotusya - you're better off supporting his recent effort, monkeystone games I believe.


So go buy a PDA and play!

Just let me kill things online, that is all I ask.
#50 by Owen-san
2002-12-08 07:10:13
ojacobson@3sygma.com http://www.lionsanctuary.net
Carnage Heart was the best thing since sliced bread.  Well, except for the truly obscene number of memory blocks a save used. (A full third of a blank card.  Egh.)
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