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BMX XXX Revisited... or is it?
November 6th 2002, 20:00 CET by Charles

Acclaimed has announced the release date for the PS2 version of BMX XXX.  Except it isn't just an announcement of the release date.  Here's the first paragraph (emphasis by me):

GLEN COVE, N.Y.--Nov. 4, 2002--The official countdown for the launch of this year's most talked about video games has begun, as AKA Acclaim, a division of Acclaim Entertainment, Inc. (NASDAQ.SC: AKLM), today announced that its eagerly anticipated release, BMX XXX, will launch on November 15 for the PlayStation®2 computer entertainment system. Only this version of the game has been edited to eliminate the topless nudity.


So this whole thing leads me to wonder:  Is Acclaim caving to the pressure they themselves created?  Or was this entire thing planned from the start?  Claim to have topless nudity (thus instantly selling an extra amount of copies, to all the little boys who think 'hey! boobies!'), then when the shit hits the fan, just casually take it out?

Of course, the press release is only for the PS2 version, but I doubt they'll only cut the PS2 version, since the PS2 version is arguably the one that will sell best.   Another question, is will the mainstream media give as much attention to this change as they did to the original controversy?  My guess would be that they wouldn't, since it isn't as good of a news story. This whole thing could end up as a huge clusterfuck for Acclaim in the end.  Potential consumers hear "Our game has boobies," because it's on every mainstream news site and TV show because of the controversy, and decide to buy it.  Acclaim quietly pulls out the nudity so they can actually sell the game at Walmart et al, and when Joe Consumer picks up the game on November 15th, and realizes there is no boobies, he'll probably feel ripped off.  Maybe even go so far as to return it?  I doubt that, but it's still a possibility.

Either way, Acclaim probably wins in the end.  But the real question:  Is George Broussard ("I'm personally going to buy and support this game beacuse I think it's good for our industry.  Diversity and choice is always good.") still going to buy his copy?  

Oh, and Metroid Fusion is a fucking awesome game.
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#1 by TheTrunkDr.
2002-11-06 20:01:02
first!

You can't hug your children with nuclear arms!
#2 by TheTrunkDr.
2002-11-06 20:01:41
I wonder if this was sorta the plan all along, get the hype, then pull the ol' bait and switch.

You can't hug your children with nuclear arms!
#3 by Charles
2002-11-06 20:03:01
www.bluh.org
Echo... echo... echo...

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#4 by Creole Ned
2002-11-06 20:06:58
I'm just glad those wretched ads finally stopped running on Blue's.

"I don't bemoan the great paste" - LPMiller
#5 by Caryn
2002-11-06 20:07:19
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
My completely haggle gaggle armchair analysis is that this was probably planned all along, but we just didn't know about it. Nudity sells, and I suspect they were happy to let the nudity carry the marketing message for the original game (note the press-release saying "the most talked about game" -- they know exactly why it's the most talked about) and then only mention the lack of it in some appropriate place. I'm also curious to know if it will be obvious to the Wal-Mart consumer that the nudity isn't in that version.

"Went to eat my breakfast the next morning, the blues started to walkin' all over my bread..." -- Sonny Boy Williamson, 23 Hours Too Long
#6 by Hugin
2002-11-06 20:10:13
lmccain@nber.org
Why can't we do what we know is right?  Surround the Acclaim offices (if they have multiple buildings, concentrate on the marketing department), board the whole place up tight, stick a funnel in the top, and pour in whatever seems the necessary volume of concrete, gasoline, hydrochloric acid, rabid weasels, sarin gas, tactical nukes, whatever it takes.
#7 by Bailey
2002-11-06 20:10:43
Sequel threads are always worse than original threads.

Chris Crosby. Living the webcomic success story, one day at a time.
#8 by Hugin
2002-11-06 20:11:14
lmccain@nber.org
And yes, I think it was planned all along.
#9 by Charles
2002-11-06 20:11:58
www.bluh.org
Haggle gaggle, I'm an armchair thread critic!

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#10 by jjohnsen
2002-11-06 20:13:19
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Is there a version on a different console that still has the nudity?

I am trying to catch up to Ergo's Dvd collection.
#11 by snowcrash-22
2002-11-06 20:14:28
snowcrash22@excite.com
I Want All the Goddamn Guns Right Goddamn Now





whoops...
#12 by Gunp01nt
2002-11-06 20:14:29
supersimon33@hotmail.com
yes, a VHS version.

"A computer works with ones and zeroes. It's very convenient to know that. Especially when it crashes.
1-0 for the computer."
#13 by Charles
2002-11-06 20:14:47
www.bluh.org
Read the topic.  Understand.  Consider.  Post.

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#14 by TheTrunkDr.
2002-11-06 20:15:09
Chucky, what the hell is that icon? and what happened to the caped crusader??

You can't hug your children with nuclear arms!
#15 by Shadarr
2002-11-06 20:15:37
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
It seems to me that instead of a sub-par BMX game with nudity, they now just have a sub-par BMX game.  Acclaim may be the masters of negative (but free!) publicity, but I still believe that for a game to sell well, it has to be a decent game.
#16 by TheTrunkDr.
2002-11-06 20:16:34
or have nudity!

You can't hug your children with nuclear arms!
#17 by Chunkstyle
2002-11-06 20:16:57
I hope this wasn't planned all along, and really wish Wal-Mart wouldn't carry it anyway.  For spite.
#18 by Charles
2002-11-06 20:17:00
www.bluh.org
Well, it's got all the mechanics of the previous BMX games which (I believe) some people liked.  I'd say the bigger issue is the asstastic graphics.

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#19 by Creole Ned
2002-11-06 20:17:40
What is the worst best-selling game, then? Are all topsellers decent games?

"I don't bemoan the great paste" - LPMiller
#20 by TheTrunkDr.
2002-11-06 20:18:45
the graphics are probably "asstastic" cause they were saving up the polys for the large bouncing boobies.

You can't hug your children with nuclear arms!
#21 by Charles
2002-11-06 20:21:16
www.bluh.org
In other news, CNN talks about the Doom 3 leak!

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#22 by Shadarr
2002-11-06 20:26:59
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
What is the worst best-selling game, then? Are all topsellers decent games?


I think they have to be, to have long-term consistent sales.  You can still buy Half-Life in stores, and Alpha Centauri is a mainstay of the bargain bins and combo-packs.  Say what you will about The Sims or Everquest, but they obviously appeal to a lot of people.

The game that scarred me the most was Tiberian Sun, but I'm not sure it sold well enough to be considered a top seller.
#23 by Stralutia
2002-11-06 20:30:57
stralutia@hotmail.com None
Charles, it is considered bad form to hijack one's own topic.

Reading: American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis
#24 by Charles
2002-11-06 20:32:23
www.bluh.org
If I were hijacking, I'd have done so in post #4.

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#25 by Stralutia
2002-11-06 20:33:57
stralutia@hotmail.com None
As for the topic, with any other company I would assume that the retailer (read: Wal-mart) pressure was so great that the nudity was dropped.  With Acclaim, and their dubious marketing history (i.e THERE IS NO BAD PUBLICITY!!!!!!!) I'm not so certain.

Reading: American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis
#26 by Stralutia
2002-11-06 20:36:58
stralutia@hotmail.com None
A hijacked topic four posts in would likely be a record, but a dubious record.  Like winning an event in the special olympics.

Reading: American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis
#27 by Stralutia
2002-11-06 20:37:41
stralutia@hotmail.com None
Wow, I used the word dubious in two (now three) consecutive posts.  Winnar!

Reading: American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis
#28 by Gunp01nt
2002-11-06 20:45:17
supersimon33@hotmail.com
a dubious winnar, no less.

"A computer works with ones and zeroes. It's very convenient to know that. Especially when it crashes.
1-0 for the computer."
#29 by Stralutia
2002-11-06 20:52:58
stralutia@hotmail.com None
Four, but dubiously enough we can expect this streak to continue.

Reading: American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis
#30 by bago
2002-11-06 20:54:58
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Well, speaking of hijacking, here's an asstastic story about GTA3, the washington "sniper",  and general idocy. Responding to phone tips that video games may have inspired him, they hung up on the "sniper" himself when he actually called. There's so much assininity here  that I can't even begin to respond.

Why don't you study REAL science?
#31 by Gunp01nt
2002-11-06 20:58:35
supersimon33@hotmail.com
wow, that is one dubious article!

"A computer works with ones and zeroes. It's very convenient to know that. Especially when it crashes.
1-0 for the computer."
#32 by Stralutia
2002-11-06 20:58:45
stralutia@hotmail.com None
Posted in IRC hours ago.  You sir are behind on teh times!!!11

But the article does suck.

Reading: American Psycho by Brett Easton Ellis
#33 by bago
2002-11-06 20:59:04
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
I just woke up!

Why don't you study REAL science?
#34 by Gunp01nt
2002-11-06 21:01:38
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Montgomery County detectives have reportedly bought violent video games in a search for any possible motive behind the sniper attacks that left 10 dead and three wounded in the region.


"Are you playing games again?"
"Oh PUH LEEZ honey, I'm working."

"A computer works with ones and zeroes. It's very convenient to know that. Especially when it crashes.
1-0 for the computer."
#35 by Bailey
2002-11-06 21:07:51
Charles

Haggle gaggle, I'm an armchair thread critic!

Kryptonite doesn't work on Lex Luthor, fuckwit.

Chris Crosby. Living the webcomic success story, one day at a time.
#36 by Charles
2002-11-06 21:11:23
www.bluh.org
I can still brain you with it.

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#37 by chris
2002-11-06 21:12:09
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
Heh. Winona guilty. Film at 11.

-chris
#38 by Vers Vlees
2002-11-06 21:13:21
www.versvlees.owns.it
Well let me guess they placed black censor blocks for the kinky parts of the game
#39 by Charles
2002-11-06 21:15:25
www.bluh.org
I like how google news gives you a fun indicator as to what is getting news coverage...

Fed Cuts Interest Rate Half a Point
ABC News - and 185 related »

Jupiter spaceprobe knocked out on final voyage
New Scientist - and 74 related »

Keane to return after McCarthy's exit?
ITV - and 204 related »

Actress Winona Ryder Found Guilty of Shoplifting
Reuters - and 431 related »

Test Vaccine May Protect Against Cancer
Discovery Channel - and 7 related »

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#40 by Your Friend
2002-11-06 21:24:47
Will Winona be showing up on prisonbabes.com?

I never really liked her much, but now that she's a convicted felon, I must say she has a certain appeal!

Time to work the Nutty Charms!
#41 by Your Friend
2002-11-06 21:28:15
Speaking of Google News...

http://news.google.com/news/gnusaleftnav.html


Check out the "Computer Glitch Leaves Media Without Exit Polls" headline and look at the picture next to it... Catherine Bell.

The connection seems to be Election Media Coverage->CBS 'Won' the night, ratings wise->JAG is on CBS->Catherine Bell is on JAG.

But...that's kinda fucked up.

The ghost of L Ron is in the machine!
#42 by Charles
2002-11-06 21:29:54
www.bluh.org
The machine owes you nothing.  

And anyway, maybe the machine just likes Catherine Bell.

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#43 by Your Friend
2002-11-06 21:34:34
Even a machine knows you gotta be a jackass to be a Scientologist.
#44 by Shadarr
2002-11-06 21:56:53
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
the game has been edited to eliminate the topless nudity


Did anyone else find this wording strange?  It implies that non-topless nudity will be left in.  Perhaps they should rename the game "Beaver MX".
#45 by crash
2002-11-06 22:20:05
actually, i read that as, "THE OTHER VERSION HAS BOOBIES."

*shrug*

By this time tomorrow we can be doing BODY SHOTS off HOOKERS in some MEXICAN HELLHOLE
#46 by Your Friend
2002-11-06 22:23:56
[quote
A Mercury Research report, released this week, found that in the third quarter of 2002 Nvidia's market share rose to 58 percent, from 56 percent the previous quarter. ATI lost market share, shrinking from 36 percent in the second quarter to 33 percent in the third, despite selling the highest-performing graphics chip.


Whoops, looks like having the fastest (and most expensive) chip on the block isn't worth all that much when the economy is as slow as it currently is.  Not to mention ATI's going to have to make the painful jump to 0.13 micron itself or suffer quite a bit in the future... and while they are knee deep in that, Nvidia will have its shit together again, riding high on the GeForce brand name.  

Maybe ATI can turn things around by ordering up a couple billion more impressions of the green goo web ad...
#47 by Your Friend
2002-11-06 22:24:20
Damn quote tags.
#48 by Charles
2002-11-06 22:33:35
www.bluh.org
I heard a rumor that the NV30 won't be carrying a GeForce name.  Will be interesting to see what kind of strange name they come up with next.

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#49 by Your Friend
2002-11-06 22:38:46
I've heard back and forth rumors on that.  At first I had heard it won't be a 'GeForce' because it is a significant advance over the previous cards, then I've heard it will be the GF5 because they think the GeForce brand has become too valuable to toss away at this point...  GeForce, nForce, FxForce(??).

Ah well, guess we'll find out for sure soon enough.
#50 by Shadarr
2002-11-06 22:48:47
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I remember hearing that they would be coming up with a new name for the GeForce 3, and again for the 4, so I am sceptical about the 5.

ATI's problem is that although they may have the best graphics chip out there, this only appeals to the most hard-core of FPS gamers.  Strategy gamers like me don't need to shell out $400 for a graphics card, nor do the legions of Sims players or non-gamers.  Meanwhile Nvidia makes a wide range of solid cards with good drivers.  And a good card with crappy drivers that cause incompatibilities with various hardware and software combinations will piss off a lot more people than a solid card with solid drivers that doesn't get as many frames at full detail.
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