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What did they expect?
October 17th 2002, 05:09 CEST by Charles

Okay, so Walmart and other chains won't carry BMX XXX (Yes I got the link from Slashdot, fuck you).  Big surprise right?  

"We're not going to carry any software with any vulgarity or nudity -- we're just not going to do it," Wal-Mart spokesman Tom Williams told Reuters.


No real surprise there.  

"I still believe that we'll get substantially full distribution in the United States," Fischbach [Acclaim's Chief Executive] said. "I don't really think it goes much further than some other video games on the marketplace."


Uhh, is this guy's brain firing on all cylinders?  No, they aren't going to get full distribution.  When the top of the nation's retailers decide they aren't going to carry it, that means substantially less distribution.  Yes it does go much further than other videogames on the market.

Consider:  The game has actual video footage of strippers doing their thing.  Not animated, not 3d.  And it has nothing to do with the core gameplay itself, you just gain points and then use them to see the footage.  So why do these people seem to think that this game can be placed on the shelf next to Mario and other such not-nudity filled games?  They claim to aim for the mature audience, but again, who are they really aiming for?  The 'mature audience' can just walk in to a video store and buy up all the porn they want.  Adolescent male gamers however, cannot.  Yet there aren't any laws or regulations that exist, to this date, that would prevent said adolescent male gamer from buying a game with that kind of content.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those people who believes nudity is the devil and blah blah blah, but what exactly is Acclaim trying to do?  Get the games industry slapped with a bunch of laws that will cut their market by an absurd amount?  It's games like this that will end up with laws saying that mature games can't be sold to 17 and under, and when that happens, it will hurt the industry.  Despite the average age of gamers being pretty high, there are still a large amount of sub-18 gamers.  

I tend to wonder if Acclaim is sacrificing the industry as a whole in order to make a few bucks.
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#1 by lwf
2002-10-17 05:14:47
1st

I'd like to debate whether cannibalism ought to be grounds for leniency in murders since it is less wasteful
#2 by jafd
2002-10-17 05:16:28
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one against the wall.

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#3 by Hugin
2002-10-17 05:17:07
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Acclaim=Idiots.  Hopefully, a sort of marketplace darwinism wil sort them out in the natural course of things.  Or a PC-sponsored Baileytron visit to thier offices.  Either way.
#4 by lwf
2002-10-17 05:21:05
I'd sponsor that visit to the tune of 20 bucks. Acclaim hasn't made anything worth renting let alone buying since the days of snes.

I'd like to debate whether cannibalism ought to be grounds for leniency in murders since it is less wasteful
#5 by BobJustBob
2002-10-17 05:26:07
BMX XXX is good and I will buy it.

Also, my mom asked me about the game today. My mom actually knows the name of an unreleased video game, due to the fact that Wal-Mart refuses to sell it. The mainstream news reports it, and now people everywhere know about the game. I do not doubt that this will directly translate into increased sales.

Also, you're all a bunch of hypocritical whores.

I'm killing myself with cola.
#6 by Matthew Gallant
2002-10-17 05:28:49
http://www.truemeaningoflife.com
Again, I point to Bob's Morrowind icon.

"Is the internet making people less intelligent?"
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#7 by Foodbunny
2002-10-17 05:29:48
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Strip quickly, Outlander, or go away!

It won't have any impact on DNF.  Nothing really does.
#8 by Warren Marshall
2002-10-17 05:30:43
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
I, for one, am glad Walmart told them to kiss off.  I don't like seeing this sort of shit being produced because it takes the industry in a bad direction.  Topless girls riding bmx bikes ... what?  It's stupid and it has no place in an industry where people are trying to be taken seriously.

*grumble*

I can only hope this game bombs so badly nobody else considers doing anything remotely like it ever again.

"You can't kill a man when he's got no hope."
#9 by Charles
2002-10-17 05:35:42
www.bluh.org
I still think that the fallout of this could hurt the industry a fair amount.  I mean, it's pretty well known that parents don't know shit about games as it is.  If they pass legislation saying that mature games cannot be sold to under 18, and after hearing all about this "XXX" game through the media, they'll probably end up making the association that mature game == porn.  Now, we know that isn't true, but the fact is, it'll still hurt sales by a large percentage.

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#10 by Charles
2002-10-17 05:37:11
www.bluh.org
And of course by 'fact' I mean my own rampant speculation.  FUFUFUFUFUFU!

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#11 by Sgt Hulka
2002-10-17 05:39:53
Does Mike Wilson work for Acclaim now?   Things that make you go Hmm....

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#12 by CheesyPoof
2002-10-17 06:00:27
my keyboard i fukered.  I wat to type a (o topi, oheret) pot, but a't do aythig but oud ike a retard.


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#13 by Whisp
2002-10-17 06:13:53
I want to know why this turkey didn't get slapped with an "Adult" rating.

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#14 by Bailey
2002-10-17 06:14:19
Maybe not Mike Wilson, but possibly Billy Wilson?

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#15 by Foodbunny
2002-10-17 06:15:33
foodbunny@attbi.com http://www.foodbunny.com
Maybe they're Duke Nukem style strippers.

It won't have any impact on DNF.  Nothing really does.
#16 by Bailey
2002-10-17 06:17:15
Or Neocron style strippers.

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#17 by Bailey
2002-10-17 06:17:28
Or Dead to Rights style strippers.

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#18 by Bailey
2002-10-17 06:17:35
Or...

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#19 by CheesyPoof
2002-10-17 06:17:35
My keys are unfuckered (freeing me from trying to post in l33t speek).

I don't see gaming going in the the media ghetto that comic books are in.  People have beein playing games for over 20 years now and it is too wide spread in our culture to take a step back.  Like some movies push the boundries of taste, so will games, but I don't see any long lasting detrimental effect.
#20 by Foodbunny
2002-10-17 06:18:44
foodbunny@attbi.com http://www.foodbunny.com
Bailey's knowledge of video game strippers surpasses my own.

It won't have any impact on DNF.  Nothing really does.
#21 by Greg
2002-10-17 06:20:26
Morrowind style strippers?

Dance for me, sera

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#22 by Whisp
2002-10-17 06:20:42
FYI, here's the ESRB rating descriptions:
Mature
Titles rated "Mature (M)" have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. These products may include more intense violence or language than products in the Teen category. In addition, these titles may also include mature sexual themes.

Adults Only
Titles rated "Adults Only (AO)" have content suitable only for adults. These products may include graphic depictions of sex and/or violence. Adults Only products are not intended to be sold or rented to persons under the age of 18.


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#23 by Charles
2002-10-17 06:24:24
www.bluh.org
And yet, BMX XXX only has a Mature rating.

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#24 by Whisp
2002-10-17 06:27:46
Exactly what I didn't understand, Charles.

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#25 by Charles
2002-10-17 06:30:04
www.bluh.org
I'm pretty sure this'll be seen as a complete failure on the ESRB's part, and reason for the lawmakers to step in.

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#26 by Your Friend
2002-10-17 06:30:52
What's wrong with these people?  Porn is a big business, but when people want to see porn, they want real porn, not watered down porn like that in BMX XXX.  For an example of this in the movie world, witness the incredible flop of Showgirls even after months of hype & calculated 'negative press'.

I'd be shocked if BMX XXX doesn't flop just as hard.  They'd have made a lot more money sticking with the Dave Mirra endorsement and just making a fun BMX game.  

Idiots.

Note to Acclaim: GTA3 sold well because it was a fun game, not because of the hookers & violence.  You took the wrong message from it. (FWIW, even Rockstar seems to have taken the wrong message from it..And then released shit like State of Emergency..so...).
#27 by Matthew Gallant
2002-10-17 06:32:42
http://www.truemeaningoflife.com
I don't believe there will be any actual sex in BMX XXX, except for the canine variety. Just nudity. Thus, M.

"Is the internet making people less intelligent?"
"You mean like how video cameras cause thrown objects to hit men in the crotch?"
#28 by BobJustBob
2002-10-17 06:40:27
State of Emergency is fun. Morrowind is fun.

I'll reserve judgment on BMX XXX until it's out, but boobies are fun.

I'm killing myself with cola.
#29 by chris
2002-10-17 06:43:22
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
I don't understand why, over and over and over again, the games industry follows this pattern:

- Developer creates a REALLY FUCKING GOOD GAME
- Game sells like crazy
- Other people in the industry focus on one or two aspects of game and make games based on that, without bothering to make the games good
- Those games tank
- Everyone scratches their heads

Why is it so hard for people to realize? It's not the extremeness or celebrity endorsement of Tony Hawk. It's not the hookers of GTA3. It's not even the realistic setting and weapons of Counter-Strike. All of these things help to contribute to the real cause of their success, though: the fact that they're good games.

-chris
#30 by Your Friend
2002-10-17 06:44:21
I didn't like Morrowind, but I don't make it a point of ridiculing those who do.  Its just not my type of game.  

I will, however, ridicule you if you don't take back your statement that SoE is a fun game, because it is objectively not a fun game.  It a total and complete piece of shit with no redeeming value.
#31 by Charles
2002-10-17 07:01:28
www.bluh.org
Hey!  That's exactly what I think about Morrowind!

But we shouldn't make a point of riduling people with differing opinions, right?

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#32 by BobJustBob
2002-10-17 07:02:15
SoE is fun. Yes it is repetitive and gets old quickly, but then you put it down for a while and play more substantive games, then come back to it and SURPRISE it is fun again. I wish there was a way to turn off the civilian penalty thing though. It ends up being on like half the time, and that's no good.

I'm killing myself with cola.
#33 by Bailey
2002-10-17 07:15:24
Bob

State of Emergency is fun. Morrowind is fun.

People like you are the reason I vote with a fist instead of a ballot.

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#34 by BobJustBob
2002-10-17 07:30:31
And people like you are the reason I ignore the unqualified opinions of others.

I'm killing myself with cola.
#35 by Bailey
2002-10-17 07:39:02
Oh, I see, you're determining whose opinions are valid are whose are not. Should I line up here with the jews in front of the furnaces, or over there by the gallows with the gypsies?

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#36 by Charles
2002-10-17 07:48:14
www.bluh.org
Bailey, I believe you are the one doing the pushing of jews in to furnaces.

"There is a huge difference between disliking somebody - maybe even disliking them a lot - and actually shooting them, strangling them, dragging them through the fields and setting their house on fire. It was a difference which kept the vast majority of the population alive from day to day."
-Douglas Adams, Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency.
#37 by lwf
2002-10-17 07:50:18
They were cold.

I'd like to debate whether cannibalism ought to be grounds for leniency in murders since it is less wasteful
#38 by Bailey
2002-10-17 07:53:56
Technically, I only pushed Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego into the furnace in a past life. When it came to my WWII-era past life, I was fighting zombies for the Allies.

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#39 by lwf
2002-10-17 07:57:45
nazi-zombies?

or jap-zombies?

I'd like to debate whether cannibalism ought to be grounds for leniency in murders since it is less wasteful
#40 by Creole Ned
2002-10-17 08:02:51
The industry survived Custer's Revenge and Night Trap, it will survive this.

"I don't bemoan the great paste" - LPMiller
#41 by chris
2002-10-17 08:19:00
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
This is a lot higher profile than either of those.

What bugs me the most is that captain retard out there (aka: average parent) is just going to demand ratings and no-sales-to-minors and all this other bullshit instead of DOING THEIR FUCKING JOB and finding out what their kids are playing, and establishing and enforcing their own rules.

-chris
#42 by jafd
2002-10-17 08:39:26
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I'm not opposed to no-sales-to-minors. Sounds great to me. The majority of them shouldn't even be given shoes.

It'd be different, I suppose, if it weren't boobies that were going to get the big share of the excommunication, and not killing people. I prefer my games with more killing and less boobies, though, so it all works out for me.

Someone in the know explain again how restricting games from children is going to end up DESTORYING TEH INDUSTREE? I'm still not clear on that. Thanks.

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#43 by Bailey
2002-10-17 09:15:25
Well jafd, just as a wild guess, I'd say it'd be when the first Jimmy Slackass working at the EB gets their outlet shut down because he sold a copy of Army Men: The Rape Missions III to his classmate. It wouldn't encourage such businesses to carry those titles, in any case, and we'd all end up having to go to those scummy, dingy little game shops at the edge of town with the glory holes in the back where you put in a quarter to watch old Q-Bert cartoons for 30 seconds.

What a utopian future!

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#44 by Terata
2002-10-17 09:21:36
Perhaps that villianous Coilee is behind this after all.
#45 by "George Broussard"
2002-10-17 10:16:42
georgeb@3drealms.com
Too much drama.

It's sad there's a double standard with movies vs games.  I'm pretty sure that Walmart carries R-rated movies.

And to gamers offended by this or thinking "they're messing it up for games"...fucking please.  You watch a movie with boobies in it lately?  Hard to avoid, actually.
#46 by "George Broussard"
2002-10-17 10:21:03
georgeb@3drealms.com
Warren,

I, for one, am glad Walmart told them to kiss off.  I don't like seeing this sort of shit being produced because it takes the industry in a bad direction.  Topless girls riding bmx bikes ... what?  It's stupid and it has no place in an industry where people are trying to be taken seriously.


How elitist.

You think Spielberg actually cares about movies on Cinemax, or porn?  No.  The market decides.  Let BMX XXX go forth and garner sales.  Who are you, or I, or any of you gamers to judge what's worth.

An industry where people are trying to be taken seriously?

Yeah, like rock and roll in the 50's when Elvis came along.  That vulgar bastard gyrating on stage, making all the girls wet with the devil's passion!

Different strokes and all that.  :)
#47 by zarathustra
2002-10-17 10:30:58
anti_kre8er@yahoo.com
It is almost as if you are implying that Spielberg is legitimate, rather than being the worthless hack he is.

And anyone worth a shit is an elitist. there are to many yous for it to be otherwise.
#48 by Wheelie
2002-10-17 10:51:23
I dunno. If BMX XXX sells really well, doesn't that say that there is high demand for these kind of games? If that happens, then sports titles with XXX is what publishers will go for.
And likewise, if it don't sell good, the marketing peeps will figure out that boobs and BMX don't mix. End of partial nudity in sports games.

The Market is good. The Market works.

Need more money
#49 by lwf
2002-10-17 11:00:10
they should make a wrestling game.

mud wrestling, jello wrestling, that kind of thing.

I'd like to debate whether cannibalism ought to be grounds for leniency in murders since it is less wasteful
#50 by "George Broussard"
2002-10-17 11:04:19
georgeb@3drealms.com
DOA mud wrestling.  I'm so there.  Skip this volleyball nonsense.
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