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GDCE/ECTS Insider, Back from the Fray
September 4th 2002, 18:48 CEST by Bezzy

Some of you may know that I was able to attend the Game Developer's Conference: Europe after winning sponsorship from the IGDA. Let me tell you, it was well worth the four hundred and fifty quid price tag that I didn't have to pay.

I managed to hob-knob with some prime gaming hobos, including (name dropping ahoy...) Jon Hare (Sensible Software), Harvey Smith (Ion Storm), Jesper Juul (a bright young Academic who I would like to talk more about), Ernest Adams (I STILL LOVE YOU ERNEST!), skull crunchin' Jason Hall (Monolith) and his Disney corporate Stooge (Disney Interactive), a brief word with Ed Bartlett (Bitmap Brothers), and Sony's Dan Mueller, semi-responsible for the very promising warped perspective on beat 'em ups in the form of "The Mark of Kri".

GDCE's lectures this year were a little overly polite (save Jesper Juul and the highly technical DirectX 9 exposition). No-one seemed to want to tread on feet, or, more to the point, suggest much that wasn't already quite obvious. The major disappointment was Molyneux, Hassabis and Co's lack lustre attempts to gauge the future of game technology - a discussion that we here on PlanetCrap have covered both in depth and breadth, but which they seemed to flounder with, ignoring almost entirely alternate human interfaces, then complaining about doom 3's faceted edges without understanding the complication of the solution. In much the same way, most other lectures were celebrity driven affairs where the opinions presented were "correct", for questionably un-thought out reasons... a sort of wide spread case of whatever Robert Abbot is prone to.

It was satisfying, however, to see that myself (and I dare say most at PlanetCrap) are not the only people tired of derogatory games and the Machiavellian attitudes that bring them into the spot light. One speaker during the "Choosing the most Influential Game of all Time" panel took the opportunity to give a little inspiration to all: "If you, like me, are tired of watching big budget licenses and franchises crush smaller & better games, then you'll vote for me and my nomination for best game ever: Mario 64". Unsurprisingly, I was still left thinking "Eh?" as he was, indeed voted best speaker/game combination from the panel of 7. It seems that as a development community, most of us are still angry without understanding why. Before the industry can mature, developers have to be able to raise the bar. I don't think most are ready for that yet. But at least they’re angry.
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#1 by CheesyPoof
2002-09-04 18:49:15
I vote no and then it's on the front page?  I think the crap is broken.
#2 by Ergo
2002-09-04 18:49:25
Haven't we been having this argument for the last 10 years, at least?

Ia! Shub-Niggurath!

DVDs
#3 by Hugin
2002-09-04 18:51:36
lmccain@nber.org
I don't think derogatory means what Bezzy thinks it means.
#4 by Creole Ned
2002-09-04 18:53:41
CheesyPoof broke PlanetCrap. Get him!

And if developers are angry, does that explain the face of the Quake guy?

"I don't bemoan the great paste" - LPMiller
#5 by Marsh Davies
2002-09-04 18:56:15
www.verbalchilli.com
No, that's just a low fibre diet.

-- ex Spatula Man --
#6 by Shadarr
2002-09-04 19:13:54
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I think he was aiming for "derivative", but the scope was crooked.
#7 by m0nty
2002-09-04 19:23:02
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
We're raising the PlanetCrap Bar O' Anger™!

Always remember: THE DEVELOPERS OWE YOU NOTHING.
#8 by Your Friend
2002-09-04 19:24:54

"If you, like me, are tired of watching big budget licenses and franchises crush smaller & better games, then you'll vote for me and my nomination for best game ever: Mario 64".


Zing!  

Who said that?  That's got to be one of the best game industry quotes I've ever seen.
#9 by BobJustBob
2002-09-04 19:25:09
THE DEVELOPERS OWE ME CHEESE.

So there.
#10 by Your Friend
2002-09-04 19:26:37
Government cheese?  Do you expect them to deliver it to your van too?
#11 by Shadarr
2002-09-04 19:29:23
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
We get a van?
#12 by m0nty
2002-09-04 19:34:25
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
In Bob's case, I'm guessing his van has shag-pile carpet on the tray.
#13 by Warren Marshall
2002-09-04 19:42:47
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
In Bob's case, I'm guessing his van has shag-pile carpet on the tray.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#14 by averagejoe
2002-09-04 19:46:47
joe_dilworth@mentor.com
Hey, if it's got the shag-pile, I'll take one!

You're a vampire. Or is that an offensive term? Should I say 'undead American'?
Look kids, my DVDs
#15 by Max
2002-09-04 19:49:10
http://massivebraincase.org/
I like grapes.

"In two weeks they are patching in pet racing and pet boxing.  I hope to have turned Bailey into a killing machine by then.  We'll see." -Foodbunny
#16 by Duality
2002-09-04 19:56:31
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Government grapes?

-Jon
#17 by Ergo
2002-09-04 20:03:49
I want a pony.

Ia! Shub-Niggurath!

DVDs
#18 by averagejoe
2002-09-04 20:04:21
joe_dilworth@mentor.com
A pony with shag-pile fur?

#19 by Shadarr
2002-09-04 20:22:06
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I'd rather have a pony than a van.  Don't even want the carpetting.  Call me a Puritan, but I don't believe shag and pony should be in the same sentence.
#20 by averagejoe
2002-09-04 20:22:44
joe_dilworth@mentor.com
Puritan!  Ok, so, well, I agree with you on that one though.

#21 by Fugazi(werking)
2002-09-04 20:23:06
So where is the insider info?

"Good health" is merely the slowest rate at which one can die.
#22 by Matthew Gallant
2002-09-04 20:27:01
http://www.truemeaningoflife.com
Don't even want the carpetting.


The debate continues!

"Is the internet making people less intelligent?"
"You mean like how video cameras cause thrown objects to hit men in the crotch?"
#23 by Bailey
2002-09-04 20:53:54
I'm afraid that any questions directed towards Bezzy will only result in the expounding of his varied garage projects.

So instead: Shaggy Pony.

[/sarcasm]
#24 by crash
2002-09-04 21:26:40
ECTS... isn't that the trade show that wants to be E3 when it grows up? eh?

By this time tomorrow we can be doing BODY SHOTS off HOOKERS in some MEXICAN HELLHOLE
#25 by Ashiran
2002-09-04 21:38:24
I'm still baffled by people wanting ponies. It's a smelly farm animal which can bite your fingers off if you don't watch it. You can't even ride it.

Online gaming? Frustration commences.
#26 by Fugazi(werking)
2002-09-04 21:39:38
#23

So instead: Shaggy Pony.


That was pretty nauseating.

"Good health" is merely the slowest rate at which one can die.
#27 by Warren Marshall
2002-09-04 21:41:41
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
You can't even ride it.

You haven't lived.

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#28 by Post-It
2002-09-04 21:42:17
keithlee@speakeasy.net
Thinking...

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#29 by Post-It
2002-09-04 21:42:30
keithlee@speakeasy.net
Damnit NO I wasn't!

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#30 by Ergo
2002-09-04 21:47:25
I don't want to ride it, fool. I want to EAT it.

Ia! Shub-Niggurath!

DVDs
#31 by Max
2002-09-04 21:57:48
http://massivebraincase.org/
Subletting!

"In two weeks they are patching in pet racing and pet boxing.  I hope to have turned Bailey into a killing machine by then.  We'll see." -Foodbunny
#32 by averagejoe
2002-09-04 22:44:13
joe_dilworth@mentor.com
Yes, but you can also get your pony to bite your friends fingers off...that's entertainment right there.

#33 by Ashiran
2002-09-04 23:04:15
You haven't lived.

I was wondering who was sick enough to take that bait. I'm suprised it was you Warren.

Grew up on a farm?

Online gaming? Frustration commences.
#34 by bago
2002-09-04 23:05:56
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
There's always the Cartman school of pony usage...

iamelectro
#35 by averagejoe
2002-09-04 23:08:30
joe_dilworth@mentor.com
That was suitably 6th grade of you, Ashiran....

#36 by Darkseid-D
2002-09-05 00:58:15
rogerboal@hotmail.com
wait ?

a shag-pile pony girl?



woof, things have moved on then



Ds

Never argue with an idiot, theyll drag you down onto their level, then beat you with experience.
#37 by m0nty
2002-09-05 01:43:55
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I would have thought shagging on a pony would have been operationally hazardous. Apart from the omnipresent fear of falling off, the chafing would be horrendous. I mean, Lady Godiva and Bo Derek aside, I can't see too many chixx0rs consenting to have their nether regions rubbed to the quick by coarse pony hair.
#38 by Shadarr
2002-09-05 01:56:29
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
You're allowed to use padding, y'know.
#39 by Bailey
2002-09-05 02:03:37
Different kind of pony girl, m0nty.

[/sarcasm]
#40 by Shadarr
2002-09-05 02:09:52
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Yeah, let's not bring that into it Bailey.  It's bad enough that there were borderline furries on the Rate My Kitten site.
#41 by Bailey
2002-09-05 02:24:48
Only borderline? I saw a few that crossed the line.

[/sarcasm]
#42 by m0nty
2002-09-05 02:30:08
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Oh, if we're doing the pony girl linkage, this one is not work safe.
#43 by crash
2002-09-05 05:22:01
taking furries to a whole new level there, eh wot?

By this time tomorrow we can be doing BODY SHOTS off HOOKERS in some MEXICAN HELLHOLE
#44 by jafd
2002-09-05 09:16:38
Shhhh! Listen closely; you can hear Bezzy crying.

Boot to the head! (SH-ZOOMP!)
#45 by m0nty
2002-09-05 09:20:23
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Yeah, this topic is kinda lost without having Bezzy here to give us all this supposedly great goss.
#46 by jafd
2002-09-05 09:23:48
To be fair, I haven't seen anyone asking any questions of him.

Boot to the head! (SH-ZOOMP!)
#47 by Squeaky
2002-09-05 09:25:40
so what was the question again?

#48 by Terata
2002-09-05 09:33:47
Actually, I'll throw one in:  What were the other "Most Influential Game of All Time" nominees?  I mean, Mario 64 was cool and all, but calling it the most influential of all time just seems like insanity.
#49 by Bailey
2002-09-05 09:56:38
Oh, come on. Collecting all 120 stars led the way for the trend of annoying, pointless easter eggs in HUNDREDS of games which followed.

No, wait, industry trend from day one. Nevermind.

[/sarcasm]
#50 by Terata
2002-09-05 10:35:07
I've been trying to think of what I could legitimately put on a pedestal like that... random things come to mind but nothing I'd be really comfortable calling 'most influential.'  Phantasy Star, Gradius, Spacewar, Ultima, etc.  Maybe Dungeons and Dragons, even though it's non-electronic?
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