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Microsoft Palladium - We seriously challenge your intelligence!
August 9th 2002, 15:28 MSD by The_Joker Remember when Microsoft announced Hailstorm - "All your personal information are belong to us"? Nobody was interested because it was too risky, and people did not trust Microsoft with their personal information, let alone the fact that Microsoft would actually have full control over it. Microsoft basically had to forget about implementing Hailstorm for a while. Then came .NET - "You know, we have to admit we don't have the slightest clue as to what .NET really is or should be. In fact, we have to re-think this one. I give my company a C for its .NET understanding and implementation. - Bill Gates and co.". If you can remember these two Microsoft initiatives, combine them together, add a security smokescreen to it, and you have an important part of Palladium. When Microsoft realized they could not convince people about the benefits of Hailstorm, they went back to the drawing board. And they came with a very smart solution. I imagine one Microsoft exec probably said "Hey, it's not the end-users who have to decide here, it's the major players in the digital world, like hardware manufacturers, music companies, Hollywood etc. If we manage to convince them, so that they accept the technology and implement it, the end-users will have no choice." So instead of targeting end-users, they reworked the Hailstorm plan, and are now targeting businesses. And in order to do that, they have to offer these businesses something that they can't refuse, and badly need right now: Introducing Digital Rights Management, an important part of Palladium. This technology will finally give the Music Industry and Hollywood what they want, full control over their properties, not to mention giving Microsoft what they want, full control over their software. To be as secure as possible, Microsoft wants to implement this at the hardware level. Think DRM-enabled CPUs, Soundcards, CD-ROMS, you name it. In the future you will not be able to play your MP3's on the next version of Windows, currently codenamed Longhorn, the first version of Windows scheduled to ship with Palladium. Why not? Because the OS and/or the hardware you're running will detect that you have no rights to play those MP3s, and that you need to purchase the rights first. And when you do, Microsoft and its partners will be able to track exactly how long you may listen to a specific song, or use a specific application, until you have to purchase rights again. That's right, what works for the Music Industry will also work for Microsoft. Surprised? It's what they have been working towards the last 2 years. Subscription-based software. With Palladium it'll be easy to implement this. For example when you'll want to use Office, you'll need to buy a subscription for the Office applications you want to use, and Microsoft will be able to shut down the service when the subscription expires. Remember Product Activation? Product Activation was essentially just a preview and a way for Microsoft to already let end-users realize it would begin to enforce its licensing policies. Palladium will be many times worse, it will enable Microsoft to unleash astronomical amounts of massive shitfuckery on end-users. And all this tracking of your active subscriptions, your purchased rights etc. would have to be done by Microsoft and its Partners, you didn't think it would be managed locally on your computer did you - no way, that would enable hackers to easily crack it! Does this begin to ring a couple of bells? Perhaps detonate a few bombs as well? If you ask me, it sounds a lot like project Hailstorm - "All your personal information are belong to us." Microsoft and its partners will have to set up systems to manage al this data for all the millions of users out there. There will be _no_ avoiding it, you will have to set up a Passport account with your information so that Microsoft and its partners can track your account information online. And again, Microsoft will have full control. I don't think they will settle for less. Why not? Enter the .NET initiative, whatever that is, since not even its creators seem to know. A secure operating system will have to be able to control what is safe to run, and what not. This can only be done if the OS itself 'knows' what the code is trying to do or access. This is possible in .NET due to managed code - code that runs based on permissions and security settings. If the OS detects that code in a program is trying to access resources that it does not have permissions for, it basically blocks the code from execution. That alone is not enough. To be really secure, Microsoft will probably require software to be digitally signed. Much like with drivers on Windows 2000 and XP, but you may not have the option to run unsigned software. Signed software will make it very difficult to impossible to crack software because the OS will be able to check (at the hardware level for maximum security) if the executable matches the criteria in the encrypted signature, which could be (a combination of) the size of the executable, the CRC checksum, etc. This could also mean extra pains for developers, or having to jump through extra hoops to get their software working on the computers of end-users. And if you haven’t realized this yet, all of this will require the Internet. You will need an Internet connection to be able to do most of the things you can do today without an Internet connection. How else will the OS check your subscriptions and purchased digital rights managed somewhere else in the world on Microsoft systems? How else will the OS download encrypted digital signatures for software you’re trying to run on your PC? This is where web services and XML will play an important role also. And for those who don’t know, that’s also part of .NET. Although there are benefits to all of this, end-users will have to give up a lot of their freedom, and will be forced to give a lot of control to Microsoft and its partners. This will change the world of personal computing as we know it, without a doubt. How the market will react to the implementation of Palladium remains to be seen. Will consumers instead look for hardware that's not Palladium enabled? Will those hardware companies be making the big bucks, effectively forcing other hardware companies making Palladium hardware to stop supporting Palladium? Or will there be a law or regulations that will require hardware manufacturers to make Palladium enabled hardware, or else face an industry-wide boycott? I'm interested in hearing what the rest of Planetcrap thinks of this, but me and my wang don't like it one bit. I like my freedom. And so does my wang. |
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Joker just doesn't want to walk 20 miles barefoot, in the snow, each way, with the landmines and the dogs and the parking inspectors, so that his OS can make sure he bought that copy of Girls Gone Wild. I'm disappointed that the topic didn't use the term "slippery slope" when talking about the loss of user "freedom". It could have been improved by equating Microsoft centralized DRM to the ATF's gun tracking initiative. i like monkeys. are you a monkey?
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Oh, and the CIA. There's no mention of the CIA and Microsoft is spelled correctly with no dollarsigns-instead-of-S's. i like monkeys. are you a monkey?
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I'm disappointed that the topic didn't use the term "slippery slope" when talking about the loss of user "freedom". It could have been improved by equating Microsoft centralized DRM to the ATF's gun tracking initiative. Oh, and the CIA. There's no mention of the CIA and Microsoft is spelled correctly with no dollarsigns-instead-of-S's. What kind of shit hole topic is this!? "It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
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Whatever, if this happens to computers I'll go back to my Vic20 and just play JetPak till I die Ellen Feiss is my stoned goddess
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Before you dump on the "Daikatana"-esque bandwagon of bashing the topic and/or joker, perhaps reading another source like this will help. You can possibly claim the author is biased, but at least a cambridge researcher has the credentials to back up his speculations. Any serious thought? Or is everyone just going to go back swapping tips about how to use eDonkey, Kazaa, Sharereactor, etc.. Of course, if the next iteration of Microsoft's OS prevented the above from running, I suppose you'd care more. Security Guard: "How about some ID there, buddy?"
Me w/thong gun: "How about a sequin thong? ... *THUPT* ... " Security Guard: "Forget the ID, point me to a dancing pole!" |
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Gimme a 'j' for JUMP....not the ill-referenced 'dump'. *sigh* Security Guard: "How about some ID there, buddy?"
Me w/thong gun: "How about a sequin thong? ... *THUPT* ... " Security Guard: "Forget the ID, point me to a dancing pole!" |
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play JetPak till I die JetPak RULEZ! oooooooh the memories... Wheelie doesn't care about teh funnay. He's a nihilist.
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Why would anyone want to bash the topic? Don't you people realize the consequences of what is described in Joker's article?? Fuck, if this happens, it won't be fun at all to even own a fucking computer. |
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This just reminds me of people moaning about various Windows XP issues. In the end it hardly made a dent. Put out your doubts, dump 'em in a fishing net
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Click, click boom. I believe I can fly......urk.
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Yay, the end times are nigh! Microsoft has seized control of the planet and are after my personal information. Roll the boulders in front of the gates! Start heating the oil! The barbarians won't get in without a fight!! "It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
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Someone please explain to me why I, as someone who only uses MS products in work, should give a toss about this ? When they come to ethnically cleanse me
Will you speak out ? Will you defend me ? Freedom of expression doesn't make it alright Trampled underfoot by the rise of the right |
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Yeah there are extremes of the scale. I'm not advocating the "burn the observatory so this never happens again" approach, but prudent interest would be warranted. So why can't I get a single comment pro/con that doesn't involve foaming at the mouth and falling backwards, either way? Security Guard: "How about some ID there, buddy?"
Me w/thong gun: "How about a sequin thong? ... *THUPT* ... " Security Guard: "Forget the ID, point me to a dancing pole!" |
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Mad propz to Des for the Asimov ref. |
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I think it's a good topic, and I voted yes on it. Everyone so far has called it another warez topic or otherwise made fun of it, but I think Joker (for once) and Desiato raise a good point. For all of you Donkeying away into the wee hours of the morning, what are you going to do when the next MS OS doesn't let you? It's certainly a relevant topic. I for one am growing more and more uneasy at the thought of MS having so much control over my personal information. The problem is, I feel helpless to stop it. I need to work on an MS OS. I also don't like the idea of subscription-based applications -- I should be able to buy MS Office once, not pay to keep using it. I'm not sure why I feel that the former is right and the latter is wrong when I really think about it, but it just feels that way. In response to what Joker posed at the end, I for one would definitely look for hardware that circumvented Palladium -- in fact, it would be the first time I would actively avoid letting MS have so much control over my information. Would the average consumer do that? I doubt it. My guess is that the average consumer prefers convenience over personal information security and are willing to trust MS with their personal information if it saves some time. My guess would be that Palladium would become entrenched and no one will bother to do anything about it, though many will continue to complain that Big Brother is approaching. On the one hand, I'd like to say that they should get off their ass and do something about it. On the other I think, what can you do? "I can't drink POSSIBLE beers! I need ACTUAL beers! Damn you quantum physics!"
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Give it up for your homies, yo. I said ve're going to cut off your CHONSON!
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m0nty: Mad propz to Des for the Asimov ref. Either that or he was making a Simpsons reference to the episode where the meteor is going to devastate Springfield, but that in turn is a reference to Asimov's "Nightfall", mad props either way. :) "I can't drink POSSIBLE beers! I need ACTUAL beers! Damn you quantum physics!"
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Thinking about it more, I'm really, really ignorant about OS and hardware issues, and my post above could be off-topic -- Palladium sounds more like it has to do with preventing software piracy than it does gathering personal information. So maybe I'm off-base. "I can't drink POSSIBLE beers! I need ACTUAL beers! Damn you quantum physics!"
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My biggest concern as a software developer with Palladium and other trusted-computing approaches, is that they will only allow trusted code. That will add a burden on every software developer to go through whatever hoops are put up, just so that their code can run on someone else's system. My current project at work entails over a hundred distinct software components. Each component, each version, would need to be reapproved and marked. The amount of time added to each build would probably be significant, as we'd have to wait for our code to be approved. Significant enough that we'd not be able to deliver fixes in a timely fashion, thus pissing off our current customers and having a more difficult time attracting new customers. In a word, bad for business. Who is driving car?! Oh my god, bear is driving car! How can that be?
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Caryn: What apps -- other than games -- do you need a MS OS to run? I can think of a few that you really *need* Windows for, but I've normally found that except for games, you can find something functionally equivalent on other OSes. Lest you think me a zealot, I run Windows on the majority of my machines. But these DRM/privacy issues that have been coming up with MS have made me think a lot harder about what other options there are. -Ed "I'm running the same race as you brother, why are you tripping me up?"
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Ed: I work for Activision doing online marketing and stuff for titles like Wolfenstein, SoF2, etc. -- I have to have early builds of the games to do much of my work. Those builds only run on Windows machines. "I can't drink POSSIBLE beers! I need ACTUAL beers! Damn you quantum physics!"
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*nod* But you could do everything but run the games on a different OS? "I'm running the same race as you brother, why are you tripping me up?"
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My current project at work entails over a hundred distinct software components. Each component, each version, would need to be reapproved and marked. Or you could get a certificate and sign your code. i like monkeys. are you a monkey?
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I did not know that the signing could be done by me. Woo! Then I'm all for Palladium! Or something. But couldn't I just write a piracy/P2P app then, and sign it? Who is driving car?! Oh my god, bear is driving car! How can that be?
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one of the interesting things is that palladium is braking so many norwegian laws about comercial database handling that it probably never is going to be posible to sell it. norwegian laws are actualy so strict that back in school i had a go trough of the laws as part of the database classes.:) you actually need special compensation from the goverment to store anything more than name and address in your customer database. a grossery chain cant for example store what you are buying with a link to your name. so i dont worry to much about palladium because it and the hardware it runs on is not legal here. /rantmode off "your belief-system is not louder than my car-system." Saul Williams
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Yes it was a simpsons reference, but I am aware of the "Nightfall" one as well. I'm shooting for the middle. (FreeLove)-------(OS/Software right now)------(Lockdown, lights out) XP was the first big commotion. It ended up being less than what it could have been. For that, I'm grateful. But the problem is that if we don't keep our eye on this issue, be critical and extrapolate every possible abuse, then we deserve to reap our lack of interest if the extreme scenario is realized. The pressure against XP's activation encouraged change to the system we have now. If there isn't any pressure from consumers, then we'll get closer to the "lockdown" scenario than we would care to be. I just want enough public talk about it so at least there's an awareness from the entities considering this plan to take a step back and reconsider certain details. Security Guard: "How about some ID there, buddy?"
Me w/thong gun: "How about a sequin thong? ... *THUPT* ... " Security Guard: "Forget the ID, point me to a dancing pole!" |
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But couldn't I just write a piracy/P2P app then, and sign it? You could, but keep in mind that Certificates and Digital IDs can be revoked by the CA. i like monkeys. are you a monkey?
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Yeah...verisign - very nice, one free trial then it's $400+ for a cert. I'm sure all the p2p authors will be springing for that mega-deal. (That cold wind? It's chilling sarcasm) Security Guard: "How about some ID there, buddy?"
Me w/thong gun: "How about a sequin thong? ... *THUPT* ... " Security Guard: "Forget the ID, point me to a dancing pole!" |
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You know, I'm pretty sure everyone is horribly overreacting. MS isn't stupid. They didn't get this far by being stupid. So far I've read: A) MS is going to release the sourcecode for the palladium stuff. B) All palladium features will be customizable on a per app basis, by the user. C) It's mostly just a glorified hardware implementation of public key cryptography, which isn't really a bad thing, and can't really be used against you. D) It will require the cooperation of hardware manufacturers of motherboards and processors. Now, I figure D is the big rub. Intel has always been pretty sound of mind when it comes to user privacy and stuff. Despite a few mishaps, which they corrected (based on public outcry), they've always been against things that most of the geek community has been against. Last I heard, they were even against DRM. Now how do you suppose MS is going to convince a hardware giant like intel to add features in to all the hardware they make? Somehow I doubt that will happen. And anyway, the fact of the matter is that even if this were to get the full green light (which I seriously, seriously doubt), there'd be a mod chip available within a month, and software patches for windows within a day. This is a non-issue. "'Halo 2' is a lot like 'Halo', only it's 'Halo' on fire, going 130 miles per hour through a hospital zone, being chased by helicopters and ninjas," explained Jason Jones, the head of Bungie Studios, "and the ninjas are all on fire, too."
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ObSlashDot: Lindows. |
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*nod* But you could do everything but run the games on a different OS? Yeah, but why would I want to have two different OS's to accomplish this? I've got to get out of one OS whenever I need to load up one of our games, which is frequently? Let me rephrase: I can't do my work realistically on anything but a Windows OS. "I can't drink POSSIBLE beers! I need ACTUAL beers! Damn you quantum physics!"
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Oh, and I also read that AMD is jumping up and down for the chance to be Microsoft's lapdog on this one. Which would be suicide, IMO, since the geek community is AMD's biggest set of supporters. One mention of a hardware implementation of this on AMD chips and AMD will magically find themselves without any sales or userbase. "'Halo 2' is a lot like 'Halo', only it's 'Halo' on fire, going 130 miles per hour through a hospital zone, being chased by helicopters and ninjas," explained Jason Jones, the head of Bungie Studios, "and the ninjas are all on fire, too."
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Yeah, but why would I want to have two different OS's to accomplish this? I've got to get out of one OS whenever I need to load up one of our games, which is frequently? Let me rephrase: I can't do my work realistically on anything but a Windows OS. Makes sense. I think that for the majority of people, though, Windows isn't a requirement -- it's just what comes on the machines they always buy. Ignoring gaming, of course. "I'm running the same race as you brother, why are you tripping me up?"
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What are the Slashbots going to use if AMD and Intel adopt Palladium? Transmeta? i like monkeys. are you a monkey?
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Yellow Dog Linux on PPC. "I'm running the same race as you brother, why are you tripping me up?"
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Uh oh, and what if Apple drops PPC for x86? NO MORE OPTIONS. Who is driving car?! Oh my god, bear is driving car! How can that be?
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WE'RE FUCKED "I'm running the same race as you brother, why are you tripping me up?"
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For all of you Donkeying away into the wee hours of the morning, what are you going to do when the next MS OS doesn't let you? It's certainly a relevant topic. Not upgrade. Seriously, I'm trying to figure out where it says I must upgrade my OS to Windows 1984. I for one am growing more and more uneasy at the thought of MS having so much control over my personal information. The problem is, I feel helpless to stop it. As am I. But I really don't see this as gaining too much acceptance. 1) Its going to start at the manufacturer level. That's where they plan on releasing Palladium and TCPA hardware to. The technical minority (minority in respect to computer users in general) won't go near it. 2) A company will provide hardware for a niche market willing to spend money on TCPA-free hardware 3) When it comes to pirated music/software, I think enough people have tasted the MP3 craze to know that they wouldn't like hardware/software that refused to let them grab their favorite MP3s to burn to CD for mom or dad. 4) I think people are a lot more hesitant about providing personal information than we think. There are constant reminders in your local news about frauds and scams, with the token reminder of never giving your personal information out to anybody. Expanding on that further, many people still have apprehensions toward shopping online. I think that will spill over into people's reluctance to provide information like credit card numbers and the like to Microsoft. I should be able to buy MS Office once, not pay to keep using it. I'm not sure why I feel that the former is right and the latter is wrong when I really think about it, but it just feels that way. Probably because thus far most, if not all Microsoft products have been products and not services, as I see it. Subscriptions generally provide new, consistency in content. I fail to see what Microsoft has to offer that would allow for a subscription-based model. Give me the product. If there are problems in this product, I expect the company to fix those errors as a courtesy, not an additional support fee, and certainly not a regular fee that I will be charged, even if I have no problems. I subscribe to ObjectDesktop.net. Its a suite of apps that will modify your desktop made by Stardock. This I accept as a subscription because they make new applications available to download. $50 per year for about 10 apps that are between $10 and $20 individually. If Microsoft were to offer this sort of service, then I would see a subscription as making sense, otherwise its just them trying to have more control of who uses and who doesn't use their product and possibly even make more money. On the one hand, I'd like to say that they should get off their ass and do something about it. On the other I think, what can you do? They? Or We? If it really is going to affect all of us, don't you think it should be we, the people affected, who do something about it? But like you said -- what can we do? What Would Bailey Do? -Jon
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No alternative OS will save you from Palladium if the laws pass because they will regulate all forms of digital copyright and software transactions. Forget any OS's such as Linux etc saving your ass. UCITA will prohibit public criticism of any product, reverse engineering , allow vendors to determine jurisdiction for litigation, and permit vendors to assume rights to creative endeavors of users and to change contract terms anytime with the added bonus of freeing them from any warranties that guarantee proper functionality of their own software. Right now, just with DCMA, there is no "legal" way to play DVD's on Linux. Researcher's of major universities must ask permission to exhibit security flaws in software or risk getting sued. Alan Cox, a major kernel developer for Linux behind Torvalds, resigned from Usenix and will no longer travel to the US because of DCMA and UCITA. Others are starting to follow in his footsteps. Right now Congress is pushing bills that would protect copyright holders from any legal actions that result from DoS attacks on people "they suspect" of using material in an unauthorized way on P2P network. The CSEA act just passed that allows the federal government to tap or seize all your electronic communication without warrant or probable cause. Before you blow this topic off and return to which archiver is the best at least educate yourself a little. www.eff.org www.badsoftware.com |
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Duality: Probably because thus far most, if not all Microsoft products have been products and not services, as I see it. Subscriptions generally provide new, consistency in content. Bingo -- you just laid out what it was I was trying to formulate in my pre-coffee fog. What Would Bailey Do? THIS is my new guiding directive from here on out. Only I think I like "What Would Baileytron Do?" "I can't drink POSSIBLE beers! I need ACTUAL beers! Damn you quantum physics!"
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one of the interesting things is that palladium is braking so many norwegian laws about comercial database handling that it probably never is going to be posible to sell it. 'Cause we all now that Microsoft bases the majority of their business decissions on what the norwegian legislation says. Yeah. *nods head* professional philosophical level design monkey.
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Baileytron would rust like a '57 Chevy in an industrial waste dump, and do exactly diddly squat. Which makes for a good metaphor, really. |
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yeah but it will be fun to watch the hillarity ensue following the release. :) "your belief-system is not louder than my car-system." Saul Williams
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wail wail wail, gnash gnash gnash. MS touted their activation as the piracy breaker. It wasn't. People are now afraid that this will be the privacy/p2p breaker. It isn't. There is always a way to circumvent, especially in MS' code. I said ve're going to cut off your CHONSON!
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You're entering a world of pain ... "It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
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Wow, never realized I grabbed a line of white when I copied that square. Now it looks embossed. I'm the accidental artist! I said ve're going to cut off your CHONSON!
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As for the personal information and privacy thing, what Joker was trying to illustrate i think is that Microsoft wanted a central system where the personal information of ALL computer users online would be stored, so that it would be easy for their .NET technology, for webservices and online applications to access this information. But people didn't like the fact that all this information would be managed by Microsoft, and while Microsoft has full control over it. That was project Hailstorm, and MS had to stop its implementation. Now, they are trying to do the same thing, but with a different approach. Now they are tackling the problem from a secure and trusted computing angle, and are offering stuff like DRM to businesses, who will then be a lot more interested. But when all this digital rights management and online tracking is going to take place, where will everyone's information be stored? Not on their PC's, but on the Internet. It's the same Hailstorm idea. Every Palladium chip wil ship with a unique ID, that will enable people to identify your PC. It's a requirement for the whole trusted computing part. So there goes your privacy. Plus, I don't think hardware companies who won't make Palladium hardware will stand a chance. Look at Intel, Intel had to agree even though they were reluctant to it, because they were afraid of losing marketshare otherwise to AMD. Knowing Microsoft, they will try to boycott every company who doesn't support Palladium in one way or the other. All Microsoft software and technologies will be rolling out supporting, or requiring Palladium the moment the next version of Windows with Palladium ships in 2005. You will get a situation where developers will be forced to support Palladium to be able to take advantage of certain features in Windows. On the other hand, even if users don't upgrade their hairdware to Palladium hardware, Microsoft and other developers will be rolling out software requiring Palladium hardware. If they develop subcription-based Office 2005 that uses Palladium for the subscription management stuff, users will be forced to buy new hardware to use the new software. Imagine companies like Discreet, they will happily integrate Palladium into their 3DSMax software, it will be so fucking easy to manage licenses, and it will be impossible to warez or crack it. Users, companies who use 3DSMax will be forced to upgrade their hardware so they can continue to use 3DSMax. It's like today, with for example games. Oh you want to run Doom3? Well you need a GeForce 4 card and a minimum of 256MB of RAM. You have a TNT 2 and 64MB RAM on your system. You want to play Doom 3. What will you do? I've also seen on websites where Microsoft executives say you can turn on and off the Palladium component. That has got to be the biggest piece of bullshit I read in the last 3 months. If the software you run requires it to function, how in the fuck will you turn it off??? So can I like, turn it off, listen to that CD i bought last week of which my rights have expired, and then turn it back on later? I don't think so. |
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#51 I'm afraid Palladium won't be able to be cracked. And by that I mean, like in the sense how software gets cracked today. Sure, in the computer world everything can be cracked, if you have the time, the tools and the money, you can crack anything. But Palladium will make it impossible to crack/warez sofware like it's happening today. It virtually will be impossible to do so. Joker illustrated that in his piece. |
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Wow, no more piracy! Woot!! You'll understand if I hold off on buying the champagne just yet ... "It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
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Someone else also brought up an interesting point about developers wanting to digitally sign their software. Will Microsoft and Verisign charge developers for that? Would developers have to go through that process for every damn executable they release, just so that the user will not get a "This program is not digitally signed by Microsoft and could damage your computer." message (effectively causing Joe Compaq to delete it from his PC, and perhaps also format his C drive just to be save), or not be able to run it at all? |
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