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July 6th 2002, 16:05 CEST by Ashiran

Every single game I purchased has a way for me to register said game. Now I never ever done this and I can't by the life of me imagine why anyone should want to. Same thing for gaming hardware.
The only "benefits" registration has is customerhelp with your game and free stuff (read: spam).

Is registration a left over from the great pre-internet era where help was difficult to obtain? And if so why don't companies stop it? I mean the absolute zero registrations that return must atleast be some kind of indicator right?
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#1 by LPMiller
2002-07-06 16:17:08
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Interplay is the worst.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#2 by Warren Marshall
2002-07-06 16:42:47
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
I would imagine that they must get SOME or they wouldn't bother asking.

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#3 by Matthew Gallant
2002-07-06 16:48:13
http://www.truemeaningoflife.com
Registration has always primarily been a way for the company to send you their catalog. Or perhaps even singularly. It's a proven marketing technique; everyone sends in their cards except you. And me. And almost everyone.

Current market value of the Max Payne IP according to a comparison of the market capitalization of Take Two pre- and post- sale: approx. -$267,000,000.
#4 by Warren Marshall
2002-07-06 16:49:37
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Activision and Origin used their registration lists to send out patch disks didn't they?  Or am I remembering that wrong...

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#5 by Greg
2002-07-06 17:07:54
I only remember sending in a couple of registration cards. Though if I remember correctly it was pre-Internet, or at least before it got real big. I think my only logic was that they said you might win something. Though I don't remember winning anything...

Oh, I guess that last sig don't make sense anymore...
#6 by Neale
2002-07-06 17:36:03
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
I actually won something from Westwood when I registered (online) after buying C&C. It was a copy of "legend of kyrandia" if memory serves me correctly.

signatures are, as I've stated, for perverts
#7 by Fallon
2002-07-06 17:49:42
http://www.fagnews.com
You usually get emailed about updates and patches.

So if you're too, uh, uninclined to check news sites that's how they tell you to get patches.

I'd feel more fulfilled making Christmas cards with the mentally ill.
#8 by Sgt Hulka
2002-07-06 19:00:47
I registered a game once.  Nothing happened.

DOOMED! - Videogames Turn Deadly.
#9 by r a w p o w e r
2002-07-06 19:02:14
backonthemap@hotmail.com
I thrive on the energy this topic is generating.

Stillborn baby:
Your mother didn't want you but you were still born.  
  -cannibal ox
#10 by Fallon
2002-07-06 19:12:28
http://www.fagnews.com
Thinking...

I'd feel more fulfilled making Christmas cards with the mentally ill.
#11 by Cliff
2002-07-06 19:13:08
cps46@rcn.com
The number of registrations a company receives is just one part of their Internet Demographics and Intelligence Online Tracker System (IDIOTS) for short.

They take the total sales figures.  Subtract the number of fanbois and flamers that sign up at their forums.  Then subtract the number of folks who, like obedient little sheep, send in their registration cards.  What's left, when divided by the total sales number, is the percentage of players with at least a modicum of Intelligence Online.  

This is an important number for industry to measure, because they want to optimize their IDIOTS figure (in this case, by minimizing the percentage of intelligent folk) -- and as anybody knows, to optimize, you must measure.  

Happily for the industry, overall Intelligence Online has been declining -- even though there's fewer people sending in the cards, there's more and more idiots spending all their energy flaming each other on forums.

But they're always concerned about sites like PlanetCrap...that's right -- laugh all you want, they have agents in our midst.  What's even more ominous: of late, they are no longer content at having these agents just observe -- out of fear of the moxy of folk here, they have started to interfere with the explicit goal of dragging the conversation here down.  

Their main method appears to be getting inane topics, about which almost nothing useful can be said, posted to the front page...

Fight terrorism, grow your own weed.
#12 by Ashiran
2002-07-06 19:13:17
Okay so some people used to register games. But in the current scene? Who on this board still registers his/her games? Anyone? Don't lie!

From my copy of Ground Control (just pulled a random game out of the cabinet) the registration benefits are:

1) A free hotline for all your technical problems
2)A 90 day disk guarantee

That's it.
Nobody wants to call a helpdesk to begin with and all problems are readily available on the web (combined with bitching/whining). So the first one is out.

A 90 day disk guarantee is nice but which official disk stops working before 90 days? All my games are pressed on quality cd's and as far as I can tell all of them are still working. So the only way you will lose your disk if you break it or accidently drop it in a vat of acid. Games that you really don't wanno lose you make a copy from and then play with the copy.

What you also gain is a company that will have a bunch of your personal info. And I don't like the idea of that in this spam infested world. Especially not cause I see no other good reason for companies to ask for registrations.
Or am I missing something here?

"Good writers are harder to find than nice breasts" - morn
#13 by Sgt Hulka
2002-07-06 19:17:08
Yahoo fucked up this morning, which caused me to enter my "CORRECT" password multiple times which locked me out of my account, now I can't get my password sent to me since I have an old alt email in my account, and this is all through no fault of my own

fucking Yahoo Assholes

The moral of this story kiddies?  When you register for free email accounts, make sure your alt email address is kept current, otherwise you'll be sitting here in this boat with me.

I've emailed them three times this morning to get my account fixed, each time it's some dumb ass excuse as to why they can't change my alt email address.  Each time I email them back my frustration meter goes well over the RED area.

DOOMED! - Videogames Turn Deadly.
#14 by Cliff
2002-07-06 19:27:51
cps46@rcn.com
Hulka

I'm in the same boat.  I wanted to sign up for Yahoo Auctions, and they needed my "security password", which is some sort of second-level password for when they want to be really, really sure you are who you say you are.  I had forgotten that, and didn't find it in any of my notes, so I hit the "email it to me" button.  Which went to a no longer in service email.  Needless to say (well, not needless these days, there's plenty of idiots), you cannot change your alternate email without the security password either.

I went through the process, twice, of calling their customer service line, explaining the situation, giving the additional identifying information they asked for and a new alternate email address, and being told they changed it.  Except that both times, they prompty and effienctly didn't.   Maybe I'll try again someday when I can whip up enough shit to give about their Auctions; in the meantime I can still get my Yahoo mail.

Technically of course this is/i] through a "fault of my own" -- are you sure it isn't in your case?

Fight terrorism, grow your own weed.
#15 by Cliff
2002-07-06 19:40:52
cps46@rcn.com
Actually that story I told before?  All lies.

What's really going on with mail-in registrations is that it's an FBI program.  Unfortunately for them, but luckily for us, the whole FBI only recently acquired a few net-connected Pentiums.  (To the extent they have computers, most of them are ZX-81s, which they picked because they thought the name "sounded cooler" than VIC-20).

They're not actually interested in tracking all gamers -- just the ones that buy FPSs, so that they can later look for them and see who might have actual weapons skills.  All those folks go into their database (OK, filing cabinet) -- then when they finally subvert the Second Amendment, and take away all our guns, the U.N. shock troops will land on those people's front lawns in their Black Choppers(tm) to spirit them away so that they can usher in the New World Order without interference from True(tm), Freedom(r)-Loving Americans.

Once they've done that, Phase II goes into operation.  That's when...

hang on, I'll finish this later.  There's someone at the door.

Fight terrorism, grow your own weed.
#16 by BobJustBob
2002-07-06 19:54:37
Is registration a left over from the great pre-internet era where help was difficult to obtain?

Yes.

And if so why don't companies stop it?

Because they sell your email addresses to spam lists.

I mean the absolute zero registrations that return must atleast be some kind of indicator right?

No. It is a proven fact that nothing can reach absolute zero.

So there.
#17 by Neale
2002-07-06 19:55:30
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
Hulka: I had the same with ICQ when some twattock brute-forced my password. Because I'd never had an email address in my user info, they wouldn't send me my password. The account is still inactive, over a year later, and they still won't let me have it.

signatures are, as I've stated, for perverts
#18 by Sgt Hulka
2002-07-06 19:57:01
Cliff

Technically of course this is through a "fault of my own" -- are you sure it isn't in your case?

No, and I just finished a scathing email to the Yahoo Asshles about it.  My password for sgt_hulka@yahoo.com has been the same for the last five years.  I have never changed it.  

This morning it would not work.  I don't consider that to be a fault of my own.  It's only when I requested a new one be sent to me did the situation cross into my realm of ownership.  I forgot my old alt email was non-functioning after I requested the new password.  So now it has probably bounced back to the Yahoo Assholes, which they do nothing about since they are assholes.  I'm really digging calling them assholes right now.

Note to self: Print up some nice "Yahoo Are Assholes" T-shirts, sell on Ebay (If I can remember my Ebay password!)

DOOMED! - Videogames Turn Deadly.
#19 by PogoTribal
2002-07-06 20:04:54
Neale 6
I actually won something from Westwood when I registered (online) after buying C&C. It was a copy of "legend of kyrandia" if memory serves me correctly.

That's a pretty sweet deal.

Fallon 7
You usually get emailed about updates and patches.

So if you're too, uh, uninclined to check news sites that's how they tell you to get patches.

I would think that some internet-savvy users who buy games are S.M.A.R.T. enough to understand that patches are needed. Not all, of course. I was playing RtCW on my friend's brother's computer the other day and saw graphics glitches. I found out that he was using his original Gateway NVidia drivers of 1.5 years age (a crime punishable by 20 lashings from the Detonator community) AND had not patched the game. If the publishers promised "game updates" in the form of free CDs sent out through mail, then I'm sure their registration tactics wouldn't prove as futile as they are now. It would also clue people in that games are inherantly shitty outofthebox but something can be done about it, instead of not buying the publisher's games in the future. Didn't Monolith promise to do something like this with Shogo/Blood II ?

Love... biochemically related to consuming large quantities of chocolate.
#20 by Cliff
2002-07-06 20:05:14
cps46@rcn.com
I guess the quotes around "CORRECT" threw me off the first time, sorry Hulka.  Please don't include me in your Yahoo spree.

Fight terrorism, grow your own weed.
#21 by PogoTribal
2002-07-06 20:07:11
(The e-mail conundrum)

This is why I use "underground" e-mail servers and not the biggies like Yahoo or Hotmail. I currently have evil email and I wouldn't go to anything else. Saves me the trouble of SPAM too.

Love... biochemically related to consuming large quantities of chocolate.
#22 by jjohnsen
2002-07-06 20:14:15
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I used to register Sierra games.  When I registered Kings Quest II and Thexder they sent a years subscription to their game magazine.  Mostly advertisements, but it also had previews and cool interviews with the developers, asking questions like will there be boobs in Leisure Suit LArry III?  IF more companies did that I might bother registering.

The incredible insights you've given on many topics have brightened all of our lives and touched us in ways we can never fully describe.
#23 by HoseWater
2002-07-06 20:19:23
barneyque@hotmail.com
What are the limits of evil mail?  Hotmail has become really offensive as of late with stupid shit going on like super tight limits on amount of space available, compounded by them spamming you telling you how to get more space.  Crap like that gets my goat.

And the spam...despite my setting not to allow it, and having several filters configured...they don't work, just a sieve.

Ex-post-facto rule changes drive me nuts.
#24 by PogoTribal
2002-07-06 20:32:56
HoseWater

I've never had a space problem with evilemail, so I'm not sure how much they give for free (at least 5 mb, of course). The real beauty is, seriously, the total lack of spam. And if you do happen to receive spam, you can send an email to their abuse address and they will block it from their systems. The long list of domain names is kinda cool, too (mine's PogoTribal@sillymotherfucker.com).

Love... biochemically related to consuming large quantities of chocolate.
#25 by jafd
2002-07-06 21:51:02
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1000033180
Hey, at least it is still legal to abstain from registering. Er, sometimes. So far.

deltree ereg, kthx

"You go to HELL! You go to HELL and you DIE!!"
#26 by Charles
2002-07-06 22:04:09
www.bluh.org
Most of the games I've registered were online only games that pretty much required registration to play.  Ultima Online, Tribes 2, Neverwinter Nights.

...is the new SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.
#27 by None-1a
2002-07-06 22:06:33
[quoteYahoo fucked up this morning, which caused me to enter my "CORRECT" password multiple times which locked me out of my account, now I can't get my password sent to me since I have an old alt email in my account, and this is all through no fault of my own

What's it matter anyway, It's yahoo the account will be filled with spam by tomorrow morning anyway.
#28 by zimbardo_ugly
2002-07-06 22:26:05
zimbardo_ugly@hotmail.com
Warren -
I have broadband and I have no sympathy for those who don't.  Die dinosaurs!


The game developer mantra.

.i lu doi ringos.star. xu do puku'aroroi dunli dopecaku leni virnu li'u
.i lu go'i co'i le pamoi se morji be mi li'u
#29 by Sgt Hulka
2002-07-06 23:11:47
none-1a "What's it matter anyway, It's yahoo the account will be filled with spam by tomorrow morning anyway. "


True, and I have a "real" email address I use for important things anyway.  I block a lot of SPAM, but nothing is 100% spam-proof, even at my Evil Email addy Ted_Kennedy@Drunkenbastards.com, I still get spam.  Most of it for pr0n sites.

DOOMED! - Videogames Turn Deadly.
#30 by Charles
2002-07-06 23:29:35
www.bluh.org
zimbardo_ugly:
The game developer mantra.


For a reason too.

...is the new SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.
#31 by Charles
2002-07-06 23:36:26
www.bluh.org
And might I take a moment to point out that you are in the wrong thread?

...is the new SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.
#32 by Matt Davis
2002-07-06 23:51:44
http://looroll.com
Maybe Sierra will e-mail me when they make Tribes 2 work/fun/playable again.

I registered on quite a few games an I've had nothing from any of them, not even patch info, perhaps the 10 patches per game I installed were a figment of my warped imagination, so all I can think is that they sold it to a spam list.

This week I will be mostly wearing no pants
#33 by zimbardo_ugly
2002-07-07 00:01:35
zimbardo_ugly@hotmail.com
And might I take a moment to point out that you are in the wrong thread?


You reply to Warren in the same thread, if you're so brave.

.i lu doi ringos.star. xu do puku'aroroi dunli dopecaku leni virnu li'u
.i lu go'i co'i le pamoi se morji be mi li'u
#34 by Fallon
2002-07-07 01:12:48
http://www.fagnews.com
Didn't Monolith promise to do something like this with Shogo/Blood II ?


You can afford to fully support products that not one single person actually buys.

I'd feel more fulfilled making Christmas cards with the mentally ill.
#35 by PogoTribal
2002-07-07 01:20:06
I can?

Love... biochemically related to consuming large quantities of chocolate.
#36 by webrunner
2002-07-07 01:31:16
webrunner@adventurers-comic.com http://www.adventurers-comic.com
Games that you really don't wanno lose you make a copy from and then play with the copy

Most games nowadays are released in difficult-to-copy formats.  Safedisc takes forever to read to copy, a lot of them require a RAW writer...  I really do need to get a new writer though, mine is slow and doesnt support a lot of stuff...

You know, some people say things about ambiguity.
#37 by HoseWater
2002-07-07 01:56:55
barneyque@hotmail.com
You better be careful webrunner, you are straying into joe six-pack territory there.  

You risk blowing up a lot of peoples arguments with statements like that.
#38 by WeeMadArthur
2002-07-07 02:21:44
smarteyman@interia.pl
Hulkster:
You forgot about the exclamation marks. The t-shirt should read "Yahoo! Are! Assholes!" or something like that.
BTW, I saw you, er, I mean Sgt. Hulka on the telly the other day. Good job kicking that punk Bill Murray's arse!

"You ate my chicken ass, now I want to eat your ass!"
#39 by NightmareZero
2002-07-07 02:50:36
It's great when games have a option that says "never regester"

DIE DIE DIE
#40 by Darkseid-D
2002-07-07 04:21:50
rogerboal@hotmail.com
not really, most of us prefer to see `never register`


or never read www.theregister.co.uk





Ds

Never argue with an idiot, theyll drag you down onto their level, then beat you with experience.
#41 by Warren Marshall
2002-07-07 05:32:52
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
You had to go so far for that one, I hope you packed a lunch.

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#42 by PogoTribal
2002-07-07 09:18:50
Can anybody explain to me why I frequently get a nonexistant window in my taskbar that says " ~close~ " ? Obviously it wants me to close it, but then why the hell would it pop up in the first place?

Love... biochemically related to consuming large quantities of chocolate.
#43 by crash
2002-07-07 10:04:58
if a game company tells me what i'll get if i register, i register. if they don't, i don't.

they have my money, i have their game. at that point, we're even. they want more? provide something in return.

it's called "barter".

Whoops, sorry, was my common sense showing again? -HoseWater
#44 by Mank
2002-07-07 11:08:02
I wait till I've played a good portion of the game before determining whether or not registration is a good idea. They've already got my money, why give them personal info if the game sucks?

...on the outside looking in, banned by an epiphany at an EB store....
#45 by zimbardo_ugly
2002-07-07 11:45:27
zimbardo_ugly@hotmail.com
I wait till I've played a good portion of the game before determining whether or not registration is a good idea. They've already got my money, why give them personal info if the game sucks?


For the life of me, I can't understand why that would be a factor?

.i lu doi ringos.star. xu do puku'aroroi dunli dopecaku leni virnu li'u
.i lu go'i co'i le pamoi se morji be mi li'u
#46 by Fallon
2002-07-07 14:06:07
http://www.fagnews.com
Yeah. We all know, if the game sucks, you just give them fake info!

I'd feel more fulfilled making Christmas cards with the mentally ill.
#47 by Ashiran
2002-07-07 22:09:06
Well I suppose this is one of those things that will remain a mystery. :/

"Good writers are harder to find than nice breasts" - morn
#48 by Mank
2002-07-08 05:25:27
Why do I wait?...Simple...

I used to register everything by mail back in the old days(C-64 era), or sent in the little warranty cards that accompanied the equipment I purchased. In the pre internet days you could count on getting at least a coupon or three for "X" amount of dollars off of your next purchase, or a nice news letter detailing all of the other games that the publisher in question offered. Back then it was hard to find access to games because EB/Babbages ect. didnt exist, so registration offered more rewards and benefits in that regard than it does now. Nowadays if I buy a game and the game is good fun, then I risk the spam and whatnot by providing my personal information, because I am genuinely interested in other possible titles this dev/publisher may offer.

Sidenote: I recently got a subscription to a popular gaming mag, within 2 weeks of sending in my payment and mailing addy I started getting all of these "pre=approved" credit card offers in the mail. I called one of these CC places up and asked them where the hell they got my name, the lady I spoke with said "Apparently you either got a magazine subscription, or applied online for a credit card"(which I have never done).....bleh...:/

...on the outside looking in, banned by an epiphany at an EB store....
#49 by haplo
2002-07-08 13:05:47
jjohnsen:  I used to register Sierra games.  When I registered Kings Quest II and Thexder they sent a years subscription to their game magazine.



WOW thexder...forgot about that one...

But yeah I think the benefit of registering went out with the internet.  I used to always register and always get something...like the aforementioned Sierra mag, or discount coupons from EA sports etc.

Now if I register at all, which is rare, what do I get?

diddly squat™ thats what!!!!

<@jafd> Anyway, Darth, your name is stupid. sry.
<@Ashiran> So no more darthnugget?
#50 by jjohnsen
2002-07-08 21:01:00
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I miss thexder.  They came out with a version a few years ago that ran under 98.  Avoid it like the plague, it sucks hard.  Its like a mario brothers version of the original.

The incredible insights you've given on many topics have brightened all of our lives and touched us in ways we can never fully describe.
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