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Simerika the beautiful
September 24th 2002, 01:35 CEST by Xero

Imagine a Sim world wherein all Sim civil liberties are taken away, and detention without trial is the norm, a world with all the worst and best qualities of your favorite Dystopian Fiction such as 1984, WE, A Clockwork Orange, The Handmaid's Tale, 2084 or Brave New World.


The future of constitutional democracy in Simerika is Doubleplus Bad, but you can change that.

Would you play an online Sim game that takes current ultra-Conservative trends to their extreme ends?  A Sim world where you can either be a cog in the Corporate machinery, minion of a benign Dictatorship or a Freedom Fighter trying to empower the Prolekulture.

What features would you like to see included, possibly the paranoia and conspiracies of Deus Ex but converted to the happy paperdoll universe of the Sims? Duelling ideologies, infectious memes, Black helicopters, Simland Security operatives, Simkorp Brownshirts? Would this concept work better as a God Game, or as a Mod to an existing game?

Imagine all the important ideological issues of the day distilled down from their gray overtones, to simple black and white, binary on/off.

Imagine Simerika: The Plastik Age.
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#1 by Your Friend
2002-09-24 01:35:22
First Post!!!
Suck it down!
#2 by Charles
2002-09-24 01:36:25
www.bluh.org
This was a resubmitted topic, after it got beaten down.

I've said it before, I'll say it again:  If you are going to use 1984isms, at least get them correct.

*/
#3 by Your Friend
2002-09-24 01:37:05
I think I triggered a minimum number of votes on this topic because it posted right after I voted on it.

For the record, I voted no because I didn't understand it because there's a fucking K half the places a C should be!!!  Learn English, retard!
#4 by Matthew Gallant
2002-09-24 01:37:52
http://www.truemeaningoflife.com
I don't like this topik.

"Is the internet making people less intelligent?"
"You mean like how video cameras cause thrown objects to hit men in the crotch?"
#5 by Your Friend
2002-09-24 01:39:27
In any fukking kase this game was already made, its kalled Syndikate.  You fukktard!
#6 by Ergo
2002-09-24 01:46:50
I feel like I'm in Amsterdam.

Disgruntled Keeper of The List.

DVDs
#7 by lwf
2002-09-24 01:47:16
has anyone played the iron storm demo? it's pretty cool.

I'd like to debate whether cannibalism ought to be grounds for leniency in murders since it is less wasteful
#8 by bago
2002-09-24 01:52:45
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
That and the mis-application of the word conservative demands at least 2 months in group therapy.

iamelectro
#9 by Xero
2002-09-24 01:53:00
http://novakometa.blogspot.com/
I'm shocked that it actually made it in. Wasn't expecting that.

Also looks like its become a Troll breeding ground so I think i'll abandon it for now.

"Every legend, moreover, contains its residuum of truth, and the root function of language is to control the universe by describing it."
-James Baldwin
#10 by jjohnsen
2002-09-24 01:55:19
http://www.johnsenclan.com
I don't understand.  Is there a game coming out like this, or are we just becoming the idea men for somebody?

I am trying to catch up to Ergo's Dvd collection.
#11 by Matthew Gallant
2002-09-24 01:57:06
http://www.truemeaningoflife.com
And will the game have kopy protektion?

"Is the internet making people less intelligent?"
"You mean like how video cameras cause thrown objects to hit men in the crotch?"
#12 by BobJustBob
2002-09-24 01:58:03
I think he's saying we're all in a simulated jail. And being used as batteries.

So there.
#13 by Funkdrunk
2002-09-24 01:58:37
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
Xero

Also looks like its become a Troll breeding ground so I think i'll abandon it for now.


Don't be like that man.  You have a point, defend it.

Funk.
#14 by Xero
2002-09-24 01:58:47
http://novakometa.blogspot.com/
I forgot that conversations on the 'Crap evolve, that you can't point directly to something you'd like to see discussed, it just has to get there. This was a thinly veiled attempt on my part to get a discussion going on a topic I was curious to see the people on Planetcrap tackle.

"Every legend, moreover, contains its residuum of truth, and the root function of language is to control the universe by describing it."
-James Baldwin
#15 by lwf
2002-09-24 02:01:43
why?

I'd like to debate whether cannibalism ought to be grounds for leniency in murders since it is less wasteful
#16 by None-1a
2002-09-24 02:02:22
You know what would greatly help us tackleing that topic, if we where able to figure out what it was.
#17 by bago
2002-09-24 02:06:18
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
As it stands right now, it seems like a social studies teacher with a hangover threw the sims and 1984 into the paper shredder and let a dozen or so monkeys with a shiny thing fetish paste it back together.

iamelectro
#18 by HiredGoons
2002-09-24 02:09:41
A fetish for shiny cowboy hats?
#19 by Xero
2002-09-24 02:10:07
http://novakometa.blogspot.com/
The Homeland Security Agency, the erosion of citizen's rights, the possible birth of a benign dictatorship or a police state in the United States and the fact that enough people aren't terrified by this fact.

All these things were things I had on my mind, and I wasn't sure how else to bring them onto the Crap except to wrap them up in a game topic.

This is a topic I wanted to have an intelligent discussion on, you know one of the cool discussions you used to have back at college, or that occasionally spring up on the 'Crap. Intelligent discussion with a group of what I consider to be highly intelligent people.


Thanks for having my back Funk.

"Every legend, moreover, contains its residuum of truth, and the root function of language is to control the universe by describing it."
-James Baldwin
#20 by BobJustBob
2002-09-24 02:14:57
Hrm.

So there.
#21 by Your Friend
2002-09-24 02:16:10
I got first post on this topic.  No good can come of it!!
#22 by Whisp
2002-09-24 02:25:03
I blame it on Your Friend.  Plus others are right, usually those types of conversations have to just happen.

Alles in Butter, liebe Mutter!
#23 by Russ
2002-09-24 02:25:32
As long as I get to fly the black helicopters, I'm okay with the future dystopian Amerika.

Just kill it.
#24 by Charles
2002-09-24 02:25:55
www.bluh.org
There should be a law against topics resubmitted after being voted off.

*/
#25 by Funkdrunk
2002-09-24 02:26:23
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
Xero

The Homeland Security Agency, the erosion of citizen's rights, the possible birth of a benign dictatorship or a police state in the United States and the fact that enough people aren't terrified by this fact.


Hell yeah it's scary, but to be honest I'm powerless to do anything about it.  I already have a sleeping disorder, I don't need to keep myself awake thinking about this stuff.

Funk.
#26 by Russ
2002-09-24 02:28:11
Plus, Your Friend gets the Clockwork Orange treatment.

Just kill it.
#27 by Russ
2002-09-24 02:31:14
A police state will only occur if there's money to be made in it. It is still America, after all.

Just kill it.
#28 by Creole Ned
2002-09-24 02:37:26
A profitable police state is good for the economy. Plus the terrorists don't win! Etc. etc.

"I don't bemoan the great paste" - LPMiller
#29 by Funkdrunk
2002-09-24 02:39:17
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
Russ

Plus, Your Friend gets the Clockwork Orange treatment.


I think a bunch of 'crappers would queue up to help apply the treatment.  From applying the metal tongs to keep his eyes open, to putting in the eye drops, projectionist to sound man, each job would get several crapper volunteers.

Funk.
#30 by Your Friend
2002-09-24 02:45:50
Hay!!

 That's not very nice!!
#31 by Warren Marshall
2002-09-24 02:46:41
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Even more punishing would be to simply tie him to a chair and make him watch the movie.

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#32 by TheTrunkDr.
2002-09-24 02:49:16
god this topic is rediculous I don't even know what to say!

Women always see a need for improvment, and men only improve things to either keep them from having to get off of their asses later, or to keep drinks cold.
#33 by Your Friend
2002-09-24 02:50:24
That's about the worst thing I could imagine.  Being strapped in and forced to view a Kubrick marathon.
Starting with Full Metal Jacket (not too bad), moving into The Shining (sucks), Clockwork Orange (Really Sucks), 2001 (Has anyone really ever stayed awake through the whole thing?), Eyes Wide Shut (Sucks times infinity), etc.

Considering Kubrick's complete inability to properly pace a movie, I'd be saved from the mental anguish by quickly falling asleep, but what if they kept jolting me back awake??  !!!!

The horror!! THE HORROR!
#34 by Creole Ned
2002-09-24 02:53:12
Okay, grammar Nazi one more time.

Ridiculous.

Carry on.

Also, [random Your Friend bashing here].

"I don't bemoan the great paste" - LPMiller
#35 by Funkdrunk
2002-09-24 02:53:55
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
Warren

Even more punishing would be to simply tie him to a chair and make him watch the movie.


Hey...

I liked a Clockwork Orange.

Funk.

/me wonders what that means....
#36 by Bailey
2002-09-24 02:55:29
Xero

Also looks like its become a Troll breeding ground so I think i'll abandon it for now.

Hey, you wanted the puppy bad enough to ask twice. If you can't learn to take care of it, then I'm going to put it in a sack and throw it in the river.

Ossified for your pleasure.
#37 by Creole Ned
2002-09-24 02:55:34
I liked 2001. It even came with a handy built-in intermission.

"I don't bemoan the great paste" - LPMiller
#38 by Your Friend
2002-09-24 02:58:17
The entire movie is like one big intermission, but who needs 9 hours to go to the bathroom and get more popcorn?
#39 by lwf
2002-09-24 02:58:37
apparently if read the book before watching the movie, it's quite good.

I'd like to debate whether cannibalism ought to be grounds for leniency in murders since it is less wasteful
#40 by lwf
2002-09-24 02:58:56
if *you

I'd like to debate whether cannibalism ought to be grounds for leniency in murders since it is less wasteful
#41 by Your Friend
2002-09-24 03:02:16
I've never read the book but I'm guessing I could read it cover to cover in less time than it takes to watch the movie.
#42 by bago
2002-09-24 03:09:25
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Alright! Pseudo-Intellectual conversations with semi-informed yet smugly self righteous college students! I LOVE THOSE!


LIKE I LOVE THE SWEET EBMRACE OF DEATH!

iamelectro
#43 by Russ
2002-09-24 03:18:19
I like about half of Kubrick's movies, but not because of his direction. It was the performance of the lead actor or a key actor that made them good for me. Examples: Malcolm McDowell in Clockwork, Jack Nicholson in Shining, R. Lee Ermey in FMJ. The best actors in 2001 Space Odyssey were the apes at the beginning.

For Xero's benefit, I"ll give a serious comment about his concerns for the future. I don't see us going to a police state anytime soon. There's just too many things that would make it really difficult to implement. Too much wide open space to police, too much cultural and political diversity to allow anyone that much power, too much of the population with firearms that they won't give up, etc. I think it would take something truly catastrophic to cause a police state to arise in the US. Something like a countrywide disease epidemic, asteroid strike, or aliens dropping from the skies.

Just kill it.
#44 by Desiato
2002-09-24 03:24:57
desiato_hotblack@hotmail.com http://www.spew2.com/
Sounds like Your Friend could use some ultraviolence, real savage-like.

Get him, my dr00gs!

"If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominos will fall like a house of cards... checkmate." - Zap Branigan
#45 by HiredGoons
2002-09-24 03:28:12
Bailey

Hey, you wanted the puppy bad enough to ask twice. If you can't learn to take care of it, then I'm going to put it in a sack and throw it in the river.


You owe me a new keyboard.
#46 by OwenButler
2002-09-24 03:35:27
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
#33 Mr Nutty,

Considering Kubrick's complete inability to properly pace a movie

You don't like the pace of Kubrick's movies, therefore he can't pace a movie?
#47 by Xero
2002-09-24 03:41:26
http://novakometa.blogspot.com/
Eyes Wide Shut was bad, and taste is subjective, maybe 2001, Apocalypse Now and the Shining didn't age well enough to be relevant to your generation, but can you tell me exactly what you don't like about them.

"Every legend, moreover, contains its residuum of truth, and the root function of language is to control the universe by describing it."
-James Baldwin
#48 by crash
2002-09-24 03:48:11
anyone here still think the second amendment's a bad idea?

kthx plz drive thru

By this time tomorrow we can be doing BODY SHOTS off HOOKERS in some MEXICAN HELLHOLE
#49 by Russ
2002-09-24 04:03:57
You're not calling Apocalypse Now a Kubrick movie are you? If you're asking Your Friend what exactly he didn't like about those movies, he already answered you. He thinks they suck. Is any more explanation really necessary? Eyes Wide Shut won't get many defenders here. I think Barry Lyndon is close to being even worse.

Just kill it.
#50 by Russ
2002-09-24 04:05:20
crash:
anyone here still think the second amendment's a bad idea?

someone here definitely will. you're baiting, right?

Just kill it.
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