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Gaming Vintage: What Were The Best Years?
June 27th 2002, 18:20 CEST by Fallon

Every year some game gets enough Game of the Year awards in magazines, giving the publishers an excuse to repackage, re-release, add an extra mod (and a tacky badge). But this annual random "best" game is rarely representative of a generally good gaming year.

What, in your probably-not-humble opinion, has all round been the best year for PC gaming, and what were the games that made it so?
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#1 by _Fury_
2002-06-27 18:22:41
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2002

Research has been shown to cause cancer in laboratory rats.
#2 by _Fury_
2002-06-27 18:22:56
ajhill@wi.rr.com
But only until 2003

Research has been shown to cause cancer in laboratory rats.
#3 by Leslie Nassar
2002-06-27 18:24:48
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_Fury_ nailed it.  EOD!  EOD!

i like monkeys.  are you a monkey?
#4 by Bezzy
2002-06-27 18:29:46
painberry@hotmail.com http://www.antifactory.org
Last ECTS, it was depressing to see Molyneux sweep the board with "game of the year" awards. You could see on his face that he was irritated that people were kneejerkingly giving out awards. You could tell that he knew he didn't deserve it. B&W, when released, was not half the game he wanted it to be.

As he walked back and forth through the crowds surrounding the irritatingly obnoxious "bits girls" who gave out the awards, we whispered 'deaaaaaaath' in his ear (as the voice in B&W often does). He didn't get it and thought we were out to get him... party because everyone who did it fucked up the joke and shouted 'death' then started rolling about laughing at their own ineptitude.

Luckily someone who won a singular award gave a short speech: "Zhank you evreebodee. Dis all goes to show, ve are one big gay european community!" I'm a fag, you're a fag, we all scream for faggy fags.

Whatever year Tie Fighter & Doom came out, that was a good year for gaming.

The best way to create an award winning game is to write the acceptance speech first.
#5 by Greg
2002-06-27 18:36:55
1932 was a good year for games.

Ah, to be naked and covered in Doritos 3Ds!
#6 by Fugazi(werking)
2002-06-27 18:43:46
Any year Epyx released a game.

"Good health" is merely the slowest rate at which one can die.
#7 by Ergo
2002-06-27 18:47:30
1988--

Dungeon Master was released for the Amiga.

"Conductor Fist says the next stop is your face! Choo! Choo!"
#8 by LoneStar
2002-06-27 19:07:19
cwcraig64@hotmail.com
1996..........The year of the Quake!

Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one
#9 by Charles
2002-06-27 19:07:46
www.bluh.org
The early nineties.  SNES.  91 especially.  

But the other half of me says that 2000 ruled all, since it saw the release of Deus Ex.

But... does it matter?  Last year sucked, I know that much.

Bailey:  Beep beep, motherfucker.
#10 by Matt Davis
2002-06-27 19:08:37
http://looroll.com
There hasn't been a best year yet, and I'm still holding my breath waiting for it

This week I will be mostly playing Warcraft 3
#11 by Charles
2002-06-27 19:11:54
www.bluh.org
2003.  Deus Ex, Thief 3...  good enough for me!

Bailey:  Beep beep, motherfucker.
#12 by EvilDolemite
2002-06-27 19:12:42
mthyng@sweetser.org
I really can't narrow it down to just *one* year in particular, but from 1993-1996 there were some *great* games released.  Duke3D, Doom, DoomII, TIE Fighter, Diablo, Wacraft I/II, Quake, Full Throttle, The Dig, Daggerfall, and many more.  Many of these games were beginnings to mega-huge franchises that are still viable today.  The early 1990's was really when computer game graphics and sound took off.  Suddenly, things on-screen actually looked like a close approximation of their real-life counterparts.  Voices sounded realistic.  Levels were "3D", or close enough.

Oops, I also forgot the Descent series, Crusader: No Remorse, Magic Carpet, Hi-Octane, Master of Magic, SimCity 2000 (was that pre-1993??)...

Mmm, more carnage...
#13 by EvilDolemite
2002-06-27 19:14:13
mthyng@sweetser.org
Ooops, System Shock..was that 94?

Mmm, more carnage...
#14 by EvilDolemite
2002-06-27 19:16:21
mthyng@sweetser.org
Now that I think of it, 1996 netted us Warcraft II, Diablo, Duke Nukem 3D, Quake, and Daggerfall.  Shit.

Mmm, more carnage...
#15 by Creole Ned
2002-06-27 19:20:51
I want a sequel to Crusader: No Remorse.

SimCity 2000 came out in early '94.

Dungeon Master was probably the most fun I had on my Atari ST. At the time I was amazed so much game could fit onto a single double-sided disk. :)

What's that blue thing doing here?
#16 by DougS
2002-06-27 19:23:03
I can't nail it down to one year but the early 90-92 were the best. We had Wolfenstein 3D, Keen, Duke, Indiana Jones, Monkey Island, Ultima Underworld. Games were more diverse and shooters were still a novel concept.
#17 by Ergo
2002-06-27 19:28:18
Dungeon Master is about the most fun I've ever had with a computer game. The day I got it, I stayed up all night pplaying it rather than writing a term paper that was due the next day.

"Conductor Fist says the next stop is your face! Choo! Choo!"
#18 by EvilDolemite
2002-06-27 19:29:58
mthyng@sweetser.org
Crusader with a modified Diablo II engine (1024 * 768) would be an instant buy for me.

Mmm, more carnage...
#19 by jjohnsen
2002-06-27 19:31:20
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This year has been pretty good so far.  Last year sucked.

I remember when my friend got Dungeon Master.  We spent a whole weekend playing while his mother would come down to check on us and make sure there were no satanistic images.

The incredible insights you've given on many topics have brightened all of our lives and touched us in ways we can never fully describe.
#20 by UncleJeet
2002-06-27 19:42:40
I'd say, ballpark estimate here, but really anything from 1980-2002 were pretty good years.

    I'd rather do things this way:

    Sierra: 1980 up to, but not including, King's Quest 5.

     LucasArts: 1982-present except for all the shitty console games and any space game up to, but not including, X-Wing vs. Tie Fighter

     Origin: 1983 up to, but not including, Ultima 8 and also excluding all the shitty games like Strike Commander
    
     Looking Glass: 1992-1999

     Ion Storm Austin: Deus Ex

    Plus all the other great games I haven't mentioned.  id's Wolfenstein, Wolfenstein in 2.5D as Doom, Doom in full 3D as Quake, Quake in full 3D again with a story, Quake in full 3D with curved surfaces and no single player, Quake with bump maps as Wolfenstein.  Also, Mario.

West of House
You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.


I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
#21 by UncleJeet
2002-06-27 19:43:33
slash b

I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
#22 by Ergo
2002-06-27 19:43:34
You like Mario?

"Conductor Fist says the next stop is your face! Choo! Choo!"
#23 by UncleJeet
2002-06-27 19:45:17
Does it show?

I want to dress you up in my love

I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
#24 by Ergo
2002-06-27 19:46:08
The dress I'm wearing is already quite lovely, thank you.

"Conductor Fist says the next stop is your face! Choo! Choo!"
#25 by Brigandier
2002-06-27 20:22:45
I remember fondly the days when X-Wing and Tie Fighter came out, then Wolf 3d and Doom. The crazy thing is that I had them all on 3.5" disks. Even "Rise of the Triad" was mindless fun.

Then 7th Guest came out and people with CD-Roms had a cool little toy to show off.

Ah, those were the days.
#26 by Dinglehoffen
2002-06-27 20:32:52
Fanny Fungus
The good ol' days:

1) Fallout 1 and 2

2) Doom 2, Quake 1

3) Thief 1

"Cause you'll be LIVIN' IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER EATIN' GOVERNMENT CHEESE!"
#27 by BobJustBob
2002-06-27 20:45:13
Creole Ned, they did have a sequel to that. It was called Crusader: No Regret or something extremely close.

So there.
#28 by crash
2002-06-27 20:47:15

What, in your probably-not-humble opinion, has all round been the best year for PC gaming, and what were the games that made it so?

shot in the dark, but i have a feeling this "best year for PC gaming" was the first year (different for everyone) where:

1. you had enough hardware to run mostly everything
2. you had enough time to play mostly everything
3. you were still new enough to gaming that it was still exciting and new
4. you weren't old enough to gaming to have seen it all yet and become jaded and bitter

for me, that year was 1997. the convergence of QW and afforable mainstream 3D acceleration were the highlights--and we're still riding the wave that started to form five years ago, honestly. there have been blips of greatness outside that time, and stunning works of gaming entertainment goodness, but on the whole, 97 was the best year i can remember overall. for me.

Whoops, sorry, was my common sense showing again? -HoseWater
#29 by EvilDolemite
2002-06-27 20:47:40
mthyng@sweetser.org
I think he means a modern sequel.  No Regret was almost an expansion pack.  Same gameplay, same graphics engine.

Mmm, more carnage...
#30 by EvilDolemite
2002-06-27 20:48:23
mthyng@sweetser.org
When I saw GLQuake and Quake II on a Voodoo Graphics card was a defining gaming moment for me.  1997.

Mmm, more carnage...
#31 by Mister Nutty
2002-06-27 20:52:35
Noobs.  I remember seeing the NES and thinking, on seeing Super Mario Bros:

"Wow! those graphics!! its just like a cartoon!!"

Hardware accelerated 3D is all well and good, but the shift from the Atari 2600 to the NES, IMO, was more impactful.

Smashing!
#32 by skalmanxl
2002-06-27 21:22:43
Vintage gaming eh? Well, games are the best now (but most often overshadowed by bad and hyped shit). For me, games weren't better back in the days, just more simple and not full of fluff.

*Welcome to the land of the digital*
#33 by Fugazi(werking)
2002-06-27 21:57:13
Altered Beast, Marble Madness and Stunt Car Racer on the Amiga blew my mind when I saw them.
I couldn't believe the graphics and the sound. It made my PC speaker/CGA setup look like shit.

"Good health" is merely the slowest rate at which one can die.
#34 by Ergo
2002-06-27 22:11:04
Shadow of the Beast on the Amiga was the shiznit.

"Conductor Fist says the next stop is your face! Choo! Choo!"
#35 by Mister Nutty
2002-06-27 22:14:56
Shadow of the Beast looked better than most games that came out 5 years later.

Its a shame that it was such a horrible game though.  The controls (or lack thereof) still give me nightmares.

On the other hand, Cinemaware made some great looking games that were actually fun to play.  Defender of the Crown, Wings, etc.  Here's hoping their return to the industry is a success!

Smashing!
#36 by jafd
2002-06-27 22:18:27
Sloppy Topics: What Is The Best Question To Ask Without Any Context What So Ever?

For me, "now" is always the "best" time.

"You go to HELL! You go to HELL and you DIE!!"
#37 by Mister Nutty
2002-06-27 22:30:05
Best year for gaming is 2004.  That's when we'll see:

Longsword Sniper 2
Wheel of Time 2: More Fairyball Shootin'
Duke Nukem, starring in "Forever Still Ain't Ready But Here's Some More Mindshare Shovelware"

Smashing!
#38 by UncleJeet
2002-06-27 22:32:26
Shit.  I completely forgot about Cinemaware.  Maybe it's because I hated them for slapping Amiga screenshots on the back of EGA and CGA versions of their PC ports.  Bastards.  And curse the local software store for always having the demo Amiga machine running a loop of their titles.  With sound.  Bastards.

Only YOU can stop the Interplanetary Spread of Jet-Propelled NAZI FACISM!

I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
#39 by hangedmanAG
2002-06-27 22:33:13
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Some of the Amiga Cinemaware games were fun (Wings, Lords of the Rising Sun, Rocket Ranger) but some blew (Sinbad).  I think Defender of the Crown belongs firmly in the crap column and I don't see how anyone can have fond memories of it.

sigh...god, I miss my Amiga 2000

there is no emoticon for my spite
#40 by Ergo
2002-06-27 22:35:34
Heretic!!

/me catapults hangedmanAG at castle wall

"Conductor Fist says the next stop is your face! Choo! Choo!"
#41 by hangedmanAG
2002-06-27 22:45:53
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C'mon, DOC was a big box of inuit crap.  Lords of the Rising Sun owned it in every way.  Even the princess was cuter.

there is no emoticon for my spite
#42 by Ed
2002-06-27 22:53:35
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1989.

Why?  16-bit consoles arrived in America.  That began my 5-year long fanzine career.  Those consoles are still my favorites of all time.

-Ed

i need assertion devils inside my eye won't let up any motion
i need a surgeon devils inside won't cut me any slack
#43 by Mister Nutty
2002-06-27 22:54:51
I liked Defender of the Crown.  Joustin', Siegin', Warrin'.

Hoorah!

I can still remember the DOTC theme song and I haven't played it since...damn quite a long time ago
(played Amiga version on my A500).

Smashing!
#44 by Bailey
2002-06-27 23:03:51
The year Prince of Persia came out.

Recognize the weighty presence of a two-tonne ego.
#45 by Ergo
2002-06-27 23:15:33
Lords of the Rising Sun was better, but I still loved DotC.

"Conductor Fist says the next stop is your face! Choo! Choo!"
#46 by Warren Marshall
2002-06-27 23:35:55
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The Quake1/Quake2 era.  That was the best time for me ... so far anyway.  I never had so much fun making maps and taking part in the community as I did back then.

And for those mentioning consoles ... the topic specifically says "PC gaming".  gg!

"It's pretty common for pussies, dumbasses, and their families to blame their problems on vague influences like the media and society. The truth is, fuck you."
#47 by UncleJeet
2002-06-27 23:37:50
The influnce of rotund Italian plumbers crosses all boundries - including console and PC!

Okey Dokey!

I'm fighting terrorism by playing violent video games!
#48 by Mister Nutty
2002-06-27 23:43:23
Well, the topic is WRONG!

Smashing!
#49 by DougS
2002-06-27 23:56:39
Marble Madness on the Amiga sucked for me. I was an Ace on the Arcade version but I could never get the timing down for the Amiga version. Plus the graphics weren't quite the same.l
#50 by Creole Ned
2002-06-28 00:12:34
Bob, EvilDolemite is right -- I have both Crusader: No Remorse and Crusader: No Regret (sadly I cannot play either now thanks to the evil voodoo Origin used to insure neither game would work under any flavor of Windows). I want a modern sequel. It doesn't need to have the latest bells 'n whistles, just look good and play the same as the others. It was a fun little universe to romp in.

What's that blue thing doing here?
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