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Tecmo: the GOD Games of E3 2002?
May 22nd 2002, 15:48 CEST by m0nty

With the demise of GOD Games, the rockstar-wannabe dev team who were subsumed into the Take Two corporate juggernaut last year after causing quite an uproar over their reliance on Booth Babes at last year's E3 conference, many gamers have been wondering if the industry would ever see such rampant sexism and misogyny again. Japanese developers Tecmo have staked their claim at this year's E3, with the new title in their Dead Or Alive series providing far too many opportunities for breast-based marketing.

The competition run in conjunction with IGN to choose their E3 Booth Babes - based on body measurements, talent agency publicity shots and banal slobbering from one Douglass C. Perry - was bad enough. Dead Or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball, planned for Xbox release only, bears little resemblance to previous titles in the fighting series. The DOA series has always been known for its sophisticated physics modelling features on its female fighters, so it is no secret why they chose volleyball as the sport in which to cross over. The first promotional video shows that the only way to recognise that it is a DOA game is the familiar breast-jiggling technology. While reports are sketchy at the moment, since the press conference was on the 22nd, Eurogamer had this to say:

Not really content to stop there, we've had Tecmo's two major announcements. Ninja Gaiden we knew about (and based on the footage so far will be buying as soon as humanly possible), but Dead or Alive Volleyball we did not. Beach volleyball. The Dead or Alive girls. In bikinis. On the Xbox. Now if that's not a killer app, then it's a Channel 5 style "sex sells" approach to gaming which we have absolutely no problem with. Bring it on! The footage of this doing the rounds is a must-see.

I suppose it's pretty hard to create a beach volleyball game without including 95% naked women, given that the professional circuit stands accused itself of using the players as sexualised objects to boost attendances. The official licensed game manages to do it without too much exploitation or gratuitous mammary material.

Apart from the egregious absence of midgets, all the ingredients are there for an E3 Booth Babe experience to rival anything GOD's Mike Wilson could think up. Will Tecmo have the hit booth of the show? Will it be picketed by geektivists with a social conscience? Will the models be paid an allowance for disinfectant after hundreds of grubby hands are pawed all over their bikinied bodies? How many of you will enjoy the video - and the eventual game - and not even worry about the sexist implications?
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#1 by Leslie Nassar
2002-05-22 15:51:02
http://departmentofinternets.com
Oh no, women in bikinis!  How dare they be in videogames.  Everyone knows they're the domain of big gay soldiers in big gay uniforms firing big gay guns.

i like monkeys.  are you a monkey?
#2 by Matt Davis
2002-05-22 15:57:18
http://looroll.com
It's virtual exploitation! and it's going to sell phenomenally well, finally they realise why the DOA series has sold so well and have decided to go head to head against sega volleyball.

Someone should tell Eurogamer to stop using British humour quote as well, half of the UK can't even get channel 5.

By the way...wasn't barbie one of the best selling games of 2001?
#3 by Ashiran
2002-05-22 16:00:24
I'd hate to sound more gay then usual but is it just me or are those boothbabes not nearly as attractive is everybody says they are? I mean when I saw the lineup for the Xbox promotion I was like. "Eeeuw!"

"...so I can send him a dead dog with the word "YOU" taped to its face." - Cliff Yablonski
#4 by Matt Davis
2002-05-22 16:02:03
http://looroll.com
well the XBox is hardly the most gorgeous machine, so the boothbabes don't need to try so hard.
#5 by Duality
2002-05-22 16:03:23
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Ashiran: Its like those roadside strip joints.  They can't afford the real good looking women, so they settle for the white trash that are willing to wear anything for attention.

But he threatened them with Toronto Gosh!
#6 by Ashiran
2002-05-22 16:07:36
The Xbox booth babes in question.

"...so I can send him a dead dog with the word "YOU" taped to its face." - Cliff Yablonski
#7 by Matt Davis
2002-05-22 16:08:25
http://looroll.com
Better than big fat sweaty drooling geeks though.
#8 by Morn
2002-05-22 16:10:47
morn@planetcrap.com http://hmans.net
What? They aren't even naked. I'm not buying an Xbox.

Hendrik "Morn" Mans • morn@planetcrap.com • admin/coder/lover/kraut
#9 by m0nty
2002-05-22 16:33:09
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
These [url=http://www.gamespy.com/e32002/gcn/beachspikers/screenshots.shtml]screenshots[url] from Beach Spikers on the GameCube are slightly less exploitative than the DOA images, although not by much. At least they don't show cleavage.
#10 by Trunks
2002-05-22 16:33:27
I think Tecmo was just threatened by the possibility of Sega taking over the beach volleyball babe market.  Then again, this shouldn't be too big a surprise, considering ther was a DoA tennis game released on the PS2 some time ago.  Love Smash!
#11 by m0nty
2002-05-22 16:33:44
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Let me try that again.

These screenshots from Beach Spikers on the GameCube are slightly less exploitative than the DOA images, although not by much. At least they don't show cleavage.
#12 by MCorleone
2002-05-22 16:36:12
My God, those XBox chicks are awful.  If you're going to pay for hot women to sell your product, make sure you at least get the hot women part right.

Build a man a fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of the night.  Light a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.
#13 by snowcrash-22
2002-05-22 16:43:42
snowcrash22@excite.com
I think you are missing the point to the Female Volleyball Games.

It lies within the Dynamic Sand Modeling(DSM) and what these adavances mean to the FPS-WWII beach invasion industry.
#14 by Matthew Gallant
2002-05-22 16:44:47
http://www.truemeaningoflife.com
Somebody post the 1P WIN screenshot.

Marketing is a crutch for mediocrity and a handicap to excellence.
#15 by Gabe
2002-05-22 17:02:11
http://www.dartpublishing.com
The one where really everyone wins?
#16 by Leslie Nassar
2002-05-22 17:29:21
http://departmentofinternets.com
m0nty, have you ever seen beach volleyball?  How exactly are those screenshots exploitative when they're representative of the actual sport?  Perhaps your point is that women's beach volleyball in general is exploitative?

i like monkeys.  are you a monkey?
#17 by Leslie Nassar
2002-05-22 17:31:30
http://departmentofinternets.com
If women insist on playing sport, they should do so in a dress, pregnant, while cooking, and where's my god damn martini?  I work like a dog for this?!

i like monkeys.  are you a monkey?
#18 by MCorleone
2002-05-22 17:34:12
And wear a burqa - COVER THAT FLESH!

Build a man a fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of the night.  Light a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.
#19 by Nathan McKenzie
2002-05-22 17:48:33
Those aren't booth babes.  Those are booth people.

Sort of like sand people, but with slightly higher voices when they bleat and honk.

Yick.

Nathan
#20 by m0nty
2002-05-22 17:56:51
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I know it's a matter of degrees, but if you take Kerri-Anne Pottharst and Natalie Cook, the gold medallists in the women's beach volleyball at the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games, you will see that their "proportions" are far more realistic than the DOA girls. Also, they aren't wearing postage-stamp-sized string bikinis.
#21 by Trunks
2002-05-22 18:05:24
While the string bikini bit may be true, I have seen several women's beach volleyball games on television where the women wear outfits like those seen from the Sega game.  I have no issues with Sega's game, as is does look like they're trying to make some sort of effort of looking accurate.  Tecmo, meanwhile, seems to have no inclinations of the sort.
#22 by m0nty
2002-05-22 18:09:20
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
This all reminds me of that sketch on MAD TV guest-starring Jennifer Aniston, in which they had an interactive sitcom with the usual stereotypical nuclear family, but viewers could ring up and suggest storylines, and give electric shocks to the actors when they didn't obey. It ended up quickly being a bikini volleyball game in the loungeroom starring Jennifer and her teen friends, being shocked if they didn't jiggle on cue.
#23 by Max
2002-05-22 18:09:31
http://massivebraincase.org/
M0nty James Au.

No, really.  The more exploitative these people are, the more of a splash they make at the show, the more pictures show up online, the more articles written and discussions discussed, the more games sold.  There's no downside for the publishers here.  I'm surprised those girls are wearing as much as they are, unless they're going to suddenly utilize the tear-away feature of their outfits once the slobbering geek density reaches critical mass.

I've no idea what I'm doing out of bed.
#24 by Arach
2002-05-22 18:10:05
http://www.ng-gamers.com/
Ohmygosh! Heaven forbid Mr Modeler would use the scale tool with hetro abandon and hand tweak *giggle* the bone animation to maximize "realism".

Wont someone think of the Japanese schoolgirls in Hentai games, they cry for justice! Never fear m0nty will aid in their plight!

I will state for the record that I infact like boobies, even ones made out of triangles.

Fap Fap Fap...

nG!
#25 by Foodbunny
2002-05-22 18:10:37
foodbunny@attbi.com http://www.foodbunny.com
I quite enjoy playing volleyball.  Indoors or outdoors, on grass or sand.  But I have never once played volleyball in a bikini and I don't think I ever will.  You see, there's lots of falling down, and if I'm going to fall down I want to have something covering my skin to prevent abrasions.  Just like I wouldn't play soccer in a bikini.

Anyway, this looks more like a 2P WIN! to me.

If I have to fuck a garbage can I'm gonna fuck it in the ass.
#26 by m0nty
2002-05-22 18:13:55
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Oh jeez, the PC clickthroughs on search requests from "girls kissing" will go through the roof.
#27 by Matt Perkins
2002-05-22 18:16:20
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Not to mention falling down and falling out of your bikini, fb.

We can all agree (I've decided we can) that the Sega version is more realistic looking, but the Tecmo version will probably sell a lot more.  This is of course disregarding some natural disaster like either is a lot of fun to play.

Why is this?  We know the answer...  guys don't use their brains when it comes to boobies, virtual or not.

LPMiller - "Really, I'm just a get along kinda a guy, all about the love."
#28 by MCorleone
2002-05-22 18:17:35
What's the deal with butters, anyone planning on buying SOF2 and keeping butters up?

Build a man a fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of the night.  Light a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.
#29 by MCorleone
2002-05-22 18:19:45
It all comes down to whether 3dRealms is planning to add their annual E3 retrospectives with 3 256MB CF cards worth of booth babe loving to their page this year.

Build a man a fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of the night.  Light a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.
#30 by Max
2002-05-22 18:20:45
http://massivebraincase.org/
This reminds me of something CliffyB said back in the Unreal.org days, probably 18 months to 2 years prior to Unreal's release.  Asked about the player model of the lead character (which, being female, at that time seemed a big deal, Lara notwithstanding), he described her as being slender, well-built, and "with polygon breasts gently swaying."  I'm sure Morn or someone will correct me as that's from memory.  For some reason that description has always cracked me up.

And now Tecmo are commercializing that beautiful turn of phrase! Bastards!

I've no idea what I'm doing out of bed.
#31 by Leslie Nassar
2002-05-22 18:20:56
http://departmentofinternets.com
EB has a copy waiting for me, MCorleone.  It'll be running the retail version tomorrow or friday.

i like monkeys.  are you a monkey?
#32 by Max
2002-05-22 18:22:24
http://massivebraincase.org/
McC - I can't imagine they wouldn't have their booth babe feature; I'm pretty sure that the production of that is the highlight of Joe Siegler's year.

I've no idea what I'm doing out of bed.
#33 by The_Joker
2002-05-22 18:25:29
http://www.jackinworld.com
Personally, I don't really like playing games with such babes in them. Because let's face it, I'm never going to finish the game if I have to whack off every 5 minutes. So I stay away from them. I bet it's a good decision for my health too.

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration.
"I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka
#34 by Arach
2002-05-22 18:31:12
http://www.ng-gamers.com/
It's safe to say Sonic would be giving Amy a call on the way back from the Volleyball. Splitscreen act-shun bebay!

OT: Gamespy's Doom preview has the most stupid E3 photos EVAR. Why?

Burger King - Where ALL Dragonmasters eat!
#35 by The_Joker
2002-05-22 18:38:07
http://www.jackinworld.com
#25 by Foodbunny:

If you ever do end up playing in a bikini, don't forget to email me some pictures.

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration.
"I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka
#36 by The_Joker
2002-05-22 18:58:09
http://www.jackinworld.com
AAAW YEAH!!!

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration.
"I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka
#37 by Arach
2002-05-22 19:16:31
http://www.ng-gamers.com/
Question: What's the deal with the Antialiasing or lack there of? Don't tell me there acutally running at that resolution!?! Something seems amiss.

Burger King - Where ALL Dragonmasters eat!
#38 by Duality
2002-05-22 19:19:28
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Its the transition from TV -=> 72dpi images on a computer monitor, I presume.

But he threatened them with Toronto Gosh!
#39 by m0nty
2002-05-22 19:21:50
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
This IRC log from #planetcrap is instructional. (Don't worry, I asked permission first, and I have omitted extraneous lines.)

*** Foodbunny (~foodbunny@12-237-156-226.client.attbi.com) has joined #planetcrap
*** ChanServ sets mode: +o Foodbunny
<m0nty> hi Foodie!
<Foodbunny> Hello :)
<m0nty> I'm trying to fight the good fight, but these fanbois love the polygonal boobies too much.
<m0nty> up the sisterhood!
<Foodbunny> I'm not even going to try
<m0nty> this is half the problem, of course.
<m0nty> No one questions why heaving breasts on volleyball players is exploitative.
<Foodbunny> I don't have objections to the breasts.  I have objections to the string bikinis.
<m0nty> yes.
<wzrd|WorkDammit> I don't have an objections to breasts either
<m0nty> I have objection to the lovingly rendered closeups of heaving cleavages.
<Foodbunny> There are very, very few things I would do in a string bikini and playing a sport where I fall down a lot and have to hit a ball over my head would not be one of them.
<Foodbunny> If they were wearing a tankini like actual volleyball players wear I wouldn't care.  Even if they all had super-sized g cups equipt with their own anti-gravity fields.
<m0nty> the official game has those type of tops.
<m0nty> but the Tecmo game doesn't have a licence.
<Trunks> so everyone just get the Sega game instead!  support the lesser of the two evils!
<Foodbunny> But since I make it a rule to ignore anything with Dead or Alive on it I can't really be bothered with their volleyball game
<m0nty> they might as well make a jump rope sim.
<m0nty> there would be even more chances for jiggling.
<Foodbunny> Hahahaha
<m0nty> or maybe a trampolining sim.
<Foodbunny> Dead or Alive Double Dutch
<Trunks> hopscotch!
<metsu> so i guess it's not a girl game
<Foodbunny> Slow motion running
<Trunks> don't forget to add EXTREME to the beginning of everything
<m0nty> I'd like to see a DOA character do a breast cancer commercial.
<m0nty> "Please, get your bazongas checked by a health care professional today."
<Trunks> so, how long til someone takes the Doom 3 engine and uses it for jiggleness?
<bishop> already been done.
<Post-It> they should just get on with it & make a XXX porn DOA game. I mean, that's where it's headed.
<m0nty> "Because when you've got funbags as big as these puppies, you have to take care of them."
<metsu> i wonder what rating the doa volleyball game will get
<bishop> I shudder to think of the DOA fanfic.
#40 by Matthew Gallant
2002-05-22 19:26:07
http://www.truemeaningoflife.com
I hope there's a party hat cheat code for Doom III.

Marketing is a crutch for mediocrity and a handicap to excellence.
#41 by Sgt Hulka
2002-05-22 19:47:23
For better or worse, what we are seeing happens with most entertainment.  Can't make good TV shows? Put boobies on the shows and promos (VIP, Baywatch) .  Can't make a solid movie, put sex into it (Tomb Raider). Same with magazines (Maxim), our music (Britney) and even comics (Too many to list) .  

Games are no different.  There will always be an element which resorts to this cheap, exploitive marketing.  And yes, I think it's cheap and exploitive.

I've attended E3 shows where Mike Wilson has put together insipid diplays of this in action.  I've also found out that many times publishers and developers are more interested in taking you to titty bars than discussing technology.  It's an odd mix for me since I don't normally do thing like that, but many of you must.  

Perhaps it says something about the society we live in?  Why yes.. Yes it does, but it's not something I actively participate in, nor support.

....Don't be Left with the chimps. Evolve with us...
#42 by Arach
2002-05-22 19:48:54
http://www.ng-gamers.com/
...Or a SD Mode ... or Bolt on Mammories.

Burger King - Where ALL Dragonmasters eat!
#43 by The_Joker
2002-05-22 19:52:24
http://www.jackinworld.com
#41 by Sgt Hulka:

You're just like this because you have daughters. Admit it.

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration.
"I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka
#44 by Trunks
2002-05-22 19:55:31
I don't agree with the Maxim comment...while the images of women may be what snag most guys, it genuinuely IS the articles that get most guys to read issue after issue and subscribe.  And I know a considerable amount of women who also like reading Maxim, so it's not all about the boobies in this case.  Hell, my girlfriend's sister gave me a subscription to the mag, and she usually ends up reading the issues before I do.
#45 by MCorleone
2002-05-22 20:04:38
Maxim is Details' inbred, intellectually challenged half-cousin.

Build a man a fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of the night.  Light a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.
#46 by MCorleone
2002-05-22 20:05:30
I also think that m0nty shot himself in the foot while trying to be the PC male feminist by referring to breasts as "fun-bags".

Build a man a fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of the night.  Light a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.
#47 by LPMiller
2002-05-22 20:07:43
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
It's just a lame attempt by monty to get laid, by being the sensitive one.

I believe I can fly......urk.
#48 by Foodbunny
2002-05-22 20:10:36
foodbunny@attbi.com http://www.foodbunny.com
I know girls who read Maxim just to find out what lame-ass pick up lines they are going to be hearing for the next month.

If I have to fuck a garbage can I'm gonna fuck it in the ass.
#49 by m0nty
2002-05-22 20:10:43
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
If there were any single women on PC, your comment might hold some weight, LP.
#50 by The_Joker
2002-05-22 20:12:08
http://www.jackinworld.com
#47:

Yes it is, he should be ashamed of himself. Foodbunny won't fall for that!

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration.
"I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka
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