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Optimisim: Maybe, just this one time?
April 19th 2002, 20:15 CEST by Post-It

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If there is one thing for certain about PlanetCrap, it is that we are a bunch of jaded, cynical assholes. We complain, whine, and bitch about all that is wrong with games. Don't get me wrong, most games deserve it. Most games aren't worth the disc they are printed on. But some are. Hopefully some of these games will be on display at the fast approaching mass orgy of gaming propaganda that is E3. Here, many games will be unveiled to the world, announced, ridiculed, adored, and some *gasp* even played.

This year's E3 has the potential to be one of the best ever. All three consoles are out and moving forward. The PS2 will be showing some of its "last glory" titles as it begins to age, and will try and show off its best titles so as not to look dated. The Gamecube better show something as many gamers have been left in the cold these past few months. Many are hoping for playable versions of Mario, Zelda, and Metroid. Microsoft has been quiet about what it plans on showing for the Xbox at E3. They need to make some big announcements and will hopefully show their "killer" titles for this year.

And let's not forget PC gaming. Hardware wise, the standard is starting to move towards a GeForce3 instead of 2, not to mention more RAM, ROM, & Mhz. AS a result many games based on the newest iteration of engines (Unreal & Doom) will be on display. There are so many FPS in development right now, it's ridiculous. 3rd person perspective games will also be big this year with Lara, BloodRayne, etc. Plus the newest in RPG's (regular and the MMO variety) will be on display. Last year was a big year for RTS so its pickings are a little slim, but there should still be plenty of titles. And who knows maybe some adventure games will even rear their heads. All in all this looks to be biggest and brightest year for gaming since 1998.

With all this, how about a little optimisim? What games are you looking forward to at this year's E3? What game has you really excited and eager to play? Are there any games giving you feeling you had when you were 12 and you pulled open a brand new game and you smelled that fresh/stale air that always comes with shrink wrapped electronic media? What game will make you think, "This is why I play games!"

Is there one single game coming that will make you forget to be jaded and just have fun again?
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#1 by Bailey
2002-04-19 20:15:50
I hate ASCII art.

Stuck flat smack dab in the middle of a century with nothing to lose.
#2 by m0nty
2002-04-19 20:17:10
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
As Chella used to say: Gaming is good again.

/me sniffs into his hanky
#3 by Fugazi(werking)
2002-04-19 20:17:14
D'accord.

"Good health" is merely the slowest rate at which one can die.
#4 by Fugazi(werking)
2002-04-19 20:18:03
That "d'accord" was for Bailey.

"Good health" is merely the slowest rate at which one can die.
#5 by Leslie Nassar
2002-04-19 20:19:50
http://departmentofinternets.com
last glory?  dated?  last i checked, the PS2 was outselling the x-box, gc, an dc combined.

i like monkeys.  are you a monkey?
#6 by Hugin
2002-04-19 20:20:09
lmccain@nber.org
I'm enjoying the heck out of Dungeon Siege right now.  I fully expect to love Soul Calibur 2 whenever it comes out.

I'm always waiting for someone to make a magic updated Elite, the attempts thus far haven't quite done it for me. And TA2.  And MOO3.

I guess I'm just not all that jaded.  The only genre that would take a near miracle to get me excited about nowadays would be FPSs, I'm deathly sick of them.  And Online gaming continues to make me sad, but that's the fault of people, not the games.
#7 by Charles
2002-04-19 20:21:12
www.bluh.org
I seriously down anything at this E3 can match up to the unveiling of MGS2 at E32k.

Bailey:  Beep beep, motherfucker.
#8 by Bailey
2002-04-19 20:21:37
Nova has downs.

Stuck flat smack dab in the middle of a century with nothing to lose.
#9 by Charles
2002-04-19 20:23:59
www.bluh.org
And on that topic, I've heard rumors of an unveiling of a new MGS at this years E3... which might match up.

Still.  Metroid is NOT something I'm looking forward to seeing.  In fact, I'm glad I'm not going to E3 this year... cause I'd hate to see what I'd do if metroid was there, playable.

FPS.  What the FUCK were they thinking.

Bailey:  Beep beep, motherfucker.
#10 by m0nty
2002-04-19 20:24:11
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I notice Petri is on a panel at E3.
#11 by crash
2002-04-19 20:24:44

Is there one single game coming that will make you forget to be jaded and just have fun again?

ask me after they're out. until then, they're just hype and promises--and those make me more jaded than any daikatana-style release ever has or will.

- if you can laugh at it, you can live with it.
- "Hey, how 'bout this: fuck you." -LPMiller
#12 by Leslie Nassar
2002-04-19 20:25:26
http://departmentofinternets.com
I seriously down anything at this E3 can match up to the unveiling of MGS2 at E32k.

which just goes to show no matter how good a game looks on the floor at E3, there's always a chance it'll be a pile of crap when it hits the shelves.  optimism?  look elsewhere.

i like monkeys.  are you a monkey?
#13 by m0nty
2002-04-19 20:26:27
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
Scott's on a panel too.

Questions to be answered will include: What were your influences? How do you continue to innovate? How do you build innovation into sequels? How do you see the current market? What are your plans for the future?
#14 by Charles
2002-04-19 20:26:28
www.bluh.org
I liked MGS2, so take your whiny "I didn't get to play as Snake" somewhere else.

Bailey:  Beep beep, motherfucker.
#15 by Bailey
2002-04-19 20:29:35
Dammit m0nty, you have to go there and starting shouting "When can we expect to see DNF?!"

Stuck flat smack dab in the middle of a century with nothing to lose.
#16 by Ashiran
2002-04-19 20:30:58
After just playing the demo of Age of Wonders 2 I can safely say that I anticipate this game. It's about as close as you can get to Masters of Magic.

Civilized barcode, quick id.
#17 by Warren Marshall
2002-04-19 20:31:03
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
MGS2 would have been better if you had been able to play it, rather than just :

- watch/listen to a cutscene
- move 3 steps
- watch/listen to a cutscene
- open a door
- watch/listen to a cutscene
- etc

WoT?
#18 by Shadarr
2002-04-19 20:31:57
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
E3 is all about hype. I've already got enough hype, now I'd like to play some good games.
#19 by Charles
2002-04-19 20:32:05
www.bluh.org
They were enjoyable cutscenes.  And MGS1 was like that as well, except it wasn't all cutscenes, most of the time it was just staring at pictures and listening to voice acting.  Boo hoo.

Bailey:  Beep beep, motherfucker.
#20 by m0nty
2002-04-19 20:32:25
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
I think the title of the session is Calling All Trolls: Heckle The Poor SOB About DNF Not Being Out Yet.
#21 by Ashiran
2002-04-19 20:33:40
Questions to be answered will include: What were your influences? How do you continue to innovate? How do you build innovation into sequels? How do you see the current market? What are your plans for the future?

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO SOME FREAKING WORK ON AN AI THAT IS ACTUALLY SMART!

Sorry bout that.

Civilized barcode, quick id.
#22 by Bailey
2002-04-19 20:33:41
Rock.

Stuck flat smack dab in the middle of a century with nothing to lose.
#23 by Fugazi(werking)
2002-04-19 20:37:47
Paper.

"Good health" is merely the slowest rate at which one can die.
#24 by Caryn
2002-04-19 20:38:44
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
I shouldn't pimp myself so much, but last year I wrote an article about E3 that I had a lot of fun writing. I kept seeing news posts about who wasn't showing what and who wasn't going to be at E3, so I thought I'd come up with a few of my own.

"It's not stupid -- it's advanced!"
#25 by devttys0
2002-04-19 20:39:32
http://www.planetcrap.com/
(sighs)
Godamned Scissors.

sheesh.
#26 by devttys0
2002-04-19 20:40:13
http://www.planetcrap.com/
No, I'm not trying to cut caryn.

She got a post in there before me.
#27 by Bailey
2002-04-19 20:47:04
You think I won't cut you, esse? Donchu know I'm loco?

Stuck flat smack dab in the middle of a century with nothing to lose.
#28 by Warren Marshall
2002-04-19 20:48:09
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
Nova
They were enjoyable cutscenes.

All I can say is ... WOW!

WoT?
#29 by MCorleone
2002-04-19 20:52:34
Bailey is insane in the membrane.

Oh, and he gets loc'd after dark.

Build a man a fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of the night.  Light a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.
#30 by Charles
2002-04-19 20:55:14
www.bluh.org
Warren, I'm guessing you don't like much anime, either.

Bailey:  Beep beep, motherfucker.
#31 by Leslie Nassar
2002-04-19 20:59:10
http://departmentofinternets.com
Oh, Nova.  Again with the 'people who don't like MGS2 don't like Anime' thing?  :P

i like monkeys.  are you a monkey?
#32 by MCorleone
2002-04-19 21:04:45
If you don't like anime, then the terrorists have won.

Build a man a fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of the night.  Light a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.
#33 by LesJarvis
2002-04-19 21:07:36
Last year was such a big glory year for the PS2 with such a slew of triple-A titles being showcased and released, I tend to wonder whether it will garner as much excitement this go-round.  I know the big thing i'm looking forward to this year is Nintendo unveiling it's flagship franchise games (i.e. Mario, Zelda, Metroid,) *hopefuly* in playable form.  That said, I think this year is going to be quite devoid of any real shockers.  I doubt that there will be many previously unhyped games to come out of the woodwork and wow the crowds.  From a PC perspective there's really nothing i'm looking forward to all that much, as the games I've been wanting to play have either been released (Freedom Force, JK2) are quickly approaching release (Warcraft 3, Morrowind) or quite far off in the future (Duke4, Doom.) Not that I don't hope i'm wrong...
#34 by LesJarvis
2002-04-19 21:18:08
If you think MGS2 had little/no gameplay depth, please do the following:

Raise the difficulty above "normal."
Turn the radar off.

After doing these two things the game becomes a *lot* more challenging, and subsequently a lot more fun.  You actually have to plan your movements and strategize considerably more, and stealth becomes less gimmicky and much more essential.

I tend to believe that this was how the game was planned, and the easier modes were added to make the game more accessible (which they certainly do.)
#35 by Bailey
2002-04-19 21:25:14
What if you like anime about terrorists?

Stuck flat smack dab in the middle of a century with nothing to lose.
#36 by MCorleone
2002-04-19 21:36:52
Then the ravers have won.

Build a man a fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of the night.  Light a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.
#37 by Ashiran
2002-04-19 21:57:00
Ravers never EVER win.

Civilized barcode, quick id.
#38 by MCorleone
2002-04-19 21:58:18
There, I got my own comic book hero icon.

Build a man a fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of the night.  Light a man on fire and you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.
#39 by Ergo
2002-04-19 22:04:52
Anime terrorists are the new nazis.

"I want you to remember me just as I am...filled with murderous rage!" --Homer Simpson
#40 by Caliph Clavin
2002-04-19 22:19:54
quinn@dcyde.net
As I'm a big fan of Starcraft, I'm looking forward to Warcraft 3...poring over the info from the beta it looks like a lot of fun.
#41 by InsideWhat'sLeft Behind
2002-04-19 22:32:24
Jaded cynics? You're not even close yet. :\

"It goes without saying that technical proficiency should be the first acquistion of a student who would be a fine pianist." - Sergei Rachmaninov
#42 by chris
2002-04-19 22:46:34
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
I'm looking forward to several games this year... but I can't say I'm exactly "excited" about any of them. Unreal 2 could be cool, as could UT 2003. Neverwinter will probably be pretty good. Some of the upcoming MMOGs look reasonably fun.

I dunno... whatever. The last time I got excited about a game coming out, I got burned badly. Not falling into that trap again.

-chris
#43 by BobJustBob
2002-04-19 23:01:10
Morrowind and GTA3 PC. That is all.
#44 by Gunp01nt
2002-04-19 23:21:36
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Optimism: I have a date next week and high hopes.

Don't you wanna seize the day?
I wanna go back to reality
But I'm just addicted to stay
Guide me the way out of infinity
#45 by Warren Marshall
2002-04-19 23:27:45
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
I'm almost always optimistic about upcoming games ... Often, I'm disappointed when actually playing it, but when I first start them up, I clear my mind and try to give everything an even chance.  I'm not going to miss out on a good game because I was in a negative mind set when I started it up ...

That said, the new SpiderMan game on the XBox should burn in hell.  The developers who made it should too.  And the lead designer of it owes me $50.

It -might- turn out OK, but I'm on the second level and already pissed off ... not a good sign.  Horrible camera angles, hard to handle controls and bad guys with guns shooting me from offscreen don't bode well ...

But I'm not bitter.

WoT?
#46 by chris
2002-04-19 23:32:02
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
hmm... that's too bad. The Treyarch ports of the tony hawk games have been good.

-chris
#47 by Creole Ned
2002-04-19 23:49:30
What was the game that burned you, chris? If you don't mind sharing. :)
#48 by chris
2002-04-19 23:52:15
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
I would expect it to be a pretty easy guess for anyone here.

Think impressive AI; horrible, half-assed RTS; and gigapets. =)

-chris
#49 by Eyegore
2002-04-19 23:58:58
borghead@hotmail.com
WTF does MGS2 stand for?
#50 by Bailey
2002-04-20 00:02:35
Metal Gear Solid 2

Stuck flat smack dab in the middle of a century with nothing to lose.
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