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Gaming News has the Blues?
April 1st 2002, 13:16 CEST by sprayNwipe

For those who don't know, BluesNews has been down for over 72 hours. It's okay if you haven't noticed, because not a single site has acknowledged this, although some have indirectly by a lack of copied links. If the king of Gaming News has died, where do we go from here? Is this the end of unbiased, useful links about all PC games, not just the ones with "Quake", "Star Wars", and sequel info? And why has the rest of the gaming news "industry" (for lack of a better term) shunned him, when he provides the heads-up every time VE, ShackNews, and even PlanetCrap goes down or comes back up?

BluesNews has been the first site I visit every morning for the last 4 or so years. Why? ShackNews covers the same hyped games, VE is..well...VE, and GamaSutra/IGN/GameSpot are too slow for decent news coverage. Blues covers a far wider range of games, even if they haven't been hyped, while remaining relatively unbiased and fast. In my mind I've compared them to the Variety of the games industry, which is a bit unfair considering I've never read Variety in my life.

Another side note is why hasn't *anyone* mentionied this? After reading other sites and finding no mention of the outage, I just assumed it was an issue on my end - until I asked a few friends and they had the same problems. Blue mentioned site outages and news for places like Scary, Stomped, and VE, so why aren't they doing the same back?

I'm sure that Blues will spring back to life after easter, but as they say, "Absence makes the heart grow fonder". If Blues were to close up tomorrow, where else do you know of with the same kind of coverage?
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#1 by bluishred
2002-04-01 13:22:55
tedypranolo@hotmail.com
First POST!!!!
BWAHAHHAHAHA
#2 by Martin
2002-04-01 13:39:20
http://www.mocol.nu
Well, to be fair, even though VE, Shugashack and others gets some news from Blues he isn't the only source for gaming news on the net. I don't really care for gaming news nowadays, I go to Eurogamer, VE, the Shack and Blues with the occasional visit to The GIA, so I might be wrong though.

-- Martin
Hunkalicious since 1972!
#3 by Bailey
2002-04-01 14:12:53
bluishred

Go back to Shacknews.

Out come the yellow pages and straight to the escort section.
#4 by Martin
2002-04-01 15:02:29
http://www.mocol.nu
Pehaps some of you other donkey abusers out there can provide som info I seek. Do you have the problem of having the donkey more or less come to a complete halt when the file your DL'ing is close to completion? This applies to bigger files mostly. I have a movie on the way down and had a constant 30-40 kb/sec up until there was ~15 megs left of it and the transfers just died. Now I'm getting 0.5-1 kb/sec at the most even with high priority. Very annoying and I'm just wondering if it's my system or a common problem.

-- Martin
Hunkalicious since 1972!
#5 by Marsh Davies
2002-04-01 15:05:03
www.verbalchilli.com
bluishred is

excited, senses=color:red, sound:loud, smell:other, taste:bitter, touch:rough


-- ex Spatula Man --
#6 by Marsh Davies
2002-04-01 15:07:18
www.verbalchilli.com
Another side note is why hasn't *anyone* mentionied this?


Well, I heard about Blue's downtime a couple of days ago. The source? El Crap!

Planet Crap is TEH source for online gaming news.

-- ex Spatula Man --
#7 by Durzel
2002-04-01 15:10:08
durzel@barrysworld.com http://www.superficial.net
BluesNews is soooo 90's
#8 by Gunp01nt
2002-04-01 15:16:01
supersimon33@hotmail.com
martin davies:
Planet Crap is TEH source for online gaming news.

AND honey roasted marketing discussions!

"I'm not sleeping with a junior high-schooler, I have a life sized doll that looks just like one."
#9 by coda
2002-04-01 16:04:40
http://fragged.org/
oh yeah i noticed that blues was down 2 days ago...
watch http://www.fuckedcompany.com i spose :)

--
Wanna be adored? Go to India and moo
#10 by Bailey
2002-04-01 16:12:50
Martin

A lot of times it's in relation to how new/rare the file is, you're on a long queue to get that last chunk, or the few people who have it are offline. I get it halting .01mb before completion a lot of the time, closing edonkey and firing it up again usually resolves it, but I've had some files sit there for a day or more through multiple restarts before finally completing. (shrug) It wasn't named "donkey" on a whim, ya know. Stubborn and obstinate.

Out come the yellow pages and straight to the escort section.
#11 by Post-It
2002-04-01 16:14:48
keithlee@speakeasy.net
I go to the beach, for 2 days. 2 crummy days! 48 hours! And you people have put up 733 posts!! And my topic comes and goes and I never even got to talk about it!!!

Well, I'll still be behind the curve and not posting as I neglect work for the rest of the day and try and catch back up with everyone. Lousy good-for-nothings, always posting.....grumble.
#12 by Duality
2002-04-01 16:17:23
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Its probably going to be, as was pointed out in the other thread this was originally mentioned in -- a case of no support from UGO during weekend hours.  I seem to recall Blue making mention that UGO doesn't do weekend support when it comes to server issues a while back.  How an IT company who's entire business is based around its network can live without 24/7 support is entirely beyond my comprehension, however.
#13 by Bailey
2002-04-01 16:48:20
Priorities.

Out come the yellow pages and straight to the escort section.
#14 by Duality
2002-04-01 16:52:28
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Like buying crack is more important than peanut butter?
#15 by Maarten Goldstein
2002-04-01 16:55:35
#12 is correct, the UGO hosting center doesnt offer 24/7 support, so they took Good Friday and the entire weekend off.
#16 by None-1a
2002-04-01 17:00:35
I have a movie on the way down and had a constant 30-40 kb/sec up until there was ~15 megs left of it and the transfers just died. Now I'm getting 0.5-1 kb/sec at the most even with high priority. Very annoying and I'm just wondering if it's my system or a common problem.


Very common, any number of reasons for it (long queue times, offline users, chunks from someone with a very limited upload cap, ect). Priority changes don't help unless it's looking for sources (also doesn't help if you've got the connections setting jack way up).

You don't have to go to bailey's extreme close and reopen thing, just pauseing and restarting the download will kick it back to looking for more/better sources then your getting now (closeing the reopening only really helps when it sits in the looking state but isn't finding anything).
#17 by Duality
2002-04-01 17:05:15
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
I like eDonkeyBot.  It'll do all that stuff for you -- disconnect, reconnect, pause and unpause downloads that have stopped if it thinks it'll help.

Even has a supar dupar search tool to add more from the built-in donkey search.

But for some reason, its been crashing my donkey, and I can't figure out why.  Oh well.
#18 by Tom Cleghorn
2002-04-01 17:32:20
Well, if Blue's was to die, shit happens, but so be it. But I doubt it has. I'm sure I remember it being down for the fat end of a week a few years back. Maybe he just forgot to pay his hosting bills or something.

On an entirely unrelated note, is eDonkey actually any cop? I've been using Limewire and Kazaa for a while now, and they both kinda suck... best I've found yet is Hotline, but that's an entirely different kettle of fish.

Hit me - I'm wasting valuable time.
#19 by VeeSPIKE
2002-04-01 17:39:01
Well, I heard about Blue's downtime a couple of days ago. The source? El Crap!


well, I didn't hear about it here, I had noticed that it was down however. But the 'Crap is the only place that I saw anything about it, and that was not until yesterday when somebody asked about it. The response was basically "Its UGO's fault, they will fix it on Monaday."

So far, not fixed.

I go to the beach, for 2 days. 2 crummy days! 48 hours! And you people have put up 733 posts!! And my topic comes and goes and I never even got to talk about it!!!


well, then, the obvious solution for you is: Don't ever go to the beach. ;D
#20 by LPMiller
2002-04-01 18:07:46
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Look! Evolution works

Bailey, you'll enjoy this one.

The Suns rays are made up of many atoms.
#21 by Warren Marshall
2002-04-01 18:08:30
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
A thought : maybe Blue is setting up for some big April Fool's joke.

I am a magnificent three toed sloth.
#22 by EvilAsh
2002-04-01 18:15:03
evilash@eviladam.com www.eviladam.com
if that's the case.. um why did he start on wed. Jeesus. thats one long ass setup.
#23 by Duality
2002-04-01 18:17:19
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
TomC: Are Hotline servers still generally Mac stuffs?  I used it briefly a few years back and it was still hard to find a lot of PC stuff, so I never really looked back.

I love the donkey.  I've found quite a few things, like the FotR screener (its only marginally bad that I have it because I'm going to buy it when its out!) as well as a bunch of other stuff.  One of the biggest collections i've seen on it (specifically on the edonkey file site Share Reactor) is Stargate SG-1.  I want to know where they are ripping these from (they're the unrated / commercial-less versions).  They're near VCD quality up to season 5, but so far I've only seen the first season on the retail market.
#24 by Caryn
2002-04-01 18:19:10
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
Warren:

A thought : maybe Blue is setting up for some big April Fool's joke.


I dunno...Blue doesn't seem the type for something like that.

"It's not stupid -- it's advanced!"
#25 by Duality
2002-04-01 18:26:30
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Oh I knew I was going to regret going to work today.  Everyone here at work read that article in the Journal Sentinel (I'm in Milw.), and they're all asking me about it because everyone knows I'm a big gamer.

One was actually afraid that I may end up like that because I play games a lot.
#26 by Duality
2002-04-01 18:28:06
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Caryn: Maybe he's trying to do something different this year ... maybe he'll use the downtime as a build-up for a joke saying that he's now hosted by GSI. :)
#27 by Sgt Hulka
2002-04-01 18:32:14
OT:

STUDENTS DEMAND WARS IN OTHER COUNTRIES

Washington, D.C. -- A delegation of American high school students today demanded the United States stop waging war in obscure nations such as Afghanistan, Kuwait, and Bosnia-Herzegovina, and instead attack places they've actually heard of, such as France, Australia, and Austria, unless, they said, those last two are the same country.

"People claim we don't know as much geography as our parents and grandparents, but it's so not our fault," Josh Beldoni, a senior at Fischer High School in Los Angeles, told the Senate Armed Services Committee. "Back then they only had wars in, like, Germany and England, but we're supposed to know about places like Somalia and Massachusetts."

"Macedonia," corrected committee Chairman Carl Levin of Michigan. "See?" said Beldoni.

Beldoni's frustration was shared by nearly three dozen students at the hearing, who blamed the U.S. military for making them look bad.

"I totally support our soldiers and all that, but I am seriously failing both geography and social studies because I keep getting asked to find Croatia or Yemvrekia, or whatever bizarre-o country we send troops to," said Amelia Nash, a junior at Clark High School in Orlando, FL. "Can't we fight in, like, Italy? It's boot-shaped."

Chairman Levin however, explained that Italy was a U.S. ally, and that intervention is usually in response to a specific threat.

"OK, what about Arulco?" interrupted Tyler Boone, a senior at Bellevue High School in Wisconsin. "That's a country in Jagged Alliance 2 run by the evil Queen Deidranna. I'm totally familiar with that place. She's a major threat."

"Jagged...?" said Levin.

"Alliance. It's a computer game."

"Well, no," Levin answered. "We can't attack a fictional country."

"Yeah right," Boone mumbled. "Like Grenada was real."

The students' testimony was supported by a cross-section of high school geography teachers, who urged the committee to help lay a solid foundation for America's young people by curtailing any intervention abroad.

"Since the anti-terror war began, most of my students can now point to Afghanistan on a map, which is fine, but those same kids still don't know the capitals of Nevada and Ohio," said Richard Gerber, who teaches at Rhymony High School in Atlanta. "I think we need to cut back on our activities overseas and take care of business at home, and if that means invading Tallahassee (FL) or Trenton (NJ) so that students learn where they are, so be it."

"I've always wanted to stick it to Hartford (CT)," said Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island. "Oh sh*t, is my microphone on?"

The hearing adjourned after six hours. An estimated 2,000 more students were expected to hold a march in the nation's capital, but forgot which city it was in.
-- (SatireWire.com)

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#28 by Hugin
2002-04-01 18:42:26
lmccain@nber.org
"The manufacturer of EverQuest purposely made it in such a way that it is more intriguing to the addict," Parker said. "It could be created in a less addictive way, but (that) would be the difference between powdered cocaine and crack cocaine."


Jesus.  The guy was a depressed, schizophrenic, and suffered from seizures when exposed to videogames.  He was the last person in the universe who should have been playing Everquest.  How is what happened, (which is unfortunate, certainly) Sony's fault?  

How would a warning on the box helped this person.  I mean, I don't care,put a warning on the box:

Warning: doing this or anything else for twelve hours a day can be hazardous to your health.  If you have serious mental illness and a chronic medical condition specifically triggered a hobby, freaking stop it and go get professional help. Mothers: It's not the videogame.  It's the serious mental illness.  I'm sorry for your loss, but please.
#29 by Bailey
2002-04-01 18:42:59
LPMiller

I liked this bit:

A psychologist diagnosed him with depression and schizoid personality disorder, symptoms of which include a lack of desire for social relationships, little or no sex drive and a limited range of emotions in social settings.

Every last geek on the muddafuggin planet is schizoid, apparently.

Looks like Shawn was more addicted to cake than Everquest, really. Why is the game the sole factor in his death when he's living alone and working in a pizza parlor? That'd send me over the edge, game or no.

While I like these stories because it's mother nature at work, weeding out the people doing the dogpaddle in the shallow end of the gene pool, but I dislike them because everyone I know starts riding my ass to get out there and be more social for the week or two after they read this crap. (shaking head) Playing games in abject solitude might make me suicidal, but being social with the go-tards makes me homicidal.

Out come the yellow pages and straight to the escort section.
#30 by Martin
2002-04-01 18:43:15
http://www.mocol.nu
Bailey, None-a1 - Thanks for the replies. I know how to handle the problems that the donkey has, just wasn't sure how common it was.

Duality - Yeah, the EDB is great but I often add files to my list and then pause them until I have the space to DL them so I can't use all of it's features. Have you tried the latest version of the EBD? It might help against the crashes. There's supposedly a new version (60) of the actual donkey out but I haven't seen it mentioned on the official site so I won't be getting that just yet.

#18 by Tom Cleghorn
On an entirely unrelated note, is eDonkey actually any cop? I've been using Limewire and Kazaa for a while now, and they both kinda suck... best I've found yet is Hotline, but that's an entirely different kettle of fish.

I use the donkey for everything except music, which its design isn't exactly optimal for. I mostly DL movies / anime but for the occasional ISO I've DL'ed it worked like a charm as well.

-- Martin
Hunkalicious since 1972!
#31 by Bailey
2002-04-01 18:46:30
Oh, and this was cute too:

"The graphics are absolutely thrilling. They just haul you in," said Parker, who has treated several people for EverQuest addiction.

Bwahahahahahaha, NO.

Out come the yellow pages and straight to the escort section.
#32 by Gunp01nt
2002-04-01 18:47:34
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Bailey:
Every last geek on the muddafuggin planet is schizoid, apparently.

WELL  HELLO! We go on quests from Horadric Mages and we accept mission orders from Eisenhower and we think we're a cop whose wife and kid were killed and a Jedi Knight! How are we NOT total schizo's?

"I'm not sleeping with a junior high-schooler, I have a life sized doll that looks just like one."
#33 by Tom Cleghorn
2002-04-01 19:02:36
Duality: Hotline's not so bad any more. There's still a lot of mac stuff, but if you put a little time into looking around, you'll pretty much find anything you want. I think when it started there was only a mac version of the server or something.
Dead good for iso's and TV episodes. Not so wonderful for films, since a lot of servers allow far too many downloads at once, leading to poor transfer speeds. Still, if you get lucky...
Best server I've found so far is a truly *enormous* repository of ebooks. I love it :)
I might give eDonkey a go, actually.

Hit me - I'm wasting valuable time.
#34 by Duality
2002-04-01 19:15:48
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
Speaking of books ... I found audio books converted to MP3s last night.  Among the plethora of Self-help and Lord of the Ring books, I found some good Star Wars books as well as The 22 Immutable Laws of Marketing.
#35 by chris
2002-04-01 19:39:18
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
I don't see the need for general news streams anymore... it's just a bunch of regurgitated press releases, links to content you could find just by going to the site in question, and six hundred daily interviews with Levelord.

A news stream on a mod site, or planethalflife, or whatever, makes more sense to me. It's specific, and it covers community stuff that might otherwise not get heard.

-chris
#36 by Marsh Davies
2002-04-01 19:54:39
www.verbalchilli.com
This banner advert had better be an April Fools, or I'm... going... to be less happy.

I'll buy T-shirts. I promise. Lots of T-shirts.

-- ex Spatula Man --
#37 by Duality
2002-04-01 19:57:24
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
I'm not sure if the news streams are still necessary or not anymore.  Yeah, its all regurgitated.  I don't know how many other readers are like me, in that the news stream sites are the primary site I go to and I wouldn't know, otherwise, of the sites that house the actual content.

To be honest, I rarely actually read content.  GameSpy for some, but mostly just the fun articles and not so much the actual gaming stuff.  But otherwise its just a skim through the headlines and links to find out what's going on.  Majority doesn't even catch my eye to begin with.  So its very possible I'm a very small minority who, essentially, gets all their news from places like blue's and whatever people are talking about on a messageboard like this place.
#38 by Caryn
2002-04-01 20:03:39
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
I'll admit that I like sites like Blue's for the same reasons Duality just laid out. I still go to certain content sites like GameSpy.com to see what they've got up for that day, but for general news on games I like having it all in one place so I can skim and pick out what's interesting. And from a business perspective, they also serve a good purpose in getting the word out on things like patches. I wouldn't have known about a patch for Civ III if I hadn't read it on Blue's.

"It's not stupid -- it's advanced!"
#39 by "hoodoo"
2002-04-01 20:12:00
I want to see the headlines. Who wants to actually read previews and reviews? I'm just curious about what's going on, and the cut-and-paste sites give me that.

Of course, there are far too many, so some will die.

Oh, I do like the Gamespot video reviews. It's interesting seeing footage of the game and hearing and a review instead of reading it.
#40 by Bailey
2002-04-01 20:14:47
chris

I don't see the need for general news streams anymore... it's just a bunch of regurgitated press releases, links to content you could find just by going to the site in question, and six hundred daily interviews with Levelord.

Heh... you know those guys who don't order cable, and don't watch tv, and love to tell you they never watch tv at any given opportunity, even if they mentioned it a few times previously? Well anyway, I like bacon.

Out come the yellow pages and straight to the escort section.
#41 by chris
2002-04-01 20:15:09
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
Yeh, I'm not saying that everyone should stop reading news sites. To each their own. Alls I'm saying is that the "omg this is a terrible, terrible tragedy!" tone of the main topic doesn't really work for me, since I stopped visiting Blue's site sometime in early 2000.

-chris
#42 by chris
2002-04-01 20:20:15
cwb@shaithis.com http://www.cerebraldebris.com
bailey -

How is it my fault that this topic has come up twice in the past few days? =)

I don't think not reading news sites makes me s00p3r-k3wl or anything. I'm just wondering what other people get out of them. The reason I stopped was because I realized I was going to blue's by rote, and had not clicked on a headline, or even really been interested in what I was reading, in like six months. The truth is - and this is before I was even jaded, keep in mind - I'm really only interested in about two games at any given time. I can get all of the information I need on these games from other sources, without having to skim through miles of crap I don't care about.

-chris
#43 by snowcrash-22
2002-04-01 20:26:04
snowcrash22@excite.com
Am I a bad person for mostly getting news that Crappers and Penny Arcade link to?
#44 by crash
2002-04-01 20:26:45

Hi there. I'm an American mother whose child has a serious addiction as well as a host of medical problems and life issues. Do I:

A: Counsel him, encourage him to seek help, put him in rehab whether he wants it or not?

B: Wait for him to take his own fucking life, then sue a multinational corporation?

Gee. B's such an obvious answer, it can't possibly be right. Can it?


- if you can laugh at it, you can live with it.
- "Hey, how 'bout this: fuck you." -LPMiller
#45 by Bailey
2002-04-01 20:28:49
chris

How is it my fault that this topic has come up twice in the past few days? =)

I don't think not reading news sites makes me s00p3r-k3wl or anything. I'm just wondering what other people get out of them. The reason I stopped was because I realized I was going to blue's by rote, and had not clicked on a headline, or even really been interested in what I was reading, in like six months.

Don't ask me, I don't read news sites.

Out come the yellow pages and straight to the escort section.
#46 by Steve Gibson
2002-04-01 20:44:25
http://www.shacknews.com/
Hey, our very own mini-soapopera! Ok, not really that exciting.. oh well. I felt saying "Blues is down" when it was down was kinda redundant, I knew it would be back this afternoon so saved the mention for today so people would know to try again.

To be clear, the past 2 time Shack has had server troubles, no other websites mentioned it or the return of the website. That's a scandal!
#47 by Duality
2002-04-01 20:45:59
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
I would think the real scandal would be the amount of people who didn't notice. ;)
#48 by crash
2002-04-01 20:51:48
perhaps it's not a question of not noticing--perhaps it's because blue's readers are intelligent, patient human beings that realize creating petitions and whining on messageboards when the world doesn't go their way isn't a real solution.

or not. just throwing it out there.

- if you can laugh at it, you can live with it.
- "Hey, how 'bout this: fuck you." -LPMiller
#49 by Duality
2002-04-01 20:56:18
Dualipuff@yahoo.com http://stratoscape.ath.cx/
That is possible.

Imminent Thread Hijack
Can someone tell me if this is a good deal or not?

I'm looking for a functional camera for not too much, and I'm told the PowerShot line is pretty good.  Genesis Camera has a good rating with CNet, and I'm actually thinking of the $424 Executive Supar Kit!!

Thoughts?  Suggestions?  Pertinent or otherwise?

You're the new nazis.
#50 by Steve Gibson
2002-04-01 21:08:48
http://www.shacknews.com/
I would think the real scandal would be the amount of people who didn't notice. ;)


...

Nice one!
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