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Please help me, you are my only hope!
December 29th 2001, 03:52 CET by Morn

This is a blatant abuse of PlanetCrap. Sorry.

I am looking for an MP3 tool, maybe one of you can recommend one to me. I'm really just looking for <b>one</b> feature: I want it to scan a directory and all of its subdirectories for MP3 files and index them using their file names and ID3 tags. Then I want to be able to enter a keyword into a little search box, making the tool spit out all MP3 files with that word in the title or in any of their ID3 tags. Finally, I want to be able to <b>enqueue</b> selected files from the list in Winamp (I'm mentioning this because I've already found a couple of tools that do the indexing part, but don't let me actually play the file without killing the current playlist).

Anyone?
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#1 by "Bailey"
2001-12-29 03:55:45
bailey@evilemail.com
Your abuse sickens me. I feel like a beaten girlfriend. Only hairier. Hopefully.
#2 by "Leslie Nassar"
2001-12-29 03:57:41
http://www.leslienassar.com/
i walked into a door.
#3 by "Inside What's Left Behind"
2001-12-29 04:06:03
I don't seem to get how that would be useful but hey, I'll just shut up instead. And no, sorry I don't have a clue if there's such a program, but there probably is.
#4 by "Bailey"
2001-12-29 04:11:12
bailey@evilemail.com
I fell down the stairs and hit my eye on a fist-shaped tile.
#5 by "Morn"
2001-12-29 04:15:38
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
I have a bunch of MP3s, and I want to be able to *quickly* find files. For example, I want to enter "Krakout" and -- as fast as possible -- get a list of all files with "Krakout" either in their file names or one of their ID3 tags.

A perfect tool would basically look and work just like Windows Explorer. Unfortunately, Windows Explorer only searches directly, with the exception of the indexing services in XP, which doesn't seem to support neither ID3 tags nor network shares.

Come on. This functionality is somewhat obvious. Why aren't there millions of tools that do this? (I have been looking for ages, only finding bloated crap with features I don't need.)

- Morn
#6 by "Desiato"
2001-12-29 04:21:05
desiato_hotblack@hotmail.com http://www.opencrap.org
Well....lets start with this and narrow it down...I'll update if I find something more specific.

Desiato
#7 by "HoseWater"
2001-12-29 04:23:01
http://www.opencrap.org
Gabe, offer to write him the tool he needs if we can keep the crap.  :)

-I was going to buy an Xbox, but one day my PC fell over, so I left it that way.
#8 by "Gabe"
2001-12-29 04:24:40
gabe@opencrap.org http://www.opencrap.org
I'm busy fool! :P
#9 by "HoseWater"
2001-12-29 04:28:45
http://www.opencrap.org
#8 Gabe
I'm busy fool! :P


Aww hell, I'd take a crack in Visual basic, but I don't know of any API's to get the id3 tags out, nor the api's to insert stuff into the playlist.   Being visual basic and all, I guess that's a good thing.  :)

-I was going to buy an Xbox, but one day my PC fell over, so I left it that way.
#10 by "Matthew Gallant"
2001-12-29 04:28:48
mg@truemeaningoflife.com http://truemeaningoflife.com
http://www.interlog.com/~tcharron/grep.html

Then:

grep -S -i "krakout" C:\mp3z\*.mp3

-S searches subdirectories
-i makes the search case insensitive.
#11 by "Morn"
2001-12-29 04:32:25
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
I was counting the posts before the obligatory "Use Linux!" or "Use grep!" reply. :)

No offense.

But how am I supposed to enqueue files from the grep result? And can you think of some other ways of making things more complicated than they should be? (For someone who's not afraid to use decent GUI applications.)

- Morn
#12 by "Morn"
2001-12-29 04:33:07
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
Also, I suppose I'd much rather use find for files. Using grep to search MP3 files for ID3 tags is kind of stupid.
#13 by "HoseWater"
2001-12-29 04:44:46
http://www.opencrap.org
How about thistool.


-I was going to buy an Xbox, but one day my PC fell over, so I left it that way.
#14 by "Gabe"
2001-12-29 04:46:44
gabe@opencrap.org http://www.opencrap.org
#13 by HoseWater
How about thistool.


-I was going to buy an Xbox, but one day my PC fell over, so I left it that way.

No, that'll suck too! Have you no idea of the exacting standards of MORN?
#15 by "HoseWater"
2001-12-29 04:48:15
http://www.opencrap.org
#14 Gabe
#13 by HoseWater
How about thistool.


-I was going to buy an Xbox, but one day my PC fell over, so I left it that way.

No, that'll suck too! Have you no idea of the exacting standards of MORN?


Heh.  It looked to me like it met all the requirements if you don't mind fugly.  :)

-I was going to buy an Xbox, but one day my PC fell over, so I left it that way.
#16 by "Anti-Bunny"
2001-12-29 04:57:35
#10
GREP for Windows


That's nice, but it wouldn't read the ID3 tags, would it?
#17 by "Anti-Bunny"
2001-12-29 04:58:36
#16


gah, okay, I need to refresh the window if I'm going to leave it sit on my desktop for an hour before reading and posting.
#18 by "HoseWater"
2001-12-29 05:00:13
http://www.opencrap.org
Yep, seems to do all that was requested.  (I think.)

-I was going to buy an Xbox, but one day my PC fell over, so I left it that way.
#19 by "Morn"
2001-12-29 05:01:02
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
...

I give up.
#20 by "HoseWater"
2001-12-29 05:01:41
http://www.opencrap.org
#19 Morn
...

I give up.


What?   How did the one I linked fail you?

-I was going to buy an Xbox, but one day my PC fell over, so I left it that way.
#21 by "Gabe"
2001-12-29 05:06:08
gabe@opencrap.org http://www.opencrap.org
It sucked!
#22 by "Morn"
2001-12-29 05:18:06
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
LOVE. Let's talk about something else now.

Linux sucks!
#23 by "Desiato"
2001-12-29 05:19:17
desiato_hotblack@hotmail.com http://www.opencrap.org
It's okay folks, he'll be posting about how it blew out XP's registry in a few hours..

Enjoy!


Desiato
#24 by "wizard"
2001-12-29 05:20:22
wizardque@yahoo.com http://www.opencrap.org
#19 Morn
...

I give up.
Where's the morn we know, you gave up after 19 posts...it would normally have been much sooner :P

I'm at a loss as to why don't use search (find files) in windows, find whatever you want, drag and drop those files on to winamp and save the play list...  it's got a few steps, but it works...right?

-wizard
#25 by "wizard"
2001-12-29 05:22:10
wizardque@yahoo.com http://www.opencrap.org
#23 Desiato
It's okay folks, he'll be posting about how it blew out XP's registry in a few hours..

Enjoy!


Desiato

Yeah, lets make this a XP vs. Linux debate, I haven't had one of those in like what, 2 minutes now!  Come, someone sling some shit!  blah

-wizard
#26 by "Bailey"
2001-12-29 05:24:49
bailey@evilemail.com
Let's talk about something else now.

I find Type O Negative entirely entertaining when I'm entirely sozzled. But only then.
#27 by "Cliff"
2001-12-29 06:12:36
cps46@earthlink.net
My smartypants are in the laundry.  Now I can't go to my Tards Anonymous Midnight MindMeld.
#28 by "Morn"
2001-12-29 06:13:55
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
I'm at a loss as to why don't use search (find files) in windows, find whatever you want, drag and drop those files on to winamp and save the play list... it's got a few steps, but it works...right?


Because a) it's slow (because it doesn't use any indexing) and b) it doesn't search ID3 tags.

In fact, I would very much WANT to be able to just use Explorer. But I can't because of the two reasons I just mentioned.

Just in case, I'll say them again:

Because a) it's slow (because it doesn't use any indexing) and b) it doesn't search ID3 tags.

I shouldn't have asked here. You're all stupid. :)

- Morn
#29 by "Bailey"
2001-12-29 06:15:51
bailey@evilemail.com
Actively loathing Morn for no particular reason other than his gross generalizations lumping me in with the monkeys.

MONKEYS!!!!
#30 by "Cliff"
2001-12-29 06:20:58
cps46@earthlink.net
I am a lunky monkey, my smartypants smell funky.
#31 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-12-29 06:21:13
warren@epicgames.com http://www.epicboy.com
Not to get picky Morn, but if you fill in the "A word or phrase in the file:" field it will search inside of the MP3's for the string as well, which should include the ID3 tag unless they encode it somehow.

But that doesn't alleviate the slow issue, so ...

===

I am a magnificent three-toed sloth.
#32 by "Morn"
2001-12-29 06:21:52
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
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#33 by "Morn"
2001-12-29 06:22:46
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
Warren, the BIG thing I need is an indexed search. Why don't you ever reply to my ICQ messages? Do you hate me? It is your missing to drive me into suicide? WELL, YOU'RE VERY CLOSE!!

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#34 by "Morn"
2001-12-29 06:23:54
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
And before you say it: no, I can't use the indexing service, because that doesn't seem to support network shares.

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#35 by "Morn"
2001-12-29 06:24:08
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
gijrfiuj0egunu8mu!
#36 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-12-29 06:24:24
warren@epicgames.com http://www.epicboy.com
I don't reply because you're not on my contact list at the moment and I had to set the "Don't receive messages from people I don't have on my list" flag because I was getting a spam message every couple of hours and couldn't take it anymore.

Re-add me to your list or something and I'll add you when I get that notification ...

===

I am a magnificent three-toed sloth.
#37 by "Morn"
2001-12-29 06:25:25
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
HATE!
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#38 by "Cliff"
2001-12-29 06:29:05
cps46@earthlink.net
Morn #37
HATE!

Sure, just point me in the right direction.  Or was this more of a general instruction.

fkds0fkj0sdf

I think this is German for "scat inspired poo huffing makes my fingers twitch."
#39 by "MCorleone"
2001-12-29 06:57:58
www.planetcrap.com
Angry Morn Posting
No love from his M P 3s
or Warren Marshall
#40 by "American McGee's Leslie Nassar"
2001-12-29 07:28:01
http://www.leslienassar.com/
i saw this posted on American McGee's Garth Franklin's Dark Horizons;

American McGee's Alice: Wes Craven talked with Sci-Fi Wire and confirmed that not only is he definitely in charge of Dimension Films' attempt to do a film based on the famous computer game (best described as Quake in Lewis Carroll's Wonderland setting), but it'll be a CG-animated feature as well. Craven says "It's very close to the game. Everything that we can take from the game, we will steal, and then we'll bring even more to it. I'm sure this will be a big CGI picture, and we'll try to duplicate as much of the sort of wonder part of the Wonderland as we can. It's a little darker, got a lot more edge, so it's kind of like Wonderland seen through the eyes of post-21st-century America. Bob Weinstein was hoping for a PG-13. We'll see. Probably that's what we're shooting for".

... and the circle of life continues.  McGee steals from Morrison, McKean, and Carrol.  Craven steals from McGee.  it's really quite beautiful in a creatively bankrupt way.
#41 by "Sgt Hulka"
2001-12-29 07:31:27
Sgt_Hulka@Yahoo.com http://www.opencrap.org
This film is short and sweet and funny.
#42 by "Leslie Nassar"
2001-12-29 07:32:01
http://www.leslienassar.com/
correction;  that should have been American McGee's Circle of Life and American McGee's Creatively Bankrupt.
#43 by "Bailey"
2001-12-29 07:59:28
bailey@evilemail.com
Hulka

This film is short and sweet and funny.

Can I start punching these people now? Especially the pregnant chick, especially in the gut? Felt like "Stomp: We're Not Quite Washed Up Yet. No, Really."
#44 by "Sgt Hulka"
2001-12-29 08:06:16
Sgt_Hulka@Yahoo.com http://www.opencrap.org
#43 Bailey
Hulka

This film is short and sweet and funny.

Can I start punching these people now? Especially the pregnant chick, especially in the gut? Felt like "Stomp: We're Not Quite Washed Up Yet. No, Really."


I take it you never saw the commericial they're making fun of?
#45 by "BobJustBob"
2001-12-29 08:07:47
kevinakabob@mindspring.com
I haven't used MusicMatch JB in many years, so I don't know how bad it's become, but it used to handle ID3 sorting and searching rather well... somewhat slow but reasonable for 1000's of files....
#46 by "Cliff"
2001-12-29 08:08:09
cps46@earthlink.net
Bailey
I sense much hate in you.
#47 by "Bailey"
2001-12-29 08:21:11
bailey@evilemail.com
Hulka

I take it you never saw the commericial they're making fun of?

I'm afraid I don't subscribe to this "cable" of which you speak.

Cliff

I sense much hate in you.

Two things: A) it's loathing, not hate. Hate's a strong word to be reserved for the next Survivor series and racism. B) you'd be hateful too, if you were playing Mimesis. This game make Anarchy Online look fun and playable.
#48 by "broken"
2001-12-29 08:50:21
Since we're talking about mp3 apps  (and everything else), here's an idea I had some time ago. I wonder if such an app exists and, if so, could you point me to it?

The idea would be having a winamp plugin that learns about the user's tastes as songs are played. Some days you'll enqueue several particular songs in a row, and many times specific song sequences will happen (because you like them that way). The program, after a learning period, should be able to create playlists that are suited to your taste (sort of an automated DJ, if you wish). Expanding the idea, if generated lists were shared between users, the program should be able to suggest new groups that the user may like (somewhat like what Firefly used to do). Does this sound crazy?
#49 by "Wes Craven's American McGee's LewisCarroll's Alice"
2001-12-29 10:19:35
crash@dork.com
so now all we need is for Lewis Carroll to rise from the grave and write the novelization, and the circle will be complete.

now, where did i put that summoning ritual...
#50 by "None-1a"
2001-12-29 11:31:27
http://www.opencrap.org
#40 Leslie Nassar quoted

American McGee's Alice: Wes Craven talked with Sci-Fi Wire and confirmed that not only is he definitely in charge of Dimension Films' attempt to do a film based on the famous computer game (best described as Quake in Lewis Carroll's Wonderland setting), but it'll be a CG-animated feature as well. Craven says "It's very close to the game. Everything that we can take from the game, we will steal, and then we'll bring even more to it.


Coming soon to a theater near you, jumping puzzles! Watch as [insert hot teen actor of the moment] falls from dizzying heights only to be reborn and do it again. See how ineffective a knife is when used on super human creatures.
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