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December 20th 2001, 06:35 CET by Morn

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#1 by "Yotsuya"
2001-12-20 06:40:35
potvin@digitalwoodchuck.com http://www.digitalwoodchuck.com
First! OMG!
#2 by "Yotsuya"
2001-12-20 06:41:29
potvin@digitalwoodchuck.com http://www.digitalwoodchuck.com
Never read it. Probably won't see it. I'd like to see an "Ender's Game" movie.
#3 by "KookieMonsta"
2001-12-20 06:52:11
kookiemon@hotmail.com
Ender's Game would be nice.  Though I'm not quite sure how Hollywood will take to the sequels.
It gets a bit weird after the 2nd book.
#4 by "Hugin"
2001-12-20 06:52:13
lmccain@nber.org
It was good.  Loonnng, but good.
#5 by "Yotsuya"
2001-12-20 06:53:56
potvin@digitalwoodchuck.com http://www.digitalwoodchuck.com
I've only read/taught Ender's Game. I loved it because I used video games with my class to illustrate portions of the novel, as well as work on math and reading standards. Muy fun.
#6 by "Eris"
2001-12-20 07:11:13
Fuck. I *KNEW* I should have played hooky from work today :/
#7 by "Yotsuya"
2001-12-20 07:15:30
potvin@digitalwoodchuck.com http://www.digitalwoodchuck.com
Why, Eris?
#8 by "DrDel"
2001-12-20 07:27:17
www.NewsDev.com
just got back from it... great movie.. absolutely great...

don't want to say anymore than that, but if morn would throw some ['spoiler'] tags on the site, maybe we could say more about the film...

anyone know where it was filmed?
#9 by "DrDel"
2001-12-20 07:27:45
www.NewsDev.com
(methinks I want to take up archery after seeing the film! lol)
#10 by "Eris"
2001-12-20 07:34:49
#7 by Yotsuya

To see the movie, of course.

I sleep during the day, and work at night. No time for me to see it until the weekend :)

I'm really surprised. I haven't heard ANYTHING bad about the movie except for the little bitchy quibbles about Ms Tyler's character and the CGI Gollum.
#11 by "None-1a"
2001-12-20 07:49:25
http://www.opencrap.org
#10 Eris
I'm really surprised. I haven't heard ANYTHING bad about the movie except for the little bitchy quibbles about Ms Tyler's character and the CGI Gollum.


Don't worry you'll be hearing plunty from people that went to see it as a family movie. Not that it's totaly with out merit since the TV spots and the product tie-ins do seam to make it out as a kids movie (which morn tells me isn't the case at all).
#12 by "Morn"
2001-12-20 08:07:48
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
Gollum looks good, maybe a bit Abe-ish.

And no, LotR is *not* a kids movie.

- Morn
#13 by "leslie nassar"
2001-12-20 08:17:52
http://www.leslienassar.com/
here's my review;  i preferred phantom menace to lotr.
#14 by "Greg"
2001-12-20 08:19:00
greg417@worldnet.att.net
I thought Fellowship was a good movie. I just started reading the books this month (for the first time), and I just finished Fellowship (and started The Two Towers) yesterday. For the most part the movie was very true to the book. And the parts that were different were not sacrilege (sp?).

There is one thing very different in the movie from the book (at least in the how, not the what), that would have been pretty tedious if it was left the same. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

And for the talk of how Liv Tyler had a much bigger role, ??? Yes, I know, but the hullabaloo isn't justified

Hard to talk about this without spoiling the movie :)

Greg
#15 by "Paul"
2001-12-20 08:23:12
deleted deleted
not enough nudity.
#16 by "Bailey"
2001-12-20 08:26:42
bailey@evilemail.com
Meh. Anything with elves in it begs to disappoint.
#17 by "Stepto"
2001-12-20 08:32:13
stepto@gamersangst.com http://www.gamersangst.com
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Ok.  Legolas stabbing an orc in the neck with an arrow then fitting the arrow into his bow and killing the next orc all in like 2 seconds made me shout out loud "KICK ASS!"

S.
#18 by "godZero"
2001-12-20 09:18:36
godzero@gmx.de
#8 I beleive it was New Zealand

#13 Lo Wang says: "You a very strange man!"

It was one of the first books I read as a young boy. I loved it. Read it at least ten times since, every1-2 years.

As a fan, I'm very critical and I like the movie. The only thing which bothers me is a choice of actors/actresses.
#19 by "godZero"
2001-12-20 09:20:51
godzero@gmx.de
#12 Morn: it depends on how whacky your kids are :-)
#20 by "godZero"
2001-12-20 09:21:19
godzero@gmx.de
#12 Morn: it depends on how whacky your kids are :-)
#21 by "godZero"
2001-12-20 09:23:04
godzero@gmx.de
doubleclick.net did some brainwashing here... :-)
#22 by "Eris"
2001-12-20 09:26:54
#15 by Paul

You hobbitphiles disgust me.
#23 by "PD"
2001-12-20 09:30:50
spam@someone.else
#5 You didn't miss much, in fact you're better off.

The new 'Shadow' series are more like Ender's Game, excpet from different viewpoints.
#24 by "Ryan Kelly"
2001-12-20 09:32:44
kelster@planettribes.com http://www.planettribes.com/
Fucking eh. That movie was fantastic.

I can't wait to see my normal pals become quasi-geeks after they check LotR out. ;)

-Kel
#25 by "MaverickUK"
2001-12-20 11:51:25
peter.bridger@tpg.co.uk http://www.thisstrife.com/
On the Simpon scale of 1 to 10, I give this film a 9...Any questions?

--
Mav
\"What kinda shithole planet is this!?\"
#26 by "Judge Judas"
2001-12-20 12:04:11
JJ@JudgeJudas-vs-AdvocateChrist.com www.JudgeJudas-vs-AdvocateChrist.com
(methinks I want to take up archery after seeing the film! lol)



Having seen how Martial Arts instruction works in Asia, I'd agree to put Archery in every school in the UK.

Competitive sport, re-engage tradition, dangerous enough to be interesting, not exactly a "useful" modern weapon (lack of concealability).

That and Kung Fu. I'd teach all our kids Kung Fu, just like they do in the Yellow lands.
#27 by "deadlock"
2001-12-20 12:22:41
deadlock@eircom.net
I went to see it last night and thought it was excellent. My girlfriend, whose only read the first book of Fellowship, thought it was excellent. I've read the book twice and love it but I'm by no means possessive about it so the discrepancies in the movie didn't bother me that much (there were other people in the cinema moaning about certain things that were removed): just think of it thusly - it's an adaptation. And I defy anyone not to be moved by Boromir's fall.

deadlock

suds and soda tastes okay with beer, sometimes
#28 by "godZero"
2001-12-20 12:53:09
godzero@gmx.de
#27 "deadlock" wrote...
(there were other people in the cinema moaning about certain things that were removed): just think of it thusly - it's an adaptation


Yeah, those don't understand that it's hard to extract all the content of one rather hefty book into 3 short hours.

#26 "Judge Judas" wrote...
I'd teach all our kids Kung Fu, just like they do in the Yellow lands.


You think they really do? It would be quite strange. Well, it might at least make football more interesting...
#29 by "deadlock"
2001-12-20 13:19:24
deadlock@eircom.net
Judas:
I'd teach all our kids Kung Fu, just like they do in the Yellow lands.

Heh, the other night I was on the piss in the city centre and was waiting for a taxi on the quays. There was a couple of oriental tourists getting hassle from some local skangers (scumbags) and one of the cunts pulled a knife. Next thing there was fucking kung-fu kicks and chops flying and within two minutes the three dirtbirds were on the deck and the two tourists were strolling off down the street. Fucking hilarious.

deadlock
#30 by "Gunp01nt Holiday Special"
2001-12-20 13:36:29
Mav:
Any questions?

Yeah. A ten on the simpsons scale... is that a bad or a good thing?
#31 by "Gabe"
2001-12-20 14:41:34
gabe@opencrap.org http://www.opencrap.org
#16 Bailey
Meh. Anything with elves in it begs to disappoint.

These are my favorite comments. Discounting something because it contains something called elves? How do you feel about movies with the color blue in them?
#32 by "Gary "NULLpointer" Phillips"
2001-12-20 14:55:12
nullpointer@email.uophx.edu
Star what? George who?

'Nuff said. ;)
#33 by "Gary "NULLpointer" Phillips"
2001-12-20 14:57:15
nullpointer@email.uophx.edu
#31 Gabe

"How do you feel about movies with the color blue in them?"


I HATE TEH BLUE COLAR!!!! :)
#34 by "LPMiller"
2001-12-20 15:04:22
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
#16 Bailey
Meh. Anything with elves in it begs to disappoint.


This discounts out of hand all the great elven actors of our times.  To dismiss, out of hand, the contributions of such greats as the late Billy Barty...Mini me...that squat that worked with Kid Rock, is to disparage a whole culture devoted to love, science, and gay porn.  I'm ashamed of you.
#35 by "Bailey"
2001-12-20 15:13:10
bailey@evilemail.com
Gabe

These are my favorite comments. Discounting something because it contains something called elves? How do you feel about movies with the color blue in them?

Depends. Are we talking sky blue, or sea blue?

My favorite comments are people who still take the most blatant sarcasm as an honest complaint. Don't get all fanboi defensive on us now Gabe, I haven't even seen the flick, no rush.

LPMiller

(long, pained pause, rubbing temples) Those are all dwarves and leprechauns.
#36 by "Judge Judas"
2001-12-20 15:17:35
JJ@JudgeJudas-vs-AdvocateChrist.com www.JudgeJudas-vs-AdvocateChrist.com
You think they really do? It would be quite strange.


I saw it on TV. In South Korea, you learn a karate system. In Thailand, you get taught Muay Thai kickboxing at school. Across the Asian countries (by this I mean Chinese-type Asians, not the Indian Sub-Continent "Asians") they have various local, state, and national agendas teaching kids Kung Fu.

Saw a documentary on Korean schools once, the morning assembley is conducted in white karate suits and a series of katas. Inspirational stuff.



"Dad, I'm being bullied at school."

-How many of them are there?

"Twelve. They're the older brothers of the bully gang I wiped out last week."

-Take your pastings now son, just make sure you cripple one each time you go down. Can't go on for more than..

"..three months, dad?"

-Good math son. Good math.
#37 by "LPMiller"
2001-12-20 15:21:47
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
#35 Bailey
Gabe



LPMiller

(long, pained pause, rubbing temples) Those are all dwarves and leprechauns.


Eh, they all look alike to me.
#38 by "LPMiller"
2001-12-20 15:22:11
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Quote tags suck.
#39 by "Gabe"
2001-12-20 15:26:31
gabe@opencrap.org http://www.opencrap.org
#35 Bailey
My favorite comments are people who still take the most blatant sarcasm as an honest complaint.

Didn't really seem like sarcasm, but rather what people that don't like fantasy and who haven't seen the movie or maybe never even intend to say.

I haven't even seen the flick, no rush.

See.
#40 by "Sgt Hulka"
2001-12-20 15:30:36
hulka@clownpenis.fart http://www.hulka.com
#8 DrDel
just got back from it... great movie.. absolutely great...

don't want to say anymore than that, but if morn would throw some ['spoiler'] tags on the site, maybe we could say more about the film.. anyone know where it was filmed?


Yes, I know where it was filmed.  (New Zealand)  I also think there should be a moratorium on spoilers for films. Each film, based on any known pre-sale data should contain the moratorium date with it's release.  For example, FOTR would be 12/19/01 - 1/12/02

This gives people a little more than three weeks to get thier fat ass off the couch and see the film.  If they don't by then, then let hte spoilers fly!  That is unless someone specifically asks not to be told.

For example, I haven't see The Sixth Sense yet, so don't tell me he's a ghost.

I have tickets for FOTR for this Saturday at 4pm.  Wooo-hoo CITY!  FRODO OWNS JOO!




....Today in Spolierland "Hulka spoils The Sixth Sense for himself!
#41 by "Post-It"
2001-12-20 17:03:56
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Ummm.. in Korea they learn Tae Kwan Do. Karate is Japanese (Okinawan to be precise). Considering the bad blood that still exists on some levels between the two countries, many Koreans would probably be offended by the claim that they learn a Japanese martial art over their own national one (which Tae Kwan Do is). And for the record, in Japan they primarily learn Judo followed by Kendo, I believe. And in China they learn Wu Shu, but only until around age 10 or so. Those who are good enough to continue to learn due so at the expense of their schoolwork (see Jet Li.
#42 by "sentinel"
2001-12-20 17:17:46
It was filmed in New Zealand, supposedly because that's where Peter Jackson (the director) is from and he's afraid to fly. Anyway another version of the story says it was filmed in New Zealand because it's the only place on earth where all the different types of landscapes needed for the movie were available and relatively close to eachother. I'm not sure either story makes much sense, but the second one is probably the most likely, although I figure if George Lucas can fly his gear all over the place ten times for a single movie, Peter Jackson should be able to do the same.

Or maybe it's a combination, like Peter Jackson wants to fly as little as he can so he went to find a place where everything could be shot without moving stuff around too much. Also, might have to do with the money involved of shipping everything several times.
#43 by "Bailey"
2001-12-20 17:25:42
bailey@evilemail.com
Gabe

Didn't really seem like sarcasm, but rather what people that don't like fantasy and who haven't seen the movie or maybe never even intend to say.

Well, I'm not a huge fantasy buff now, but in my youth, I had a good 400 or so books in my room. So that's not the issue, don't worry.

I haven't even seen the flick, no rush.

See.

I'll wander on down to the theatre this sat afternoon, most likely. This is just one of those few occasions where my interest is casual enough to be able to resist the hype. The less effort I make, the more rewarding the movie will be.

On a different topic...

Question: How can there be spoilers for a movie when everyone here has probably probably read the book several times over the course of their lives?
#44 by "Hugin"
2001-12-20 17:28:16
lmccain@nber.org
Yeah Stepto, Legolas was The Man. Who knew a bow could be a close combat weapon?
#45 by "OmegaFoRCe"
2001-12-20 17:40:22
LookAround@You'llFindIt.com
#43 by Bailey
On a different topic...

Question: How can there be spoilers for a movie when everyone here has probably probably read the book several times over the course of their lives?

I actually haven't read any of the LotR books... I had intended on reading them prior to watching the films but it looks as if I will see the movie(s) before I read the books.

But since the books have been out for so long and many people have read them I agree that spoilers for the movie won't cause as much as a stir as spoilers from other films.
#46 by "wizard"
2001-12-20 17:41:50
wizardque@yahoo.com http://www.opencrap.org
#13 leslie nassar
here's my review;  i preferred phantom menace to lotr.

you're a sick, deranged person...

-wizard
#47 by "wizard"
2001-12-20 17:43:05
wizardque@yahoo.com http://www.opencrap.org
#17 Stepto
No kidding...  that whole scene was amazing.

-wizard
#48 by "wizard"
2001-12-20 17:52:51
wizardque@yahoo.com http://www.opencrap.org
As I said in the other topic, I was absolutley amazed...  as a long time reader of fantasy (since I started reading books), I'm completely in love with this movie.  I loved everything about it, I thought it was a great adaptation of the book and I can't wait for the sequels.  Since they are filmed as one, I have hope they will be just as good.

Overall, the movie had the essence of the book...the essence of the fantasy genre.

Legolas was sweetness (I too want to learn the bow now :) ) and Strider rocked.

On a side note, I almost had to hurt someone on the way out, they were complaining about how long it was....  damn kids...  :)
-wizard
#49 by "leslie nassar"
2001-12-20 17:57:35
http://www.leslienassar.com/
you just know every player in mmorpg's from now until the end of time will be named some variation of legolas.

* legolas1029382 needs food... badly.
* leg0l4s-r0x shot the food.
#50 by "Bailey"
2001-12-20 18:04:54
bailey@evilemail.com
leslie

Par for the course. We've been suffering through Gandalfs and Raistlins and Bilbos and Tasslehoffs since day one. Not the mention the Galahads and Lancelots and whatever else the fuck the unimaginative little maggots leech off of for that particular week.

What's what more name to the pile?
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