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GameSpy.com Eaten by Giant Banner Ad of Death!!
July 14th 2001, 10:55 CEST by Morn

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#1 by "Morn"
2001-07-14 10:55:36
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
How do I make it go away?
#2 by "Mankovic"
2001-07-14 11:04:09
Invest in GSI...=)
#3 by "The Organizer"
2001-07-14 11:06:55
That rocks!
#4 by "The Organizer"
2001-07-14 11:07:06
I want one!
#5 by "crash"
2001-07-14 11:16:51
crash@planetcrap.com
y'know as heinous as that is, it has a number of advantages over current banners:

1. it's extremely hard to ignore. :)
2. it tells you exactly what you need to know.
3. it tells you everything you need to know.
4. you don't have to go anywhere else for more information.

strangely, i didn't get it when i went there to see it, and i didn't have my blocker on, so i can't say if it goes away by itself or not, or how long it takes to load (not that gamespy.com's loading time is anything resembling "brisk" in any case), or if you have to click on it, or whatever. ideally, it would come up and stay for about 5 seconds, then disappear on its own.

but hell i could live with this. especially if it was fast loading and went away on its own.
#6 by "None-1a"
2001-07-14 11:17:37
none1a@home.com http://www.geocities.com/none-1a
You call that a giant ad banner, ha you haven't seen the JP3 one yet have you (the screen turns blue and a large shadow moves across, the first time I saw it I thought I had left Ie's security option on low and got a virus).
#7 by "Morn"
2001-07-14 11:20:27
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
And FYI, this isn't really supposed to be a GSI bashing thread. If they have to resort to slowly replacing content with advertising in a last ditch effort to squeeze some money out of the dead banner ad horse, maybe we should just pity them, as there probably isn't much left to bash? ;)

- Morn
#8 by "Morn"
2001-07-14 11:24:07
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
crash: I dunno. If their answer to the downfall of the "small-scale" banner ad market is simply making banner ads bigger and more obtrusive, I think they may reach a point soon where their site simply becomes unusable and worthless. I don't believe the majority of gamers/users/people would want to click through a heap of banner ads to reach content that isn't too interesting to begin with.

- Morn
#9 by "None-1a"
2001-07-14 11:25:20
none1a@home.com http://www.geocities.com/none-1a
#5 "crash" wrote...
strangely, i didn't get it when i went there to see it, and i didn't have my blocker on, so i can't say if it goes away by itself or not, or how long it takes to load (not that gamespy.com's loading time is anything resembling "brisk" in any case), or if you have to click on it, or whatever. ideally, it would come up and stay for about 5 seconds, then disappear on its own.


idle with the page loaded for a little while, it'll show up. Sadly this one unlike the JP3 one I got on fileplanet a while ago doesn't just go away on it's own (you must click a little blue x above the thought bubbles to make those go away) in fact  waiting longer is what causes the daydreaming one to pop up.
#10 by "Crap Peruser"
2001-07-14 12:09:08
kallisti@hell.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com/
It could be a lot worse. At least I didn't have any trouble finding the "Close Window" button.
#11 by "AnalFissure"
2001-07-14 12:16:41
Funny you should make a post about  it.

I was accosted by the same type of uber pop-up banner ad for the very first time today. I visited zeroping.com for a file download early this morning, when this thing popped up. It had a 4 minute timer on it that slowly started to count down to zero, and as far as I could tell, there was no other way to close it besides clicking on it, or waiting for the time to run out.

The window had no title bar, and when I right-clicked on it in the taskbar a menu wouldn't even show up. I ended up having to alt-f4 it into oblivion -- but seriously, how much more cunty can these people get? I just don't get it. Why would somebody devise an advertisement that is so unbelievably annoying, that they run the risk of a potential customer deliberately NOT buying a product, just because the ad was so fucking asinine!
#12 by "AnalFissure"
2001-07-14 12:17:49
Sorry, should have been more clear... When I said "by clicking on it" I meant, going to the actual site that was advertised. Fuck that!
#13 by "AnalFissure"
2001-07-14 12:22:17
Also, as a side note:


Fuck gamespy. Fuck the spyware they sneak into arcade, fuck the fucking fruity download system they've got setup, and fuck the gamespy member login (or whatever) that they ask for -- seemingly at random -- when I am forced to use their shitty service.

And fuck those ads, too.

Thanks.
#14 by "Foogla"
2001-07-14 13:03:01
Foogla@gmx.de
I tried to use the login courtesy of LvL, but it didn't work. :/
#15 by "Ashiran"
2001-07-14 13:07:20
ikhier@wish.nl wtf.couchcrew.com
Does Gamespy Arcade has spyware?
#16 by "fatgraham"
2001-07-14 14:23:49
graham@deadpenguin.org http://www.deadpenguin.org
#15: does gamespy own planetdoesthepopeshitinthewoods.com ?
#17 by "szcx"
2001-07-14 15:00:27
leslie@sweetfuckingchrist.com www.whatwouldjesusdrive.com
I noticed that Slashdot has resorted to annoying-as-fuck banners as well.  Sometimes the page will load only the banner, then wait a really long time before sending the remaining content.

I can understand the rationale though.  When your parent company is circling the drain at 2.75, it's time for desperate revenue-raising measures.
#18 by "szcx"
2001-07-14 15:34:08
leslie@sweetfuckingchrist.com www.whatwouldjesusdrive.com
Morn is such a hypocrite.  PlanetCrap is using exactly the same ad scheme!
#19 by "Morn"
2001-07-14 15:44:50
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
Darn!
#20 by "llamasex"
2001-07-14 16:56:06
llamasex@yahoo.com www.drunkenlosers.com
hahaaahahaahhahaahahahaahahaaahahaaahahahahahaha
#21 by "deadlock"
2001-07-14 17:26:11
deadlock@eircom.net
yo szcx, what verion of XP are you using there ? Have you a CDR running on that ?

deadlock
#22 by "Ashiran"
2001-07-14 17:27:30
ikhier@wish.nl wtf.couchcrew.com
#16 by fatgraham
#15: does gamespy own planetdoesthepopeshitinthewoods.com ?


My guess would be no actually.
#23 by "Blokey"
2001-07-14 17:31:14
blokey34@hotmail.com
I'm sure it's gonna be on some Planets soon!
#24 by "BarneyQue"
2001-07-14 17:54:06
barneyque@hotmail.com
Hmm, I'm not sure if I should be impressed or not.  Scoring a rack of McD's adds must be a pretty big deal for a site would it not?  I'm not sure if thats prestigeous(sp), or not, but I'm sure they are getting enough money to make it worth it to put something that is almost sure to alienate a good portion of the readership.

They are either doing, much better, or much worse than we think.

I played around with the security settings in IE, it is possible to make it so they wont even load, but by doing so, you take the convience out of browsing.

And crash, what's this about a blocker?  Did you know your stealing food right off Apache's dinner table?
#25 by "szcx"
2001-07-14 17:55:49
leslie@sweetfuckingchrist.com www.whatwouldjesusdrive.com
yo szcx, what verion of XP are you using there ? Have you a CDR running on that ?

RC1.  It's running on the notebook (Vaio SR-7K), so there's no CD-R.
#26 by "Desiato"
2001-07-14 17:57:40
desiato_hotblack@hotmail.com Nope....dammit
Oh, and I would like to let our Planetcrap posters know...

FilePlanet ID

surfas@gamespy.com

Password: test

Use in good health!

Oh - I have a small 77k image I'd love to distribute - and old one with "CashSpy" rendered
in loving 3D....szcx, somebody -- wanna host it?


Desiato
#27 by "Darkseid-D"
2001-07-14 18:11:27
Darkseid@Captured.com www.sluggy.com
Im going to be EVER so nice to you kiddies.

Im sure some of you are aware of the SpiderMan movie in production, directed by Sam Raimi (Evil dead....). Anyway theres a teaser trailer up for it on Apples website, but its stream only.

at least, it was Enjoy my little web slingin fans

awwwthangyavermucha

Ds
#28 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-07-14 18:44:58
warren@epicgames.com epicboy.flipcode.com
Darkseid-D (#27):
Im going to be EVER so nice to you kiddies.

Im sure some of you are aware of the SpiderMan movie in production, directed by Sam Raimi (Evil dead....). Anyway theres a teaser trailer up for it on Apples website, but its stream only.

at least, it was Enjoy my little web slingin fans

awwwthangyavermucha

I saw it in front of the Final Fantasy movie.  :P
#29 by "Creole Ned"
2001-07-14 19:20:14
cned@telus.net
Not only are the Gamespy ads big, annoying and even more intrusive than the usual pop-ups, they also seem to overlook the fact that you do not have to be a U.S. citizen to access the World Wide Web. Last time I checked, the local McDonald's was not running any Monopoly contest. :)

BTW, that pic was hilarious, sczx. Nice closure on the whole Anarchy Online thing here. Or so I pray. :P

You know pop-ups have reached an all-time low when they give you the borderless window that can only be closed by hitting ALT-F4. Sure, anyone here knows how to do that and does so with a deft flick of the wrist, but Joe Compaq probably doesn't and has the window stuck hanging there. Does his irritation suddenly turn to delight as he is forced, through his limited PC knowledge, to leave the ad up? Or does he just feel like knocking a fist into his monitor screen? I suspect the latter.
#30 by "Darkseid-D"
2001-07-14 19:26:23
Darkseid@Captured.com www.sluggy.com
yes, and ?

now you can watch it again without having to pay $7 for a ticket and $2 for a packet of raisinettes.

foo.


Ds
#31 by "Crap Peruser"
2001-07-14 19:33:27
kallisti@hell.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com/
something that is almost sure to alienate a good portion of the readership.

"Good" portion, well, yeah. But that wouldn't be "very many," I'll wager. Who the hell hasn't gone to McD's or played Monopoly? Hell, I loathe that place, and I was still tempted to swing in and grab some game pieces.

Considering that pop-up windows absolutely never ever register on me (POW + short-term-memory loss/management, wo0t), I can not bring myself to condemn this latest hootenanny. At least they are bringing bigname dollars to the virtual table. This is the first fast food ad, banner or otherwise, I've ever seen. At least they left that fucking miserable carnivorus clown off of it.

Did you know your stealing food right off Apache's dinner table?

Ooops, better watch that. We know where he shits.
#32 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-07-14 19:58:53
warren@epicgames.com epicboy.flipcode.com
Darkseid-D (#30):
yes, and ?

now you can watch it again without having to pay $7 for a ticket and $2 for a packet of raisinettes.

foo.

Nothing ... I meant nothing by it, I swear!  :)

#33 by "Martin"
2001-07-14 20:00:14
martin@theplace.nu http://martin.theplace.nu
All you smartey programmar men out there, decode this and let the rest of us know what the hell it does. (It's supposed to be C, and in working order too.)
#34 by "Jeremy Witt"
2001-07-14 21:04:19
kimsbitch@succubae.com
It writes:

On the first day of Christmas my true love gave to me
a partridge in a pear tree.

On the second day of Christmas my true love gave to me
two turtle doves
and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the third day of Christmas my true love gave to me
three french hens, two turtle doves
and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the fourth day of Christmas my true love gave to me
four calling birds, three french hens, two turtle doves
and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the fifth day of Christmas my true love gave to me
five gold rings;
four calling birds, three french hens, two turtle doves
and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the sixth day of Christmas my true love gave to me
six geese a-laying, five gold rings;
four calling birds, three french hens, two turtle doves
and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the seventh day of Christmas my true love gave to me
seven swans a-swimming,
six geese a-laying, five gold rings;
four calling birds, three french hens, two turtle doves
and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the eighth day of Christmas my true love gave to me
eight maids a-milking, seven swans a-swimming,
six geese a-laying, five gold rings;
four calling birds, three french hens, two turtle doves
and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the ninth day of Christmas my true love gave to me
nine ladies dancing, eight maids a-milking, seven swans a-swimming,
six geese a-laying, five gold rings;
four calling birds, three french hens, two turtle doves
and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the tenth day of Christmas my true love gave to me
ten lords a-leaping,
nine ladies dancing, eight maids a-milking, seven swans a-swimming,
six geese a-laying, five gold rings;
four calling birds, three french hens, two turtle doves
and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the eleventh day of Christmas my true love gave to me
eleven pipers piping, ten lords a-leaping,
nine ladies dancing, eight maids a-milking, seven swans a-swimming,
six geese a-laying, five gold rings;
four calling birds, three french hens, two turtle doves
and a partridge in a pear tree.

On the twelfth day of Christmas my true love gave to me
twelve drummers drumming, eleven pipers piping, ten lords a-leaping,
nine ladies dancing, eight maids a-milking, seven swans a-swimming,
six geese a-laying, five gold rings;
four calling birds, three french hens, two turtle doves
and a partridge in a pear tree.

HTH
#35 by "jartotheface"
2001-07-14 21:15:56
daleron@earthlink.net
#33 by Martin

All you smartey programmar men out there, decode this and let the rest of us know what the hell it does. (It's supposed to be C, and in working order too.)


It sings a Christmas carol.

On a side note, while I admire Gamespy's attempt to cover up those shitty cartoon drawings and Fargo's retarded journalism with gigantic banner ads, most scripts, which are used to spawn banner ads, can be sent back to hell where they belong with any decent web proxy.

Example: proxmitron

If not because banner ads are genuinely the most annoying part of any web page, use one because Java, flash movies, background music, and layers are a blight on good HTML.

Thank you.
#36 by "AnalFissure"
2001-07-14 21:37:45
Ashiran wrote:

Does Gamespy Arcade has spyware?


Yes, if you don't catch it, after the install finishes and you reboot it will install this. The funny thing is, the install is set to run with the command line parameter "/silent", but a progress bar still flashed on the screen for a second, for me. Only reason I found it.

I've since downloaded Ad-Aware, it's a cool little anti-virus-type program for spyware, and it'll get rid of things like the webhancer "software" mentioned above.
#37 by "Rambar"
2001-07-14 21:38:19
From the proxmitron site...
In an attempt to support my favorite band I made the default value point to the Shonen Knife home page. Unfortunately this has caused them to receive email from confused and angry web masters wondering why this link was showing in their logs. For this I sincerely apologize.

Hmm know of a web proxy with some integrity? :)
#38 by "Spatula Man"
2001-07-14 21:40:23
llama@verbalchilli.com www.verbalchilli.com
jartotheface: "those shitty cartoon drawings and Fargo's retarded journalism."

Each to his own, but those two things are the only reason to ever visit GS. The Daily Victim, whilst not consistently hilarious, has almost blown my hernia on occasions.
#39 by "Foogla"
2001-07-14 22:17:36
Foogla@gmx.de
Rambar: rofl! :)
#40 by "crash"
2001-07-15 00:43:36
crash@planetcrap.com
BarneyQue, 24:

And crash, what's this about a blocker? Did you know your stealing food right off Apache's dinner table?

if i ever visited VE, that might be an issue. also, if i still worked for gamecenter (go ahead, click it; see where it goes), that might be an issue.

but i don't, and i don't. if the content is good, i turn the blocker off. there are sites that warrant that. there are very few. this is one of them, even though it's somewhat irrelevant. :)

and as much as i hate to send traffic their way, i got the best laugh from this.
#41 by "Whisp"
2001-07-15 01:43:13
#40 crash wrote...
and as much as i hate to send traffic their way, i got the best laugh from this.

In summary:
"If it didn't suck, it would be awesome!"

Truly sickening.  Sounds like PR spin cycle BS.

Part of the first paragraph:
It's safe to say that Funcom's online role-playing game, Anarchy Online, has been one of the most widely and eagerly anticipated games this year. After all, it's the first so-called next-generation online role-playing game and the first to be released after its groundbreaking predecessors--EverQuest, Asheron's Call, and Ultima Online--and it should be the first to improve upon them. Up until Anarchy Online's release, press coverage of the game discussed its unique science-fiction setting, its intriguing playable characters, its innovative solutions to common gameplay problems, and its enormous and colorful gameworld.

It doesn't get any better.  

-Whisp
#42 by "JMCDaveL"
2001-07-15 05:41:39
jmcdavel@mailandnews.com http://www.cosmicrift.com
Just how many  "first next generation"'s do we get these days... when EQ came out they said the same thing, then Asherons Call, etc...

Online games are nothing new, just the idiots playing some are.

--jmc
#43 by "Creole Ned"
2001-07-15 06:32:47
cned@telus.net
"And if you can get around the game's significant--and sometimes showstopping--technical and registration problems, you'll come to understand why so many people who paid the game's substantial release price of $50 want to play so badly."

I want to say something about how things in the PC game industry will never get better if people keep putting up with this sort of nonsense, as the reviewer seems to. But then, crash has done the very same thing himself, detailing to us the technical nightmares of the game while continuing to pay and play. Perhaps the link to Gamespot is atonement for his sins. ;)
#44 by "crash"
2001-07-15 07:01:26
crash@planetcrap.com

I want to say something about how things in the PC game industry will never get better if people keep putting up with this sort of nonsense, as the reviewer seems to. But then, crash has done the very same thing himself, detailing to us the technical nightmares of the game while continuing to pay and play. Perhaps the link to Gamespot is atonement for his sins. ;)

one entirely huge difference here, Creole Ned, and not to belabor the point too much, but it's this:

i knew what i was getting into when i chose to purchase the game. i was and am an informed consumer, intimately familiar with this genre, these launches, and the amount of work and sweat it takes to get and keep these things running.

the question i have is this: would a consumer seeking to inform themselves about this game have the same outlook i did after reading that review? would they realize that installing the patches isn't a question of minutes, but of hours, and perhaps days? would they realize that the game has such a horrid memory leak that playing continuously for more than two or three hours is--in point of fact--nearly impossible? would they understand that the recommended reqs for this game--to play it, not just watch the slideshow--are, currently, a P3-933 or higher with 512MB+ of RAM and a 32MB+ GeForce-2-Ultra+ generation video card? would they truly know that playing this game is more frustration than fun?

that's what bothers me the most about it. it glosses over a number of serious, serious issues--game-breakers, show-stoppers, whatever--to paint a rosy picture of "what if"s and "what might be"s.

i was under the impression that a review was an unjaundiced critique of a game's features, stability, playability, and overall fun. i guess, as usual, i was wrong.
#45 by "Chet"
2001-07-15 07:18:17
chet@whenitsdone.com http://www.oldmanmurray.com
On the ad.

Its only on the homepage - so I could care less.  Considering I never type in gamespy but normally arrive from a news site link, I have never seen it.  I like it much more than near daily radar's end  - the had 2-3 regular popups on every page.

This is easy, actually less obtrusive then popups or popunders.  I never have to change my active window to turn it off.  I don't have a mess to click closed after visiting a site, its even easier than ign's forcing you to register.

I have seen them on a few sites, excite used it on holidays for a while, they use dhtml to deliver the content.  The biggest company creating/serving these and may have made them up is called eyeblaster.  

They don't bug me, but then banner ads have never bugged me and popups and popunders have never bugged me enough to block them.

Chet
#46 by "szcx"
2001-07-15 07:29:25
leslie@sweetfuckingchrist.com www.whatwouldjesusdrive.com
This article is almost as entertaining as the review crash posted.

The servers managed to survive having 100,000 people being added for stress testing purposes, and although lagged, they remained relatively stable. The lag problems were fixed in a recent server patch, and in general the quality of the Beta experience has been improving in the run up to release.

There's a good chance that you don't believe a word I have said. I know some people are almost expecting Anarchy Online to spend the first three months with the same problems that have dogged the Beta version.

So rather than asking you to simply believe what I am saying, I'd like to invite you to come and ask the developers yourself...


"Hi, I'm Serious Gaming Journalist™ Alex "Spacial" Cowan.  Funcom said their game rocks and I believe them because game companies always tell the truth.  Since I believe them, you should too.  I'm a Serious Gaming Journalist™ after all, and you, are not."
#47 by "None-1a"
2001-07-15 08:39:02
none1a@home.com http://www.geocities.com/none-1a
#11 "AnalFissure" wrote...
I was accosted by the same type of uber pop-up banner ad for the very first time today. I visited zeroping.com for a file download early this morning, when this thing popped up. It had a 4 minute timer on it that slowly started to count down to zero, and as far as I could tell, there was no other way to close it besides clicking on it, or waiting for the time to run out.


This one's a little different. Those ads pop up a new window, these popups stick it into the same window (the ones your talking about are apparently very easy to stop from coming up as they don't show up on my system, but I've seen a few of the sites I visit using them on other systems, not sure exactly what I have set differently).

#45 "Chet" wrote...
I have seen them on a few sites, excite used it on holidays for a while, they use dhtml to deliver the content. The biggest company creating/serving these and may have made them up is called eyeblaster.


I love the eyeblaster FAQ, quoted from the section dealing with compatability

"Currently, Eyeblaster campaigns can be viewed by 80 of all Internet users."

Wow a whole 80 people, hehe. Yeah I know it's supposted to have a % in there, but it's still funny.

#48 by "Gestalt"
2001-07-15 09:30:15
john@eurogamer.net http://www.eurogamer.net
crash - "a P3-933 or higher with 512MB+ of RAM and a 32MB+ GeForce-2-Ultra+ generation video card"

To be fair, the beta ran just fine on my old P3-600, 192Mb RAM, 32Mb GeForce 2 GTS, except in the crowded cities. Of course, things could have got worse since it launched to the public.


szcx - "This article is almost as entertaining as the review crash posted"

LOL! Nice...


Um .. and being vaguely on topic for a change, the ITV F1 site used to have a similar annoying pop-in ad featuring a bunch of racing cars skidding across your screen with no obvious way to get rid of them. It wasn't as obtrusive as that McD one though. Eugh. Still, they've got a mainstream company to advertise on their site, and there is at least a "close window" button there, which is more than can be said for some of these ads.

What's even more annoying is when that kind of shit appears on your own site though. We spent half this week trying to get some Casino On Net pop-ups removed from circulation on EuroGamer, but despite turning them off on our own control panel and getting our ad provider to switch them off at their end, some were still getting through. Bloody irritating. :( And they keep coming back every few weeks whatever we do. It's rapidly getting to the point where the pitiful amount of money we get paid to run the ads just isn't compensation enough for annoying our readers (and us!) when a pop-up gets sneaked into circulation without our permission.
#49 by "TheToadWarrior"
2001-07-15 09:31:23
toadwarrior@hotmail.com http://www.toadwarrior.org
Ashiran (#15):
Does Gamespy Arcade has spyware?


Yes, webhancer = faggy spyware
#50 by "TheToadWarrior"
2001-07-15 09:35:55
toadwarrior@hotmail.com http://www.toadwarrior.org
I hate those ads that take up the whole screen so you can't close it or anything until they decide that you can.

Ads are getting gayer and gayer. I'll never click on one of the new ones. Supporting them  is like supporting ball cancer.
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