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Hey there, cutie! Wanna see my Nano Dispenser?
June 14th 2001, 16:06 CEST by Morn

<img src="/images/misc/ao_sexor.jpg" border="1" align="right" width="185" height="300">You know, I'm German, and that makes me just a little bit weird by default, but maybe I'm especially weird, strange, sick, and you may even call me sexually insecure, because I like playing female characters in games. Even in multiplayer games. Just like Anarchy Online, which everybody seems to be playing these days, sharing their accounts with a dozen friends, too.

Anyway, back to the topic... yes, I like running around as a girl. No, not to be able to spend hours looking at the back of a beautifully rendered, curved female player model, but because I just like doing things a tiny little bit different.

So what's this thread about? Sexual harassment in online games! Yes, it's a bit weird for a guy to talk about being sexually harassed as a girl by other guys. What a mind bending experience.

Whereever my female Doctor character, Drea, shows up, the comments range from "Hey, cool shades!" to "LET ME PLUG MY BOOMSTICK +5 INTO YOUR NANO CONTROLLER UNIT". How fun. Then again, I may have been <a href="http://www.morncam.com/stuff/ao/">asking for it</a>, too. Either way, it feels weird. Especially when they ask me if I'm a girl in real life and then get hit by the cold club of truth +7. Actually, I told one of them I was a girl, and he promptly asked me for a real life date.

So I've been wondering... do any of the female MMORPG players play male characters in order to avoid situations like the ones I described above? Maybe all the male characters in AO are really girls? Maybe I really want to be a woman? I have pain in my brain!

Online games suck, don't they.

» boys pretending to be girls;
» girls pretending to be boys;
» 12 year old school boys grouping with bearded 50 year old IT geeks...

Online games are weird. They mess with your head, and thus mess with your world. As these games will become more and more realistic and immersive over time, things will be getting more and more strange. It's a crazy, crazy (online) world.
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#1 by "Matt Gallant"
2001-06-14 16:12:12
mg@tmbg.org http://truemeaningoflife.com
My girlfriend plays a girl.
I, as a boy, play a boy.

Then again, we're not German. (well, she's got a German name and  a bit of German ancestry)
#2 by "Morn"
2001-06-14 16:14:59
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
Maybe your girlfriend... is... no... girl...?

- Morn :P
#3 by "Martin"
2001-06-14 16:19:04
martin@theplace.nu http://martin.theplace.nu
Nice of you to get some interracial action going on in the shot as well to spice things up even more. 9)
#4 by "UncleJeet"
2001-06-14 16:22:24
jeet@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
Why they don't include Hemaphrodite in the gender options, I'll never know.  Actually, it would be interesting to see how graphical MMORPGS would go about trying to implement Neuters from MUDs.  K.D. Lang, anyone?

Uncle Jeet
#5 by "BuccAneeR"
2001-06-14 16:24:42
buccaneer@planetcrap.com http://www.konsumsklave.de
We need a PlanetCrap Sexual Harassment Panda.
#6 by "Dungeoneer"
2001-06-14 16:39:53
http://www.mystics.de
Actually, Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation.
#7 by "Dungeoneer"
2001-06-14 16:40:28
http://www.mystics.de
Actually, Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation.
#8 by "Dungeoneer"
2001-06-14 16:44:03
http://www.mystics.de
Actually, Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation.
#9 by "Dungeoneer"
2001-06-14 16:44:18
http://www.mystics.de
Actually, Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation.
#10 by "Dungeoneer"
2001-06-14 16:44:34
http://www.mystics.de
Actually, Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation.
#11 by "Dungeoneer"
2001-06-14 16:44:46
http://www.mystics.de
Actually, Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation.
#12 by "fatgraham"
2001-06-14 16:47:25
graham@deadpenguin.org http://www.deadpenguin.org
i still think its "fruity"
#13 by "Dungeoneer"
2001-06-14 16:47:35
http://www.mystics.de
Actually, Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation.
#14 by "Jeremy Witt"
2001-06-14 16:53:41
kimsbitch@succubae.com
I really wish Anarchy Online had neuters in character generation.
#15 by "LPMiller"
2001-06-14 16:59:17
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Does AO have neuters in character generation?

LPMiller
Chief News Editor
GotApex?
#16 by "Matt Gallant"
2001-06-14 17:00:36
mg@tmbg.org http://truemeaningoflife.com
Oh wowee wow wow, does CrapSpy need fixin'. Dungeoneer, the post gets sent even when there's an error message.
#17 by "Matt Gallant"
2001-06-14 17:02:02
mg@tmbg.org http://truemeaningoflife.com
There is one "androgynous" race. They all look like Jason Hall though.
#18 by "Blood_GC"
2001-06-14 17:13:40
blood@roflmao.com www.roflmao.com
I played a girl char but didn't tell most people what I was in real life, even if asked.  Only a couple people I told, and even then I said I was a girl.
It wasn't till after I quit the game (EQ) that I told them what /who I really was.
#19 by "Eyegore"
2001-06-14 17:32:04
borghead@hotmail.com
My wife was watching me play AO, put 2 and 2 together, and bought 2 EverQuest CDs from wal-mart for 9.95 each so we could play online together.  So now I'm playing EQ for the first time.  I like it so far, but it's obviously a graphical front-end to a MUD system.  I used to play MUD/MOO games a lot and got used to seeing male characters give special favors in the form of money and/or free equiptment to female chars just because they're female.  I figure most male players plaing females are trying to capitalize on this strange sexist phenomenon.   So last night when my wife and I are walking together in the elf village I ask someone for directions and he tells me where to go and gives my wife's char some platinum pieces for no apparent reason.  He even had to offer it twice because she didn't get the trade interface at first.  She thought it was funny when I told her later that she probably got paid for being female.
#20 by "Eyegore"
2001-06-14 17:33:02
borghead@hotmail.com
Did someone say Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation?
#21 by "Gabe"
2001-06-14 17:43:00
gakruger@hotmail.com http://www.refracted.com
There is a breed called Atrox that is neuter, or as they say, androgynous. All the other breeds you choose male or female.
#22 by "Sgt Hulka"
2001-06-14 17:55:54
Sgt_Hulka@Hulka.com http://www.hulka.com
I pray that Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation!
#23 by "Jeremy Witt"
2001-06-14 18:00:50
kimsbitch@succubae.com
Eyegore, you live in Crime Hills? Either that or your local ISP hub is just 'on the other side of the tracks' from here...
#24 by "^mortis^"
2001-06-14 18:56:33
http://www.goddamnindependent.com
#19:  i have several friends who play EQ all the time. (is there any other way to play it?)  2 of them are girls and play female elf characters.  They ALWAYS get $$$ from strangers, and the few people who've found out they're actually female IRL usually offer up EVEN MORE $$$ or inventory!  

As an experiment, another friend (male) started playing ONLY female characters in order to GET all the free loot the girl-friendly players were giving out.  He usually TELLS them he's a woman IRL, and that he's 17 and without a boyfriend.  (and uses LOTS of smileys and !!! and LOL/ROFL/etc. when he chats to them.)  He must be fairly convincing, because he finally had to stop playing the character to avoid all of the attention.

^m^
#25 by "Battle-Dwarf"
2001-06-14 18:57:06
Planetcrap.com... ...the web pages of outrageous!
Quote:
[Online games are weird. They mess with your head, and thus mess with your world. As these games will become more and more realistic and immersive over time, things will be getting more and more strange. It's a crazy, crazy (online) world.]

Sounds like _my_ kinda place!  =)

the male battle-dwarf
#26 by "Battle-Dwarf"
2001-06-14 19:10:24
Planetcrap.com... ...the web pages of outrageous!
Quote:
[#19: i have several friends who play EQ all the time. (is there any other way to play it?) 2 of them are girls and play female elf characters. They ALWAYS get $$$ from strangers, and the few people who've found out they're actually female IRL usually offer up EVEN MORE $$$ or inventory!]

If this doesn't sound 'true to life'---I don't know what does!  =)

T_HE M_ALE B_ATTLE-_DWARF
#27 by "shaithis"
2001-06-14 19:38:45
chrisb@gamespy.com http://www.gamespy.com
The first Asheron's Call character I made was a chick - specifically for the purpose of getting more loot. Played it for two hours, got all kinds of favors from people in town, and promptly deleted it. I felt like I was living a lie. =)

I played a male character for six months, and enjoyed it far more. Every time someone gave me some extra cash, or some spare inventory, I felt like they were doing it because they liked/respected me, and not because I had polygonal tits.

Then I wised up and stopped playing MMORPGs entirely. =)

-shai
#28 by "tsfr"
2001-06-14 19:42:57
tsfr@zombieworld.com www.planetblah.com
#19: i have several friends who play EQ all the time. (is there any other way to play it?) 2 of them are girls and play female elf characters. They ALWAYS get $$$ from strangers, and the few people who've found out they're actually female IRL usually offer up EVEN MORE $$$ or inventory!


Christ, even online.....(AW)^2
#29 by "Ranulf"
2001-06-14 20:53:52
www.planetcrap.com
AO is the first MMORPG I've played. First time I logged into AO after making a male doctor character, it crashes 2 minutes after I appear in Neutral Town or whatever. Next day, I log in and after a minute of standing around figuring out how to pick my nose and do a dance a female character private messages me, and wants my opinion on her arse size. Apparently she (or he?) clicked the wrong button in the DNA machine and gave her(his) character the "super booty" size. I thought games were supposed to allow me to escape RL. At least in the game I can be honest and say, yes you have a big fat ass.
#30 by "brennan"
2001-06-14 20:57:59
scott.gs@home.com
Look, this is all well and good, but I think we're all wondering whether Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation.

-brennan
#31 by "NikNak"
2001-06-14 21:17:32
niknak@strategyplanet.com
I'm not sure, but I think I read somewhere that Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation.
#32 by "funkdrunk"
2001-06-14 21:24:41
jflavius@bellatlantic.net
Tonight's Final Jeopardy answer, "Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation".
#33 by "None-1a"
2001-06-14 21:45:32
none1a@home.com http://www.geocities.com/none-1a
#32 "funkdrunk" wrote...
Tonight's Final Jeopardy answer, "Anarchy Online HAS Neuters in Character Generation".


Alex: So what do you have?
Me: Does AO have neuters in character generation?
Alex: So how much did you wager?
Me: All of it Alex.
Alex: I'm sorry your a dumb ass, wait the judges are telling me I may in fact be a dumb ass.
#34 by "crash"
2001-06-14 22:15:20
crash@planetcrap.com
generally speaking, you get the treatment in mmorpgs that you encourage, and it's sort of related to real life through a fish-eye lens. for instance, Morn, if a girl goes runnin around in a thong and midriff shirt in real life, i assure you the treatment you're gettin in AO is as nothing compared to what you will get IRL.

as for how many guys play girls and vice versa in mmorpgs, there are plenty of studies and surveys on 'em. once i dig up a link to one that's kinda recent (i remember it being linked on lum's in a thread, but i can't seem to find it now) i'll post it. Fun Fact For EQ Players: statistically (using, like, real statistical analysis), 48% of the female characters you see in the game at any given time are being played by males.

for myself, in AC, i've got a pretty even split. about half my chars are male, half are female. my current main character is female, with my secondary male. two of my mules are male, and the other is female. doesn't really much matter to me what the avatar is or what the gender of the person at the keyboard is... but then i'm not 13 years old with my dick in my hand, either. so your mileage may vary.

in mmorpgs, your best bet is to cheerfully take things at face value. it's called "suspension of disbelief." the only thing that pisses me off about guys RPing girls is when it's clear they have no fucking clue whatsoever how to do so.
#35 by "Gunp01nt"
2001-06-14 22:31:07
supersimon33@hotmail.com http://blbs.webjump.com
Oh come on Morn! you're making it VERY obvious that you're a guy. The only reason why AO players believe you're female is because of wishful thinking (and because Drea is much more attractive to a 13 year old geek than Hendrik :) ).

Come to think of it, your name is Dutch. If you want your German-being to be more credible, at least change your name to Heinrich!
Es ist mir Wurst Wurst Wurst!
#36 by "mcgrew"
2001-06-14 23:31:27
NOSPAMmcgrew@famvid.com theFragfest.com
You think YOU'RE weird, Morn? I may be the only person on the internet that goes by his real name! Um, except cliffyB...

And I'm not 50 yet, and I cut off my beard about 5 or 10 years ago when it started getting gray, the mustache goes next... then I guess I'll have to shave my head

I don't play rpgs but when I'm online with Q2 (I don't have any custoom UT skins) I like playing sexless characters, like coconut monkey, or that big spider character, or my favorite BAUUL! It's funny how ppl react to different skins, even sexless ones. The Bauul model has people running away, kinda dumb since it's so big and easy to shoot. The spider one is even bigger and uglier, but ppl don't run from it. Can't figure out why.

I also can't figure out the difference when wearing the coconut monkey model. Players in male skins ignore it, while players in female skins hunt it down like a dog. I NEVER used that but once or twice in the afternoon during the week when the housewives are online, they kick my ass!

Come to think of it, does anybody have an ass or an elephant skin for q2 or UT?
-steve
#37 by "MCorleone"
2001-06-14 23:56:46
john_st123@hotmail.com
Yikes!  MornPorn!  I think I see why you get that reaction, Morn!  You're an AO-Slut!
#38 by "mcgrew"
2001-06-15 01:16:26
NOSPAMmcgrew@famvid.com theFragfest.com
zonealarm went off... now I know who it is, not worried, it's a friend. Back in amsterdam, eh? Wish I was there with you, dude! Hey, just mail me and I'll send you whatever files you want
#39 by "kizu"
2001-06-15 01:31:47
http://opensource.planetcrap.com
I have a thing for trannies. But only online trannies, because IRL trannies have stubble and goofy makeup.

Let me make this clearer: MornPorn makes me mourn porn that doesn't contain Morn.
Every boring morning I am prone to score porn about boning Morn.
Fornicating Morn is pornier than corn on the cob is cornier than MornPorn makes me hornier.
#40 by "BATTLE-DWARF"
2001-06-15 01:40:59
yeah, yeah...ummm---I'd like... ...a furry taco, please.
Quote:
[: MornPorn makes me mourn porn that doesn't contain Morn.
Every boring morning I am prone to score porn about boning Morn.
Fornicating Morn is pornier than corn on the cob is cornier than MornPorn makes me hornier.]

Vewy, vewy pun-ny puddy taa-at!

T_H_E  M_A_L_E  B_A_T_T_L_E-dwarf
#41 by "UnionCarbide"
2001-06-15 01:46:24
smythe@bangg.org http://www.bangg.org
Hey, Morn, try /prostrate for a good time :)
#42 by "shaithis"
2001-06-15 02:00:29
chrisb@gamespy.com http://www.gamespy.com
try it without the second "r" for a... err... different time

-shai
#43 by "bagofmice"
2001-06-15 02:31:04
rcastle@microsoft.com
Will that be 2 fingers? or three?
#44 by "JeffD"
2001-06-15 03:38:54
jeffd@fags.gamersangst.com
Those pictures prove that even pretend online women are whores.
#45 by "Dethstryk"
2001-06-15 04:34:19
jemartin@tcainternet.com
JeffD (#44):
Those pictures prove that even pretend online women are whores.

Let's not even get this one started again. ;)


--
Dethstryk
#46 by "Gabe"
2001-06-15 04:55:20
gakruger@hotmail.com
Morn! You are a whore! I was just looking at your screenshots and promiscuous doesn't even begin to describe you.
#47 by "Dinglehoffen"
2001-06-15 07:00:16
Piss off f
If the Neutro characters all look like Jason Hall, then don't expect the skin to be patched. Ever.
#48 by "Quicken"
2001-06-15 07:35:26
geoffrey@access.com.au http://www.warmage.com/
#46 Gabe:
Morn! You are a whore! I was just looking at your screenshots and promiscuous doesn't even begin to describe you.


Gotta agree. I've seen it a fair bit on chats/muds/moos etc. Happens fairly often. Guy acting out a sexual fantasy as the opposite sex. Doesn't mean nessasarly Morn wants to be a girl but does mean if he could, for a day, just to see what it was like (especially sex) he'd go for it. So instead it's done online where people can easily act out such fantasies. Although generally they don't go telling the world about it!

Morn. Have you tried playing a girl that wasn't sexually over active? If not then how far are you willing to take this obsession?
#49 by "Gestalt"
2001-06-15 10:21:29
john@eurogamer.net http://www.eurogamer.net
"The Bauul model has people running away, kinda dumb since it's so big and easy to shoot"

Actually it's harder to shoot, because the model is bigger than the bounding box and so if you shoot towards the edges of the model the shot will go straight through it without causing any damage. :) Sorry, pet peeve of mine from my Quake 2 modding days...
#50 by "Darren Coleman"
2001-06-15 10:58:04
durzel@barrysworld.com http://www.superficial.net
Man, I didn't even realise half of the stuff in Morn's \"Gallery of Shame\" was even possible in AO.  Am I right in thinking the various poses/positions of Drea are nothing to do with.. *ahem*.. the acts being carried out and are merely optical illusions?.. or does stuff like /oral exist?  Should I get out more?
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