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May 23rd 2001, 15:51 CEST by Morn

No real topic here, just some <i>misc crap</i>. :)

» There's a new toy here on PC: <a href="mailto:martin@theplace.nu">Martin Edelius</a> has created the amazingly accurate <a href="http://www.planetcrap.com/pctg/">PlanetCrap Topic Generator</a>. Next time the stream of new topics dries up, I'll just grab something from there.

» I have finally joined the ranks of world-wide Internet exhibitionists and set up a live <a href="http://www.booyaya.de/morncam/">MornCam</a>. Run for your lives!

» I've been thinking about organizing a little PlanetCrap party to take place at this year's ECTS in London. How many of you would at least be interested in attending?

That's all for now!
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#1 by "Michael Wedge"
2001-05-23 15:53:59
Quatoria@hardnews.org www.hardnews.org
#0 "Morn" wrote...
I've been thinking about organizing a little PlanetCrap party to take place at this year's ECTS in London. How many of you would at least be interested in attending?

I'd consider attending if you'd consider paying my airfare and hotel charges.
#2 by "Martin"
2001-05-23 15:55:55
martin@theplace.nu
PC party @ ECTS: No matter how insanely fun this sounds, I'm all out of time and money. 8( I'd love to be there but I just don't see it happen...
#3 by "The Joker"
2001-05-23 15:58:32
joker@junkextreme.com http://www.junkextreme.com
Heeeeey! I see MORN! How about some striptease action dude?! Let's go, put on the music mon!!

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behavior.
- All your ass are belong to my wang, Jafd! Prepare to are penetration!
#4 by "Morn"
2001-05-23 15:59:23
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
Okay, I guess most of you are going to ask me something in the lines of "why not at E3?". Well, if I come to E3 2002 (which I'm not sure about yet), I'll try to get something organized there as well, but right now I'm an ECTS only man so ECTS it is. At least for now. I'm aware this really limits the group of people who'll be able to attend. (And no, I'm not going to pay anyone anything... I wish I could, but hey, it's little old me! :b  I'm really just talking to everyone who's going to be at ECTS anyway. Or lives in the UK. Or is filthy rich.)

- Morn
#5 by "MaverickUK"
2001-05-23 16:02:06
peter.bridger@tpg.co.uk http://www.thisstrife.com/
Agh! It moves!

How about a wave and smile Morn! =)

--
Mav
\"What kinda shithole planet is this!?\"
#6 by "Martin"
2001-05-23 16:10:30
martin@theplace.nu http://martin.thepalce.nu
I got to see some pussy earlier on and if you keep watching you might catch a glimpse of it as well... 8P
#7 by "The Joker"
2001-05-23 16:12:02
joker@junkextreme.com http://www.junkextreme.com
Hey Morn, what was that on that piece of paper?!
God I seriously need a life, I'm still watching Morn...

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behavior.
- All your ass are belong to my wang, JafD! Prepare to are penetration!
#8 by "The Joker"
2001-05-23 16:14:39
joker@junkextreme.com http://www.junkextreme.com
Martin (#6):
I got to see some pussy earlier on and if you keep watching you might catch a glimpse of it as well... 8P


That is so fucking unfair. Why can't I get to see that?? Morn!!

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behavior.
- All your ass are belong to my wang, JafD! Prepare to are penetration!
#9 by "Martin"
2001-05-23 16:44:35
martin@theplace.nu http://martin.theplace.nu
#8: Believe me, nothing to get especially excited about. 8)
#10 by "Sgt Hulka"
2001-05-23 16:55:35
Sgt_Hulka@Hulka.com http://www.hulka.com
I checked out the Morncam, Looks like Morn works a 1-900 service while computing with that space age headset/microphone thingie on.
#11 by "Sgt Hulka"
2001-05-23 17:16:57
Sgt_Hulka@Hulka.com http://www.hulka.com
At least with the Morncam I can tell what time it currently is in Germany

<Gabe says:> Roundabout way to do it, but cool.

Hey, It's always important to know what time it is in Germany, in case they decide to attack Pearl Harbor again!
#12 by "PiMuRho"
2001-05-23 17:20:34
ECTS? I'll be there (hopefully). Most of you lot scare me though, so I'll just observe from a distance I think :)
#13 by "MaverickUK"
2001-05-23 17:39:24
peter.bridger@tpg.co.uk http://www.thisstrife.com/
*Yuck!* I just saw Morn pick his head, then look out what he found! =)
....at least he didn't eat it.... Yet!

--
Mav
\"What kinda shithole planet is this!?\"
#14 by "Finn"
2001-05-23 18:09:11
Well, i'm always up for and ECTS pissup, just say where and when.
I'll try and drag along a few TFT'ers :)


Finn..
#15 by "ynohtna"
2001-05-23 18:13:23
ynohtna@ynohtna.org http://www.ynohtna.org/
I won't be inside ECTS this year, but I'm always up for one or two dozen drinks if you guys want to venture outside the exhibition.
#16 by "PiMuRho"
2001-05-23 18:32:17
Why not inside, as a matter of interest?
#17 by "szcx"
2001-05-23 18:43:26
szcx@bersirc.com we.are.all.just.a.bunch.of.fuckingmonkeys.com
The Slashdot Story Generator is so accurate, it's creepy.
#18 by "The Joker"
2001-05-23 18:57:37
joker@junkextreme.com http://www.junkextreme.com
All we need now is KAKcam. I want it, my Johnson wants it, and I know Gunp01nt wants it.

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behavior.
- All your ass are belong to my wang, Jafd! Prepare to are penetration!
#19 by "JMCDaveL"
2001-05-23 19:10:50
jmcdavel@mailandnews.com http://www.comp-u-geek.net/
Need to fix the "Sid Meyer" stuff.. geesh... fun little thingie though.

It's a german cam, so where is the scat?

--jmc
#20 by "MCorleone"
2001-05-23 19:34:57
john_st123@hotmail.com www.oldmanmurray.com
19: JESUS NO!!

What did they say in S.P.  The Movie?  "German Scheisser Videos?"
#21 by "Ergo"
2001-05-23 19:50:16
stu@dsl-only.net
#19 "JMCDaveL" wrote...
It's a german cam, so where is the scat?

From South Park: The Movie:

Cartman: "Mom, were you ever in a German scheisse video?"
#22 by "ynohtna"
2001-05-23 20:18:15
PiMuRho:
Why not inside, as a matter of interest?

No big reason - just that I now longer work in the games industry and I can't be bothered to blag a ticket.

Maybe we should have a non-ECTS UK piss-up for the 'crap crew... Like a good game-geek, I can frequently be found getting very, very slaughtered at The Playing Fields.
#23 by "ynohtna"
2001-05-23 20:33:22
JMCDaveL:
It's a german cam, so where is the scat?

Bring up the morncam, click on the home link, clink on `cha-ching', click on the happy smiling Sandra, follow her web-cam link, and look for the pop-up (argh!) browser window named `Webcam-PLaza' (sic).

You're never more than five links away from pr0n on the 'net...

Well, that's my excuse.
#24 by "Narcopolo"
2001-05-23 20:57:59
Martin, it's brilliant.  Instant send-up. =)
#25 by "Luke "Theseus" Nockles"
2001-05-23 21:01:04
theseus@cpgaming.com
ECTS seems a probability to me this year after blagging some contract work a while back.. ..Better excuse than many for entry.
#26 by "None-1a"
2001-05-23 21:05:29
none1a@home.com http://www.geocities.com/none-1a
#0 "Morn" wrote...
I've been thinking about organizing a little PlanetCrap party to take place at this year's ECTS in London. How many of you would at least be interested in attending?


Interested yes, able no. Then again after seeing Morncam that might be a good thing, I really don't think I want to know what the rest of the people here look like :)
#27 by "Speed"
2001-05-24 01:00:26
speed@crew.fragland.net http://www.fragland.net
I'll be attending ECTS this year like I did last year.
Dunno which day yet though. If PC party is the same day I'm in London I'll stop by ;)

Speed
http://www.fragland.net
#28 by "Preacher"
2001-05-24 01:39:43
preacher@unreality.org http://www.unreality.org
Ahh.. A euro party at ECTS... If I'm there, I will teach you young bucks a thing or two about anal sex.. or beer drinking.
#29 by "Dethstryk"
2001-05-24 01:56:29
jemartin@tcainternet.com
Preacher (#28):
Ahh.. A euro party at ECTS... If I'm there, I will teach you young bucks a thing or two about anal sex.. or beer drinking.

The anal sex part is absolutely beautiful coming from someone whose nick is "Preacher". ;)


--
Dethstryk
#30 by "The Joker"
2001-05-24 05:04:28
joker@junkextreme.com http://www.junkextreme.com
Preacher (#28):
Ahh.. A euro party at ECTS... If I'm there, I will teach you young bucks a thing or two about anal sex.. or beer drinking.


Teach me about anal sex huh? You probably should take a closer look at my sig.

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behavior.
- All your ass are belong to my wang, Jafd! Prepare to are penetration!
#31 by "Preacher"
2001-05-24 05:15:24
preacher@unreality.org http://www.unreality.org
Homo :)
#32 by "None-1a"
2001-05-24 06:37:38
none1a@home.com http://www.geocities.com/none-1a
#30 "The Joker" wrote...
Teach me about anal sex huh? You probably should take a closer look at my sig.
Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behavior.
- All your ass are belong to my wang, Jafd! Prepare to are penetration!


You know maybe you could use some more training. It has been quite a while and Jafd is still prepareing with nothing happening.
#33 by "Finn"
2001-05-24 10:49:51
So........Who's up for a drinking session (no i'm not buying:)?
#34 by "Martin"
2001-05-24 11:20:20
martin@theplace.nu http://martin.theplace.nu
#19(Without knowing what you're talking about): Sure, no problem. 8)

#24: Thanks! Appreciate it. Now, if people just could start sending in some new templates... 9)
#35 by "Martin"
2001-05-24 11:27:21
martin@theplace.nu http://martin.theplace.nu
I was about to post one of the funnier topics here in this thread but noticed that it would be quite messy to recreate the looks of the topic. I can, however, create a "PC-tag" version of the topic so that it can easliy be pasted into this, or any, thread. Should I bother with that? It shouldn't be too much work but it's not like I got free time just lying around so I need to know if anyone is interested in this at all. 8)
#36 by "Russ"
2001-05-24 18:48:56
rthcowboy@mindspring.com
I can't believe someone really did the topic generator. That's just too cool. Some of the stuff it generates is really funny. Whether or not anyone will actually want to participate in a thread generated thusly remains to be seen. Go ahead and try it. I'm going to go look into template creation now.
#37 by "Russ"
2001-05-24 18:51:34
rthcowboy@mindspring.com
#0 "Morn" wrote...
I have finally joined the ranks of world-wide Internet exhibitionists and set up a live MornCam. Run for your lives!


Morn, is it possible you don't own a comb?
#38 by "Martin"
2001-05-24 21:17:56
martin@theplace.nu http://martin.theplace.nu
#36: Russ, thanks for the feedback and thanks for the idea. 8) Any feedback on how the templates work is also more than welcome as they are a bit crude right now.
#39 by "The Joker"
2001-05-24 23:44:18
joker@junkextreme.com http://www.junkextreme.com
None-1a (#32):
#30 "The Joker" wrote...

Teach me about anal sex huh? You probably should take a closer look at my sig.
Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behavior.
- All your ass are belong to my wang, Jafd! Prepare to are penetration!


You know maybe you could use some more training. It has been quite a while and Jafd is still prepareing with nothing happening.


You mean, stuff happens, then Jafd prepares himself again, stuff happens again, then he prepares himself again, etc. etc. The guy is amazing, he doesn't get tired at all.

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behavior.
- All your ass are belong to my wang, Jafd! Prepare to are penetration!
#40 by "Keith"
2001-05-25 00:05:09
- -
Wouldn't it be nice to see Micro$oft fall flat on its face in public with regards to the X-box. I have yet to read a positive impression of the X-box on any non-X-box centric sites. While I realize that it is unfair for me to make a judgement about something that I do not have first-hand experience with but, when everyone seems to be underwhelmed...i think Micro$oft might have screwed up and BIG time. If the X-box totally fails Micro$oft will be the laughing stock of the technology world. That would be a fine day.
#41 by "G-Man"
2001-05-25 00:51:48
jonmars@earthlink.net http://www.shiftlock.org
#40 "Keith" wrote...
If the X-box totally fails Micro$oft will be the laughing stock of the technology world. That would be a fine day.

I'm not so sure. The last time Microsoft had a relatively high-profile product fail (Microsoft Bob), Gates just married the project leader. :)

 - [g.man]
#42 by "BobJustBob"
2001-05-25 02:01:25
kevinakabob@mindspring.com
Well, it looks like the XP product activation isn't going away. According to the interview, once you have upgraded your hardware to the point where you need a new unlock code, you can get one, but only a set number of times, maybe only twice. Hello Linux.
#43 by "Darkseid-D!"
2001-05-25 02:41:27
Darkseid@captured.com www.sluggy.com
Hello Linux

hello being utterly unable to run 90% of the software on the market (anyone saying well run emulation, youre still running the OS, why not just run it locally, sheesh)
hello having fuck all games (hurrah for the odd FPS and Civ, now wheres the rest?)
hello having unsupported hardware as the bright sparks havent caught up
hello howto`s of 58 pages to install an idsn card


Ill make it short, if you dont like XP, DONT FUCKING INSTALL IT, stay with 2000. Me, Ill have the MSDN/Corporate/back office version which DOESNT have the activation. Kind of like the OFfice Xp Back office edition has a key but no activation via MS.

for all the shrieking about FUD being spread by MS, it seems other parties do it almost as much.

Ds
#44 by "Warren Marshall"
2001-05-25 02:44:17
warren@epicgames.com epicboy.flipcode.com
BobJustBob (#42):
Well, it looks like the XP product activation isn't going away. According to the interview, once you have upgraded your hardware to the point where you need a new unlock code, you can get one, but only a set number of times, maybe only twice. Hello Linux.

How often do you completely upgrade your computer components?  Seriously.  From what I understand, the code is pretty forgiving ... you'd have to replace a lot before it tripped a reactivation.

And Linux?  Yeah, OK ... I'll just stick with Win2K.

#45 by "Darkseid-D!"
2001-05-25 02:51:18
Darkseid@captured.com www.sluggy.com
I did a test with the beta I have.

took the HD and moved it to a completely new motherboard, with different cpu, different video card, different network card, same sound card.

guess what

it failed.

oops, forgot to install the drivers for the via ide before I moved it.  Swap back, install drivers so itll boot, swap back.

Runs fine.

Ds
#46 by "The Joker"
2001-05-25 04:13:09
joker@junkextreme.com http://www.junkextreme.com
BobJustBob (#42):
Well, it looks like the XP product activation isn't going away. According to the interview, once you have upgraded your hardware to the point where you need a new unlock code, you can get one, but only a set number of times, maybe only twice. Hello Linux.


Microsoft will feel it. They don't listen, they will feel.
Or they won't, because people will stay calm since there will be cracks available, so why complain anyway? Let them use WPA, we'll just crack the living fuck out of it.

Darkseid-D! (#43):
Hello Linux

hello being utterly unable to run 90% of the software on the market (anyone saying well run emulation, youre still running the OS, why not just run it locally, sheesh)
hello having fuck all games (hurrah for the odd FPS and Civ, now wheres the rest?)
hello having unsupported hardware as the bright sparks havent caught up
hello howto`s of 58 pages to install an idsn card


Ill make it short, if you dont like XP, DONT FUCKING INSTALL IT, stay with 2000. Me, Ill have the MSDN/Corporate/back office version which DOESNT have the activation. Kind of like the OFfice Xp Back office edition has a key but no activation via MS.

for all the shrieking about FUD being spread by MS, it seems other parties do it almost as much.

Ds


You know, I have to agree. Linux is NOT the option here. Sticking with Win2K sounds ok. But fucking pirating WinXP and cracking it sounds fucking awesome.

Warren Marshall (#44):
BobJustBob (#42):

Well, it looks like the XP product activation isn't going away. According to the interview, once you have upgraded your hardware to the point where you need a new unlock code, you can get one, but only a set number of times, maybe only twice. Hello Linux.

How often do you completely upgrade your computer components? Seriously. From what I understand, the code is pretty forgiving ... you'd have to replace a lot before it tripped a reactivation.

And Linux? Yeah, OK ... I'll just stick with Win2K.



How about when I frikkin buy another PC and want to install XP on it, and install another windows version on the old one? How the fuck will MS support that?

Here's a problem I have right now with WinXP activation, and which I also told MS about, so far no answer from them:

- I installed WinXP clean when beta 2 came out on CD.

- I activated it online as soon as I had installed it, not through the phone line, but via the internet. When I installed WinXP then, I got a dialog asking me to activate online, and it would then dial a number, but then I got a message that online activation was not available for the country where I live. (Suriname) So I just skipped it then, set up my ISP and then activated through internet. It worked well.
After a few weeks now, I try to boot into WinXP, and after the splash it keeps rebooting. I don't know why.

- So I insert the WinXP beta 2 CD and install WinXP and do a repair installation.

- Installation goes fine.

- After installing, I get the intro screen with animation and after that, I get can log in. As soon as I try to login, I get the registration dialog and activation dialog, saying I cannot login unless I activate first. So I try to activate, but then it tells me online activation is not available for my country. I can't continue so I skip it, and it automatically logs me out again.

- Now it's impossible for me to login, and I can't activate through the internet, because I have to login to WinXP first before I can dial into internet.


Let's see how the fuck they tell me to solve this one. Currently I am locked out of my WinXP installation for a day already.

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behavior.
- All your ass are belong to my wang, JafD! Prepare to are penetration!
#47 by "lpmiller"
2001-05-25 05:18:54
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
Format c: /s



LPMiller
Chief News Editor
Gotapex.com
#48 by "BarneyQue"
2001-05-25 05:47:40
barneyque@hotmail.com
Wow, that was something of a nasty over reaction.

Must be an MCSE in here or something.
#49 by "deadlock"
2001-05-25 13:31:20
deadlock@eircom.net http://homepage.eircom.net/~dlocked
Joker: it is beta software. The whole point of having a beta program is that they can solve problems like the one that you are having, not because they want to give a select few a brand spanking new operating system. It's like signing up with id to beta test Quake 5 and then complaining that the version that lands on your desk has place-holder graphics or that some features don't work or are broken.

Activation in Windows XP doesn't bother me, and it shouldn't bother legitimate users.

deadlock
#50 by "BarneyQue"
2001-05-25 14:12:35
barneyque@hotmail.com
I also am not too concerned about activation.

My concern, is that this activation stuff, is the beta program for software that expires after 2 years, or worse, subscription based licensing.

Once they perfect product activation, and of course, it's opposite, de-activation, and combine it with the DMCA, they will have both the means, and the legal right to shutoff your software on a whim, remotely.

Can't say I'm too fond of that.
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