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Zee Germans...
May 16th 2001, 17:26 CEST by Morn

...are a funny lot, aren't they (well, I should know, shouldn't I). Anyway, just in case you're still not convinced that we Krauts have a fantastic sense of humour, check out <a href="http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/bb-16.05.01-001/">this story at heise.de</a> (I refuse to give you a link to Babelfish, since it'll probably just turn it into a story about fast food or swinger clubs).

Back in April, Günther Jauch, the host of <i>Wer wird Millionär?</i>, the German edition of <i>Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?</i>, noticed that some guy had registered the domain <i>guenter-jauch.de</i> (note the missing "h") and had his lawyers <a href="http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/bb-24.04.01-000/">issue a C&D</a> against the domain's owner <i>and</i> <a href="http://www.freecity.de/">FreeCity</a>, the ISP who was hosting the domain, refering to the rights to his name and the "obvious" violation against the same.

Now, the first part isn't that unusual, with people getting <i>Abmahnungen</i> related to domain name "theft" left, right and center these days, but this was actually the first time that the ISP was targetted as well.

Jauch's (or his lawyers') point was that FreeCity should not even have offered the domain at all, since it -- as they see it -- violates Jauch's rights to his name. FreeCity, of course, stated that their domain check form (a tool almost every ISP out there has on their website) can only do a check against the WHOIS database, but not do any reliable intellectual property/trademark/name rights/etc related checks without an extensive logistical and financial investment. FreeCity appealed the C&D, emphasizing that if the C&D gets enforced, it would mean the very end of the website-based domain ordering procedure that has grown so common all over the web, since it would be a far too big risk for (German) ISPs to allow automatic ordering of domain names without checking them against potential law violations first.

Today, the <i>Landgericht</i> of Cologne confirmed the C&D to be valid, forcing FreeCity to block registrations of <i>guenter-jauch.de</i> and all of its TLD variations. FreeCity are now planning on appealing the court's decision at the <i>Oberlandesgericht</i>.

So far, Günther Jauch hasn't shown any interest in registering the domain names himself.
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#1 by "MaverickUK"
2001-05-16 17:37:04
peter.bridger@tpg.co.uk
*ahem*





PC seems a little quiet recently?



.... oh sorry, almost forgot - FIRST POST!!!

--
Mav
#2 by "Buccaneer"
2001-05-16 17:39:26
buccaneer@planetcrap.com www.konsumsklave.de
German lawyers have too much fun with fighting for domain names.
#3 by "Morn"
2001-05-16 17:56:40
morn@planetcrap.com http://www.planetcrap.com
Sorry about the couple of German words I've left in there. An Abmahnung coupled with an Unterlassungsaufforderung is basically what you'd call a cease and desist order, and it usually comes with an invoice for the lawyer who wrote it.

A Landgericht is a regional court, while the Oberlandesgericht is the next highest instance.

Last but not least, it's good to be back. Sorry about the lack of updates; I've been in England, saying goodbye to a very good friend of mine who sadly passed away two weeks ago. :/

- Morn
#4 by "LPMiller"
2001-05-16 18:09:18
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
I'm very sorry to hear that.  Hope things begin to look up.  Death sucks.

LPMiller
Chief News Editor
Got|Apex?
#5 by "LPMiller"
2001-05-16 18:11:10
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
You know, I'd much rather discuss the French.  It's so much easier to pick on them.  I like germans.  Snappy dressers, great haircuts, bad taste in food.  But I respect any country with a languge that physically hurts to use.  I mean, that's balls.

LPMiller
Chief News Editor
Got|Apex?
#6 by "szcx"
2001-05-16 18:42:07
szcx@bersirc.com http://www.leslienassar.com/
I refuse to give you a link to Babelfish

Therefore one must go out of principle up to the last instance
#7 by "Martin"
2001-05-16 18:43:31
martin@theplace.nu
szcx: Thanks but...
BabelFish Error 3012
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If you think this is a bug we should know about? Send us e-mail and let us know the following:

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8)
#8 by "szcx"
2001-05-16 18:44:14
szcx@bersirc.com http://www.leslienassar.com/
Damn you, Altavista.  Damn you to hell.
#9 by "Martin"
2001-05-16 18:47:21
martin@theplace.nu
Ok, how about this one...?
#10 by "Martin"
2001-05-16 18:49:26
martin@theplace.nu
Mwahahahahaha... Don't bother with the link I just posted. 8) FreeTranslations provides less than stellar translations:

In the contention matter Günther Jauch against the Provider FreeCity and its partner firm Kontent, the country court Cologne confirmed today that in the April released temporary decree.
#11 by "Jeremy Witt"
2001-05-16 19:17:58
circle@bellsouth.net
Here be more on the play than the right of the use of a name of the TV moderator Guenther Jauch


I could play with translation software for hours.  Really.
#12 by "Eisenbahnknotenpunktenhin-und-hersteller"
2001-05-16 21:23:22
supersimon33@hotmail.com http://blbs.webjump.com
Here be more on the play than the right of the use of a name of the TV moderator Guenther Jauch

Was du sagt!! Sie sind unterwegs nach Zerstorung!!

(Morn, do you know how to do the Umlaut in ASCII? I can't remember those Alt-codes.)
#13 by "Sgt Hulka"
2001-05-16 21:23:34
Sgt_Hulka@Hulka.com http://www.hulka.com
In Post 11, Jeremy Witt spewed forth the following;
I could play with translation software for hours. Really."


Ich auch!
#14 by "Kaseluder"
2001-05-16 21:32:01
supersimon33@hotmail.com http://blbs.webjump.com
On topic: I'm registering frans-bauer.de!!! see you in court, Frans!
Seriously, though. This is nothing new: celebs getting pissed over someone registering their name as a domain. But what if there's really a guy who's name is ALSO Gunther Jauch, and he registers that domain? Will the celeb with the cash still win?

The court will see their ball bounced right back into their lap, though, when their decision causes German ISP's to abandon web-based domain regging, with all the consequences, such as dropping commerce. I hope the Oberlandesgericht (Supreme Court) will justify this matter.

Thank you for watching. Until the next time, take care of yourself, and eachother. :)
#15 by "Gunp01nt"
2001-05-16 21:55:55
supersimon33@hotmail.com http://blbs.webjump.com
And Morn, my condoleances on the death of your friend.
#16 by "Gunp01nt"
2001-05-16 22:04:41
supersimon33@hotmail.com http://blbs.webjump.com
I could play with translation software for hours. Really.

Haha! it translates 'Next' into 'neighbour'! prolly because 'Nachste' is confused with 'someone near & dear' :)
#17 by "wabut"
2001-05-17 00:13:38
wabut@yahoo.com http://jove.prohosting.com/~datafox/nsync/
speaking of translation fun, this link http://www.tashian.com/multibabel/ was passed around a while back and still is extremely entertaining on slow days like today.
#18 by "Darkseid-D!"
2001-05-17 03:17:47
Darkseid@captured.com www.sluggy.com
[url=http://turner.download.akamai.com/cnn/business/2001/05/14/duke.cnnfn.ns80.asf][/url]
heres hoping it works .. downloadable stream of DN4ever...

uhm... oh .. my .....

me WANT ME WANT ME WANT ME WANT.


oh and who`s the Max Hardcore fan ;)


Ds
#19 by "Darkseid-D!"
2001-05-17 03:18:46
Darkseid@captured.com www.sluggy.com
ok so that didnt work .. damnit

http://turner.download
.akamai.com/cnn/
business/2001/05/14
/duke.cnnfn.ns80.asf

build it back into one line ...

lets see if that works


Ds
#20 by "Russ"
2001-05-17 04:16:40
rthcowboy@mindspring.com
#18 "Darkseid-D!" wrote...
heres hoping it works .. downloadable stream of DN4ever...


Wow, it sure doesn't take long to go off-topic. I guess it's to be expected with E3 going on that we will have a new off-topic post every time something is announced or shown. I watched the DNF video. Even though the quality of the stream wasn't great, it looks like it could be a pretty cool game. The character faces look good. Some of the action is so intense, I'm pretty sure my computer will choke. Hopefully, we'll all get to find out soon if it's any good.
#21 by "JMCDaveL"
2001-05-17 06:27:42
jmcdavel@mailandnews.com http://hometown.aol.com/nishigaki3/
"oh and who`s the Max Hardcore fan ;)"

Not me, I'm Rocco all the way baby.

--jmc
#22 by "Topaz"
2001-05-17 08:12:40
That's the crap version of the DNF video. There's a new high quality one coming out tonight supposedly.
#23 by "Martin"
2001-05-17 09:09:41
martin@theplace.nu
#21: Bah, Ron 0wns all of these new punks big time! 8P
#24 by "keefer"
2001-05-17 09:42:51
keith.johnson@sternpinball.com www.sternpinball.com
#12

This thing?  ->  ü

We'll see if that actually makes it.  I actually knew that off the top of my head (don't ask), but for those that you can't remember, there's charmap!  (Ohhh, THAT'S what that's for!)  ;)

¡Ay carumba!
#25 by "Apache"
2001-05-17 09:53:36
Im at E3 now (well, the hotel) and we snagged a DVD of the DNF movie and its pretty swanky. It's much better than that real steaming, err streaming garbage.
#26 by "Anonymous"
2001-05-17 10:49:22
Less regulation, more capitalism.

The DNF movie looks promising. I especially enjoyed the cnn ad; I'm sure gamers are going to flock to watch Wolf Blitzer now!

What seems to be most evident in the Duke Video is the mere fact that the environments are not a bunch of polygons; instead they are actual environments. The next trick to video games is to successfully create an atmosphere which does not surround you, "the player." Instead, you, "the player" discover a vast world of decisions.

I give 3dRealms a 9/10 thus far.. But anyone can make a cool movie..

Now it's time to make some predictions.

As far as the release date is concerned, my guess is August 1st. 3dRealms for sure would not release this video unless the game was near completition. I wouldn't be surprised if they are currently stomping small bugs out right now. From there, they will do extensive play testing to prevent a 30mb point release w/o much content.

This is quite an investment, don't be surprised if 3dRealms doesn't announce features like, internet competive Co Op play, ability to customize your own Duke Nukem and use this character both in single, and online.

- Paul
#27 by "Matt Gallant"
2001-05-17 13:43:55
mg@tmbg.org http://truemeaningoflife.com
Apache (#25):
Im at E3 now (well, the hotel) and we snagged a DVD of the DNF movie and its pretty swanky. It's much better than that real steaming, err streaming garbage.


But is it f'n spicy?
#28 by "Sgt Hulka"
2001-05-17 15:08:52
sgt_hulka@hulka.com http://www.hulka.com
I especially enjoyed the cnn ad


Bad news. You better be able to blow up the ad then, why 3DRealms would include an ad for the Clinton News Network is beyond me.  If you want a real news network, change it to include a FoxNews ad.

I have not downloaded the video yet, but I've said all along that DNF was going to kick Maximus Ass.  BUT, with a CNN ad in it, it just lost a few brownie points.
#29 by "Dethstryk"
2001-05-17 15:26:46
jemartin@tcainternet.com
Sgt Hulka (#28):
I have not downloaded the video yet, but I've said all along that DNF was going to kick Maximus Ass. BUT, with a CNN ad in it, it just lost a few brownie points.

I don't think the advertisement was of 3D Realms doing.


--
Dethstryk
#30 by "szcx"
2001-05-17 16:09:11
szcx@bersirc.com http://www.leslienassar.com/
If you want a real news network, change it to include a FoxNews ad.

O'Reilly is funny.  I like the way all his comments start with "I'm not a Republican, but..." and his "no-spin zone" where any time a Democrat tries to explain something he interrupts them.  Now that's entertainment.
#31 by "Finn"
2001-05-17 16:45:09
Can you all stop downloading the E3 videos please it's taking ages for me to down load them :)


Finn..
#32 by "Dethstryk"
2001-05-17 16:48:56
jemartin@tcainternet.com
szcx (#30):
O'Reilly is funny. I like the way all his comments start with "I'm not a Republican, but..." and his "no-spin zone" where any time a Democrat tries to explain something he interrupts them. Now that's entertainment.

I'm not a part of any political party, but the "unbiased" reporting of Fox is a joke, because they are as biased as any other news network out there. I really enjoy O'Reilly's show, but to call it some unbiased "no-spin zone".. well, those are merely just keywords to sell to the public.


--
Dethstryk
#33 by "Apache"
2001-05-17 17:00:47
the movie is pretty spicy, im at E3 at one of the little updating thingies waiting for the show to open in a bout 2 hours....
#34 by "PiMuRho"
2001-05-17 19:17:42
What's the point of BilePlanet providing, and linking to, mirrors for files (notably the DNF video) when they don't actually have the video mirrored at the location? Bah.
#35 by "Dethstryk"
2001-05-17 20:17:35
jemartin@tcainternet.com
PiMuRho (#34):
What's the point of BilePlanet providing, and linking to, mirrors for files (notably the DNF video) when they don't actually have the video mirrored at the location? Bah.

Page clicking, ad impressions, that kind of thing. Bastards.


--
Dethstryk
#36 by "PiMuRho"
2001-05-17 22:17:03
Double Bastards. One of the mirrors is my own ISP, and they don't even know why FP are linking them without providing the file. Bah I say!
#37 by "lbsn"
2001-05-18 03:30:20
lbsn@shacknews.com http://www.lbsn.com
Sorry to hear about your friend, Morn.

Personally, if my last name were that close to Jauche 'liquid manure', I'd think about changing it.
#38 by "Sgt Hulka"
2001-05-18 20:06:02
Sgt_Hulka@Hulka.com http://www.hulka.com
In Post 32, Dethstryk spewed forth the following;
"unbiased "no-spin zone".. "


I think any news where opinion is offered is biased by definition of the word.  I like O'Reilly because he's not afraid to confront people when they lie, or misrepresent the facts. Hannity and Colmbes is a good show too, but Paula Zahn drives me nuts.
#39 by "Narcopolo"
2001-05-18 20:19:31
#38 Sgt Hulka
I think any news where opinion is offered is biased by definition of the word.


I'd have to amplify that and say that all news is covered by editorial opinion.  It's never just the facts.  I know a girl who works for the Fox News Network and frequently Fox News proper, and she says she's continually having her stories re-written to make them more conservative sounding, and sensationalistic of course.  
#40 by "Ergo"
2001-05-18 22:35:53
stu@dsl-only.net
#38 "Sgt Hulka" wrote...
I like O'Reilly because he's not afraid to confront people when they lie, or misrepresent the facts.

O'Reilly's a sharp guy, and often funny, be he's way too one-sided for a man that likes to think of himself as a "non-Republican."
#41 by "Anonymous"
2001-05-18 22:48:59
http://www.webhitzone.com
Fox news is of course going to be more conservative. They advertise on Rush Limbaugh for heaven's sake(should i now be imprisoned Rush, for using the term, "Heaven".)

FNC is first a profit entity, second a news source.

FNC listened to the twenty million Limbaugh listeners, plus the other 100 million Americans who are more conservative than the mainstream.

The bottom line is that any news network is going to have a slant. Most americans are too ignorant to realize this; they just assume whatever they are told is fact. Or they only realize the slant once another slanted commentator informs them.

Next time you watch CNN, keep track of how much time Democratic causes are argued. Then do the same with Fox News. You will find(although CNN has slanted a bit more mainstream) that CNN is about 60% liberal, 40% conservative, and Fox News is 60% Conservative and 40% liberal. The difference is, like kids arguing in the school yard, Fox News proclaimed they were fair and balanced first, therefore Fox News "must be" fair and balanced. Not to mention like other conservatives, they spout constantly how they are the moral high ground. Last time I checked, Jesus wasn't a dues paying Republican.

Republicans are all about judging your morals and telling you how evil you are. Liberals are all about taking your money and telling you how evil you are for not giving more. Republicans, with a passion, refuse to listen to the facts. Instead, they try to demonize everything they disagree with. A great example is Rush Limbaugh's explanation of globing warming. He said something to the effect of, "Take an Ice Cube in a glass of water, if it melts the water level doesn't rise at all." This man, who speaks out his ass into the homes and cars of millions, obviously did not do his research. Last time I checked, quite a bit of the polar ice is above water. Duh.

Then Democrats fight on the warm and fuzzy side of politics. Conservatives are affraid because cutting programs wins very few votes, so they are forced to demonize everything. But, Democrats can promise everything to everyone.

Our government has become an auction house. It's like bidding on eBay. The millions put into campaigns isn't nearly as bad as the lies which are quite present under the table. Nixon had one thing right: we should tape record politicians, and play it back to the public. Then the American people could really hear what those arrogant fools on capitol hill think about us as citizens.

But it all goes back to the media. They paint those who want change in our government as being terrorists like Timothy McVeigh. His actions in Oklahoma City were totally wrong. Slightly more wrong than the actions of Janet Reno at Waco, and the absolute tragedy at Ruby Ridge.

It's a catch 22. News networks depend greatly on politics. If they have no access to politicians they won't receive any interviews. On the same token, politicians greatly need news networks. It's difficult to get elected without free promotion. Neither of the two parties are out to expose the other.

Ideally, America will get off it's lazy ass and realize our country needs serious change. But, there is little evidence this will occur. Just wait for countries like China to open it's borders. America's arrogance will fade away at the same rate as it's domination of the world.

With how this country has changed over the last 100 years, a serious change may not be a bad thing.

- Paul
#42 by "None-1a"
2001-05-18 23:03:20
none1a@home.com http://www.geocities.com/none-1a
#41 "Anonymous" wrote...
The bottom line is that any news network is going to have a slant. Most americans are too ignorant to realize this; they just assume whatever they are told is fact. Or they only realize the slant once another slanted commentator informs them.


Belive me they know it's slanted with out being told. Sure most may not acctualy see it as slanted news but they know one network doesn't air things they agree with so they watch the one that does. People don't want news the want to be told what they already belive and deside where to get 'news' based on that not what those news orginzations are telling them to belive.

#43 by "Ergo"
2001-05-18 23:22:04
stu@dsl-only.net
Paul--

Very well said.
#44 by "Dethstryk"
2001-05-19 01:17:08
jemartin@tcainternet.com
Ergo (#43):
Paul--

Very well said.

Agree. Beautiful post, Paul. :)


--
Dethstryk
#45 by "Darkseid-D!"
2001-05-19 02:27:43
Darkseid@captured.com www.sluggy.com
waco 50 or so deaths

ruby ridge sub 5 fatalities

oklahoma civic centre 258 dead


'slightly' more wrong ?

Two wrongs dont make a right.

Oh and there was an explosives expert who studied the civic centre and basically said McVeighs vanbomb wouldnt done much more than chip concrete and pointed out the score marks on 4 critical support pillars which failed. Score marks which indicated shaped charges....

Amazingly the building was knocked down and the rubble carted off to 'classified' sites before that could be fully investigated....

I have the link to this stuff in work ... quite interesting


Ds
#46 by "Anonymous"
2001-05-19 03:23:40
http://www.webhitzone.com
Darkseid:

Let's clear up a few things first:

168, NOT 255, people were killed in Oklahoma City. It was the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. That's why it was targeted. It wasn't just some civic center.
source: http://www.cnn.com/2000/US/04/05/okc.memorial/index.html

More than 80 people, not 55, were killed in Waco.
source: http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/05/16/okc.suspicious.truck/index.html

Did I say McVeigh was right in killing anyone? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Renegade justice has very little place in our society. That's exactly why I'm against what happened in Waco, and Ruby Ridge. It's not just about Big Brother, folks, it's about a war scene.

Our U.S. Government should be held to the highest standard.

Far too often people believe it's American to support our government unconditionally. That's totally wrong. It's American to objectively judge our government and only support acts which are justified. If someone does something illegal, like shooting a child, he or she or his superiors should be held accountable. The situation must be taken into full consideration, as it is in most criminal trials.

Equal justify for all. Now that's American.

- Paul
#47 by "Russ"
2001-05-19 03:24:12
rthcowboy@mindspring.com
#45 "Darkseid-D!" wrote...
waco 50 or so deaths

ruby ridge sub 5 fatalities

oklahoma civic centre 258 dead


'slightly' more wrong ?


The Waco death toll of Branch Davidians was more like 76. Regardless, I think his intent when saying "slightly more wrong" was not based on body count. I believe he was referring to the disregard for human life in general. Is that about right, Paul?
#48 by "Anonymous"
2001-05-19 03:28:18
http://www.webhitzone.com
I don't know much about how the building exploded. But it is quite clear that the ryder truck caused the chain of events. I really doubt the federal government was too concerned with a Bomb Proof building in Oklahoma City.

- Paul
#49 by "Darkseid-D!"
2001-05-19 04:05:13
Darkseid@captured.com www.sluggy.com
Actually its quite possible that McVeighs truck bomb didnt knock the Murrah (sp?) Building down.

4 support pillars were 'cut' to an extent they no longer supported that area of the building, a high floor dropped onto the one below and caused a concertina effect. Which is why one side of the building is totally smashed whilst the others barely affected.

McVeighs Home made explosives lacked sufficient kinetic energy to bring down the four support pillars that caused that side of the building to subside (thats what killed so many people, not the blast). His truck was also placed a distance away from those support pillars, between two other support pillars, which should have collapsed the other side of the building also. The blast marks in the parking area showed chip damage to the concrete where the Truck was parked, equivalent to something akin to 5000lbs of pressure, or roughly what home made grade explosive generates.

Given that it was a truck bomb and would have had a radial detonation area (and not a focused/shaped cone) why didnt the bomb smash the two pillars it was parked between, why the four some distance away. Explosive energy doesnt transmit through air particularly well....

Im repeating this from memory, might be a bit off on details, dont have the exact link handy (on my work pc), but heres what a few minutes googling dug up with Gen Benton Patin and Samuel Cohen.... I dunno about you but Id tend to take what the guy who created the Neutron bomb said with some degree of authority.

http://etherzone.com/stan041101.shtml
http://etherzone.com/stan041101.shtml

http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1996/04/msg01039.html
url=http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1996/04/msg01039.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38fdd7fa702d.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38fdd7fa702d.htm
(note this link refers to the investigation report that Ive mentioned)

http://www.devvy.com/okcup1.html
http://www.devvy.com/okcup1.html
(interesting points)

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1998/vo14no15/vo14no15_bombs.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1998/vo14no15/vo14no15_bombs.htm
(this link has the guts of the article I mentioned in it and well .. read for yourself)


I usually dont like conspiracy theories, but reading all of this, there are too many gapes in the explanation and too much 'wtf'....

Ds
(Ps, I live in N.Ireland, explosions were a national past time, I grew up hearing about them and did a bit of research....)
#50 by "Darkseid-D!"
2001-05-19 04:07:07
Darkseid@captured.com www.sluggy.com
ugh .. I guess I should clarify that

I did paper/web  based research into explosions in and around Belfast and a little bit of work on the physics of blasts.

nothing more complicated than the basic stuff and most of it is hazy memory ..

I do remember that packing a fine power around the explosive, like say custard powder can increase the power of the detonation by a factor of 3.4...


Ds
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