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PlayStation 2 rip-off warning
December 3rd 2000, 01:58 CET by Andy

Canadian and US consumer watchdog, the Better Business Bureau, is warning against a company claiming to have "a large supply" of PlayStation 2 systems.

The warning relates to two web sites, ps2storeusa.com and ps2storecanada.com, which are operated by a company identified as "Playstation Store of USA and/or Canada".

Both sites offer "guaranteed delivery" of the PS2 in time for Christmas if orders are placed by December 15th.

Bob Whitelaw, president of the Better Business Bureau in Canada, explains why consumers should be wary:

The CCBBB started to receive calls earlier this week from consumers who visited one of these web sites, placed an order and hadnít received the product as promised. We continue to receive more than 20 complaint calls a day. Whatís particularly alarming is the fact that purchasers were asked to fax a photocopy of the front and back of their credit cards to assure speedy delivery of their gifts. No legitimate business will request photocopies of your personal financial information.

The warning also quotes Sony as saying that any site claiming to have "thousands of" PS2s available "is making a bogus claim". Sony has reportedly issued a cease and desist order against both ps2store web sites, and has handed the matter over to police.

Both web sites appear to be fairly amateurish affairs, albeit with nice graphics. If you try switching pages rapidly then parts of some pages will be replaced with the default images supplied by the Kurant e-commerce provider.

The USA site currently says: "Join us in a LIVE online chat to talk about the recent problems." It isn't explained what "recent problems" this refers to, though, and the link to a java chat client doesn't appear to work properly.

The Better Business Bureau alert also includes general advice for consumers looking to buy hard-to-find products, particularly in the run-up to Christmas.
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#1 by "BloodKnight"
2000-12-03 02:05:53
bloodknight@somethingawful.com
First!
#2 by "Preacher"
2000-12-03 02:05:57
preacher@unreality.org
Seems like there's been nothing but problems with PS2 since it came out.
DREAMCAST ALL THE WAY :D
#3 by "BloodKnight"
2000-12-03 02:06:15
bloodknight@somethingawful.com
Yeah 2nd time I got a first post..or was it 3rd?  Yeah it was 3rd !!!

Ahh fuck
#4 by "BloodKnight"
2000-12-03 02:08:01
bloodknight@somethingawful.com
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Sony sucks
Dreamcast at least had decent games at launch
#5 by "sentinel"
2000-12-03 02:38:00
jeroen@metallica.com
Are PS2's so hard to find then? They came out here in Holland the 24th of November and they were instantly sold out, but I think the second shipping came in last friday as I saw a whole bunch at several shops today... So I could easily get one right away.

I'm still wondering whether I should though :) Tekken Tag Tournament will most likely be one of my favourite games ever as I've been playing the other Tekken games for years now on the PSX, but some of the other stuff (like Ridge Racer 5 and Street Fighter EX 3) looks disappointing and I'm not sure one game is worth all that money :)
#6 by "WarrenMarshall"
2000-12-03 02:38:47
warren@epicgames.com
Yeah 2nd time I got a first post..or was it 3rd? Yeah it was 3rd !!!

Ahh fuck

You must be very proud.  What an accomplishment ...
#7 by "WarrenMarshall"
2000-12-03 02:40:05
warren@epicgames.com
I'm still wondering whether I should though :) Tekken Tag Tournament will most likely be one of my favourite games ever as I've been playing the other Tekken games for years now on the PSX, but some of the other stuff (like Ridge Racer 5 and Street Fighter EX 3) looks disappointing and I'm not sure one game is worth all that money :)

SSX is worth it alone ... very cool game.  And I just got Dynasty Warriors 2 and that's been cool so far.  Tons of guys on the screen.  Lots of asses for me to kick.  ;)

And of course, there's Unreal Tournament!!  Buy it!! NOW!!!  :)
#8 by "Speed"
2000-12-03 02:57:11
speed@pandora.be
Sentinel : In Belgium it's pretty hard to find a PS2. Most shops are sold out and no way of knowing when the next batch will come in.
I'm still waiting for my PS2 from the Sony PR, but I hope I'll have it next week.
About the games : what I'm hearing from Tekken Tag Tournament is that it is really no better than Tekken 3. Might want to hold on a little while to buy Dead or Alive 2 which absolutely rocks (I've played it already at ECTS)
Most great games for the PS2 are going to be released with the second wave of games (like DoA2), while the current PS2 released games seem to be minor improvements over their PSX-versions.
Oh, btw : don't mind what the Americans are saying, they are way ahead of Europe with the amount of available games for PS2...

Speed
Fragland.net
#9 by "sentinel"
2000-12-03 03:02:02
jeroen@metallica.com
WarrenMarhall: SSX? What's that?

Speed: Yeah I'd go for DOA2 aswell ofcourse, but since I'm a huge Tekken fan, just the couple of extra characters and maybe enhanced moves would be worth. Enhanced graphics would be cool too. I've never been much of a fan of DOA, but maybe DOA2 is better, I'll make sure I give it a try :)
#10 by "Intaglio"
2000-12-03 03:35:16
eric@gurutech.org
Actually I thought the sites looked pretty professional. I saw that story on news.com yesterday and was checking it out, they said they had something like 15k PSX2 for sale. Lets look at the math...

500,000 PSX2s in the US, total.

500,000 / 50 = 10,000 per state. Anyone who believed that company had more PSX2s than the whole of California deserved to get suckered.
#11 by "WarrenMarshall"
2000-12-03 03:39:53
warren@epicgames.com
WarrenMarhall: SSX? What's that?

Snowboarding game ... you can do some great tricks if you get enough air.  :)
#12 by "toadwarrior"
2000-12-03 03:52:38
toadw@uplink.net
SSX is a 1080 clone and not as fun.

The actual PS2 is a rip off. $300 and what do you get? A watered down port of UT, RR5 which is just like every other RR game and a bunch of no name titles or rehashes.  Plus you're pretty much guarenteed that there'll be no real online support and I doubt there'll even be that many 4 player games since Sony choose to take the greedy route and sell the multitap rather than put 4 controller ports on the system.
#13 by "GeorgeBroussard"
2000-12-03 04:02:52
georgeb@3drealms.com
Who would want a PS2 now anyway?

Man o man, if I were a developer than shipped a launch title I'd be PISSED!  I bet companies like Epic and others stand to lose millions because the software won't sell without hardware.  And honestly by the time the hardware catches up, more games willbe out and the launch titles will be old.  

I think a lot of developers just got screwed.  Warren?  How's Epic feel about this?
#14 by "Speed"
2000-12-03 04:10:12
speed@pandora.be
Personally I think great launch titles can do wonders for sales figures of a console, but what Sony is doing with their launch titles is just plain idiot.
None of the PS2 launch titles are showing even near the full potential of the new Sony console, and I'm pretty sure that Sony is heavily aware of this.
At ECTS I hardly saw any of the PS2 launch titles, but rather the hall was filled with games that will be released with the second wave (DoA2 f.i.)
SSX is one of the few launch titles that are really worth it, but I doubt a snowboarding game will do the trick and have everyone buy the console

For those interested, here's the list of launch titles of PS2 in Europe :
Aqua Aqua: Wetrix 2 (SCi)
Dynasty Warriors 2 (Midas)
Fantavision (Sony)
FIFA 2001 (EA)
Gradius III & IV (Konami)
ISS (Konami)
NHL 2001 (EA)
Orphen: Scion Of Sorcery
Ready 2 Rumble Round 2 (Midway)
Ridge Racer V (Sony)
Silent Scope (Konami)
Smuggler's Run (Take 2)
SSX (EA)
Tekken Tag Tournament (Sony)
TimeSplitters (Eidos)
Wild Wild Racing (Rage)

So as you can see, there's hardly anything that will make big waves.

Speed
Fragland.net
#15 by "None1a"
2000-12-03 04:17:39
none1a@home.com
Actually I thought the sites looked pretty professional.


It had better look professional. The way it look CIS Networks has a service to create a turnkey web site like this (I can't tell none of the links that hint at this on the CIS Networks web site go anywhere). I know I've seen that index page some where before, and the rest of the site is displaying a general company logo here image from a turnkey template.
#16 by "WarrenMarshall"
2000-12-03 04:31:59
warren@epicgames.com
I think a lot of developers just got screwed. Warren? How's Epic feel about this? [/quote[
As far as I know, we feel quite good about it.  :)  We made launch and the title is solid.  *shrug*
#17 by "WarrenMarshall"
2000-12-03 04:32:21
warren@epicgames.com
I WANT THE NEW CRAPSPY!!  :)
#18 by "Speed"
2000-12-03 04:37:37
speed@pandora.be
I still don't understand why people would like to play First Person Shooters like Q3A or UT on a console...
I've tried to play games like that on the PSX and the controls are just plain awful. Your movement is way slower and aiming sucks.
I will NEVER trade in my mouse and keyboard for a gamepad !!!

Speed
Fragland.net
#19 by "Rambar"
2000-12-03 04:55:56
rambar@homegettingablowjob.com
I still don't understand why people would like to play First Person Shooters like Q3A or UT on a console...


FPS games are good on a console if you've never used a keyboard/mouse combination on an actuall PC.  The first time I played Doom was on the 32x.  I eventually played the shareware version and I didn't see how much better the controls were because I never used a mouse with it.   Once you play keyboard/mouse you can't go back.  I'm sure keyboarders have no problems with console FPS.  

Goldeneye is a good example.  All the controls are fine except for the horrific turn speed.   You can't really aim but that doesn't matter since the game will aim for you.
--
Rambar
#20 by "Speed"
2000-12-03 05:13:32
speed@pandora.be
Rambar : Guess you're right. Metal Gear Solid on the pc is absolutely horrible for me since the controls are taken completely from the console...

Speed
Fragland.net
#21 by "asspennies"
2000-12-03 05:15:36
asspennies@somethingawful.com
You know, all the java applet apparently does is (inaffectively) try to connect to irc.undernet.org and go to the channel #ps2canada.  I wonder if there's anyone in there right now...
#22 by "JohnRomero"
2000-12-03 05:50:57
iliilllli1@as-if.com
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#23 by "TimSweeny"
2000-12-03 05:51:11
iliilllli1@the-big-apple.com
hi
#24 by "JohnRomero"
2000-12-03 05:51:25
iliilllli1@as-if.com
your lame shut up!!!1
#25 by "JohnCarmack"
2000-12-03 05:51:46
iliilllli1@beverlyhills-90210.com
hello romero!!!!
#26 by "CliffyB"
2000-12-03 05:52:06
iliilllli1@hehe.com
i am a pimp i 0wn you all!!!
#27 by "JohnCarmack"
2000-12-03 05:52:38
iliilllli1@beverlyhills-90210.com
i am forming DOOM 3 dream team!!! romero come help with creative design please!!!
#28 by "JohnRomero"
2000-12-03 05:53:30
iliilllli1@as-if.com
OMGMOGMOGOMGOMGOMGOMOGM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 my dream cometh true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 i hate these eidos lamers they ruined the vision(tm verant) of daikatana!!!!!! can i bring a long ms tits i mean killcreek!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#29 by "JohnRomero"
2000-12-03 05:53:54
iliilllli1@as-if.com
BTW daikatana is a very high quality game i suggest you all buy it!!!!
#30 by "TimSweeny"
2000-12-03 05:54:09
iliilllli1@the-big-apple.com
daikatana sux0rs!!!!!!!!!!111
#31 by "CliffyB"
2000-12-03 05:54:22
iliilllli1@hehe.com
i agree master!!!!!!!!!!!!1
#32 by "JohnRomero"
2000-12-03 05:54:44
iliilllli1@as-if.com
shut up daiktana looks better than unreal the 3dfx only engine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
#33 by "JohnCarmack"
2000-12-03 05:55:00
iliilllli1@beverlyhills-90210.com
ITS TRUE! ITS TRUE!
#34 by "JohnRomero"
2000-12-03 05:55:19
iliilllli1@as-if.com
THE CARMACK HATH SPOKEN!!!!!!!!!!!11111
#35 by "TimSweeny"
2000-12-03 05:56:09
iliilllli1@the-big-apple.com
damn it why cant i be as smart as JOHN CARMACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its not fair!!!!! i secrect id spy reported back and said the new DOOM engine makes our unreal warfare engine look 2d!!!!!!!!!!! no fair!!!! john carmack is mr smarty man!!!!!
#36 by "JohnCarmack"
2000-12-03 05:56:50
iliilllli1@beverlyhills-90210.com
i cant help it i just program these 1337 engines while sleeping in one night. it just like happens i dont know how and they run on all video cards!!!
#37 by "JohnRomero"
2000-12-03 05:57:07
iliilllli1@as-if.com
THE CARMACK HATH SPOKEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
#38 by "CliffyB"
2000-12-03 05:57:29
iliilllli1@hehe.com
shut up quake engine sux0rs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
#39 by "JohnRomero"
2000-12-03 05:57:54
iliilllli1@as-if.com
bow down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am going to make you my bitch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the quake engine 0wnz0rx0rs you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
#40 by "CliffyB"
2000-12-03 05:58:32
iliilllli1@hehe.com
why must my maps sux0r!!! why dont i have magical bsp power like crispin "xian" antcow!!! his maps are soooooooooo much 1337er!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
#41 by "TimSweeny"
2000-12-03 05:59:08
iliilllli1@the-big-apple.com
its obviously mostly my fault. the unreal engine makes all maps look 9999999x crappier!!!
#42 by "JohnRomero"
2000-12-03 05:59:23
iliilllli1@as-if.com
ITS TRUE!! ITS TRUE!!
#43 by "TimSweeny"
2000-12-03 05:59:39
iliilllli1@the-big-apple.com
quick cliffyb back under my desk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#44 by "CliffyB"
2000-12-03 05:59:51
iliilllli1@hehe.com
YES SIRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
#45 by "JohnRomero"
2000-12-03 06:00:25
iliilllli1@as-if.com
I MADE THE WORLD MY BITCH WITH DAIKATANA!!!!!!!!!! BEST GAME EVER!!!! EVERYONE GO BUY IT NOW BEFORE EIDOS SELLS MY HUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
#46 by "CliffyB"
2000-12-03 06:00:57
iliilllli1@hehe.com
tim sweeny is hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#47 by "TimSweeny"
2000-12-03 06:01:17
iliilllli1@the-big-apple.com
i am hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
#48 by "JohnRomero"
2000-12-03 06:01:41
iliilllli1@as-if.com
killcreek is hot!!!!!!!!!!!11
#49 by "None1a"
2000-12-03 06:02:01
none1a@home.com
Morn if your any thing near away looks like you've got some accounts to delete a fast.
#50 by "TimSweeny"
2000-12-03 06:03:01
iliilllli1@the-big-apple.com
can i be on DOOM 3 dream team please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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