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Duke Nukem 4 Never?
May 16th 2009, 20:04 CEST by OmegaFoRCe

According to Shacknews (http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/58519) 3D Realms is officially closing doors. What can we learn from 3D Realms' departure from the industry?
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#1 by jjohnsen
2009-05-16 20:11:40
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The first four letters my three-year-old has learned are A, B, X, and Y.  What can we learn from this example about my parenting choices?

#2 by Milan Brezovský
2009-05-16 20:23:30
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That letters DNF aren't interesting enough for him?

"assemblerer is like the dorkier male version of ryslin.  His posts make my head hurt." -- Mister Nutty
#3 by TreeFrog
2009-05-16 20:34:31
Take Two flogs the shit out of a dead horse.

"Can we get to the part where everybody is Kung Fu fighting?" - wingwalker
#4 by Squeaky
2009-05-16 20:43:06
#1 by jjohnsen

The first four letters my three-year-old has learned are A, B, X, and Y.  What can we learn from this example about my parenting choices?

That I wish you were my dad.

#5 by Wudi
2009-05-16 21:13:10
Thanks Arthur, Gabe!

Zep--

Tom Chick is a hypocritical cunt.
#6 by BobJustBob
2009-05-16 21:31:39
Timing is everything.

BUYBUYBUY
#7 by yotsuya
2009-05-16 23:30:29
I bet there IS no DNF source code. TT is going to find out the trailers were all a UT2K4 mod.

#8 by Milan Brezovský
2009-05-16 23:58:20
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Sandra and me went for a boat ride today. It was raining a bit at first, but then we had a nice weather, and I got to drive for a while.
[/Warren]

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#9 by honeypower
2009-05-17 00:35:03
#8 by Milan Brezovský

I got to drive for a while.

[/Warren]

we're lucky to still be alive!

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#10 by G-Man
2009-05-17 00:55:34
Derek Smart provides his analysis of the situation.
#11 by Paul
2009-05-17 04:37:25
3d Realms tried to create the perfect Duke.  They discovered after 4 restarts that the perfect Duke could not be created.  The obsession to create the perfect Duke trumped the self-awareness that such a task was impossible.

TT made a business decision that this new Duke was a loser, and not worth another 5 million.

3d Realms should have just made a series of fun Duke Nukems.  We should have Duke 4, Duke 5, Duke 6, with Duke 7 coming out later this year.  each would have probably sold 1 to 3 million and would have been profitable.

GB just wasted 12 years and probably 20 million.

Don't put too much credence in Derek Smart's legal analysis stated in his posts.  We don't know what the contracts between 3d Realms and ultimately TT actually said.  The initial contract likely had an assignment provision which would allow TT to be put in the same shoes as the original contracting party with 3d Realms.

We also don't know which business entity signed what.  I think it's interesting that Apogee is now an LLC and not a Ltd.  I suspect Apogee sold all of their assets to the LLC in an attempt to avoid liability from TT.  Problem is, this may constitute a violation of UFTA (fraudulent transfers).

Also, don't be shocked if the actual conflict is resolved in a private arbitration.  Most contracts of this type contain an arbitration clause.  I cannot imagine both parties would waive that clause.

I'm curious to see how this goes.
#12 by Scott Miller
2009-05-17 04:50:39
The fact that topics about DNF getting cancelled are still getting approved a week and a half after DNF has been cancelled proves that Duke is a valuable IP.
#13 by Paul
2009-05-17 05:05:42
Michael Jackson stories sell, but his records don't.  Not sure this proves the Duke IP is worth much.  Market research would show how valuable the Duke IP is worth.  I'm going to guess it's a niche market which shrinks every year.
#14 by Milan Brezovský
2009-05-17 05:45:04
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Paul, I'm afraid you just got trolled.

"assemblerer is like the dorkier male version of ryslin.  His posts make my head hurt." -- Mister Nutty
#15 by Paul
2009-05-17 06:47:04
Milan -

Yeah, I guess so.  I tried to give you guys a hint this was coming a few weeks ago, but no one listened.

http://planetcrap.com/topics/1211/1627/#comments
#16 by G-Man
2009-05-17 08:46:57
Who is Paul supposed to be again? Paul Steed or something? I mean he's got a low UID, but I honestly don't remember ever seeing the guy post before.
#17 by BobJustBob
2009-05-17 09:25:57
You never talk about yourself Jon. What have you been up to?

BUYBUYBUY
#18 by G-Man
2009-05-17 11:32:43
Busy working etc. GF is out of town so I'm catching up on some gaming. Playing through Mass Effect and Bioshock.
#19 by m0nty
2009-05-17 12:45:12
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Paul is a programmer in the industry and a PC old-timer. Shame on you G-Man for not remembering that.
#20 by Gunp01nt
2009-05-17 14:58:56
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Wait, does this mean Apogee is shutting down too? That's one of the oldest pieces of PC game history going away. Not that the brand was actively used anymore, but still.

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#21 by Gunp01nt
2009-05-17 15:02:58
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Chinese computers suck.

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#22 by TreeFrog
2009-05-17 15:14:27
Crazy foreigners and their Unicode.

"Can we get to the part where everybody is Kung Fu fighting?" - wingwalker
#23 by Gunp01nt
2009-05-17 15:16:54
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Now I get it, when you press shift-space it switches to weirdo mode.
我爱你
我是从何兰来了

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#24 by Gunp01nt
2009-05-17 15:17:47
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玩安

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#25 by gaggle
2009-05-17 15:48:29
Oh 我爱你 you.

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#26 by bago
2009-05-17 16:04:31
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֢הץЖ㊧パ you too.

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#27 by CheesyPoof
2009-05-17 17:31:58
#18 by G-Man

Playing through Mass Effect and Bioshock.

Mass Effect is boring. Haven't fired it up in a month.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#28 by G-Man
2009-05-17 17:50:54
I'm also trying to learn Japanese via the DS game. Been playing it for an hour a day for the past few months but it is slow going. I'm on lesson 46 or so now but the game has a lot of flaws and I feel like I really don't have mastery over a lot of basic concepts so I probably need a traditional book with some exercises to do to supplement the game.
#29 by Chunkstyle
2009-05-17 22:40:45
Mass Effect was great.  Cheesy has no taste.

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#30 by Squeaky
2009-05-17 22:53:44
Mass Effect sucked. Chunkstyle has not taste.

#31 by Greg
2009-05-18 00:06:46
Mass Effect was OK, from the 15 minutes that I played. My tongue's nerves work OK.

#32 by Ergo
2009-05-18 01:41:37
#30 by Squeaky

Mass Effect sucked. Chunkstyle has not taste.

Well, you fucking hate almost everything, so you're really in no position to comment one way or another.

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#33 by Squeaky
2009-05-18 03:00:00
#32 by Ergo

#30 by Squeaky

Mass Effect sucked. Chunkstyle has not taste.

Well, you fucking hate almost everything, so you're really in no position to comment one way or another.

I don't hate almost everything. I only hate you.

#34 by Hugin
2009-05-18 03:35:36
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Mass Effect was great.

"Bioshock, sadly, is no Painkiller." - BobJustBob
#35 by gaggle
2009-05-18 03:46:45
TF2 Spy video. Brilliant. Don't know if its old or new, but I hadn't seen it before. My love for Valve grows.

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#36 by Milan Brezovský
2009-05-18 05:05:23
http://uglycode.com
Mass Effect was (for the most part) great. Let's meet up, Chunkstyle, we've just arrived to our room in Chicago, Division st. Staying for 2 full days, heading back to AL on Wed.

"assemblerer is like the dorkier male version of ryslin.  His posts make my head hurt." -- Mister Nutty
#37 by Charles
2009-05-18 05:23:59
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Mass Effect was a great story and presentation wrapped in a mediocre game.

No.
#38 by Ergo
2009-05-18 05:37:14
Not the version I played. The game was quite good.

"THE FUCKING KITTY LITTER FUCKING BOMB GHRHGURHGUHGRUGHRUGHURHGURHGHHGHUAHUHU KITTY" -- greg
#39 by Ergo
2009-05-18 05:39:20
#33 by Squeaky

[quote
I don't hate almost everything. I only hate you.
Pfft. Get in line, n00b.

"THE FUCKING KITTY LITTER FUCKING BOMB GHRHGURHGUHGRUGHRUGHURHGURHGHHGHUAHUHU KITTY" -- greg
#40 by Ergo
2009-05-18 05:39:30
URK

"THE FUCKING KITTY LITTER FUCKING BOMB GHRHGURHGUHGRUGHRUGHURHGURHGHHGHUAHUHU KITTY" -- greg
#41 by CheesyPoof
2009-05-18 05:56:56
The Infiltrator is a tech-savvy warrior, able to win battles by quickly disabling and killing enemies. These soldiers focus on unlocking alternate routes, gaining access to good equipment, and obtaining an advantageous position over enemies in combat

1) Tech-savvy warrior: yes, this is true. You can do damage and debuffs.
2) Win battles quickly: not so much
3) Focus on unlocking alternate routes: This is the biggest joke so far. There aren't any alternate routes.
4) Gaining access to good equipment: Doesn't seem like it. I have to use pistols in a majority of combat as I get ganked to quickly with sniper rifles (arguably good).
5) Advantageous position over enemies: See #3.

This class sounded like a cool one to play but it's the most boring one. I made the mistake of reading the class descriptions and trying to have fun.

Also, hacking mini-game is a QTE.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#42 by bago
2009-05-18 06:19:26
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Mass Effect was quite gripping.

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#43 by Jibble
2009-05-18 06:41:31
Saints Row continues to please. I came across a random activity and started it up to find myself sitting on a 4 wheeler...on fire. After spending half an hour ramming things and lighting them on fire, I took a moment to reflect on fuck you, Rockstar.

I want to go to there.

Blog. 187 lbs.  7 to go.
#44 by Milan Brezovský
2009-05-18 06:48:39
http://uglycode.com
The worst part of ME was driving/climbing side quests (the driving/shooting itself wasn't that bad).

Cheesy, I think the (4) was supposed to mean "can hack into equipment caches". I used some combo engineer/hacker/psychic class, I think, maybe actually the one that you mentioned, and I liked it. Ultimate pistols and sniper guns were awesome, EMP "spells" were pretty useful, too.

"assemblerer is like the dorkier male version of ryslin.  His posts make my head hurt." -- Mister Nutty
#45 by Caryn
2009-05-18 06:57:06
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
TF2 Spy video. Brilliant. Don't know if its old or new, but I hadn't seen it before. My love for Valve grows.

Brand new, released with the combined Sniper and Spy Updates.

#46 by m0nty
2009-05-18 07:13:31
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
/me awaits the Hellchick skin for TF2
#47 by bago
2009-05-18 12:56:35
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
Best band name I have heard today: I voted for Kodos.

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#48 by CheesyPoof
2009-05-18 15:15:16
When is the soldier update coming? Fuckers are probably leaving that for last.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#49 by Jamie
2009-05-18 16:36:38
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#37 by Charles

Mass Effect was a great story and presentation wrapped in a mediocre game.

Yes.

Played Plants vs. Zombies or Rock Band 2 this weekend, depending on whether my wife wanted to use the computer or the TV. Gaming diversification FTW!

Rock Band 2 is interesting for me. On the one hand, I'm still getting better at it the more I play. My hand now reflexively slide into place when green or orange notes come up, and I don't even think about it. And the HO/PO largely happen without my thinking about it. And of course I got all the 2-note chord combinations down to reflex level by now. So that's good.

On the other hand, it's clear I have no native talent with this game and the progression is slow. I still can't go halfway down the set list (sorted by difficulty) without hitting a brick wall on Hard. Some stuff just seems like my brain flat out can't grip it. For example, for the life of me I can't pass Go Your Own Way by Fleetwood Mac because of that rapid series of B+O, O notes. My brain just can't figure out how to tell my fingers to hit those for some reason.

Anyway, as long as they keep pumping out the DLC I guess I'll have enough mid-difficulty stuff to choose from. But I would pay $60 right now for a new Rock Band game that let me rate songs (so they could be weighted in random sets) and save set lists.

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#50 by G-Man
2009-05-18 18:33:46
ME is basically just an adventure game ala Indigo Prophecy. More interactive movie than game really.
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