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What's an Obama presidency going to be like?
November 12th 2008, 17:07 CET by Ergo

The 2008 election is over, and Barack Obama is the man. What do you see happening? He's inheriting the worst economic/political disaster in decades, so I'm curious what people think. As an Obama supporter, I hope that he'll take things in stride and try to tackle problems in an orderly fashion. But can they be fixed, outside of a global depression? Weigh in. All opinions are welcome, outside of partisan bullshit and loony conspiracy theories.
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#1 by yotsuya
2008-11-12 17:27:22
Hopefully, it'll look a hell of a lot better than the current presidency.

#2 by Matt Perkins
2008-11-12 17:31:18
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It's going to be hard to be worse...

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#3 by jjohnsen
2008-11-12 17:50:38
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Sunsets and ponies?

#4 by Jamie
2008-11-12 17:51:04
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Unicorn giggles!

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#5 by G-Man
2008-11-12 17:51:27
Is this a Joker bait topic?
#6 by Chunkstyle
2008-11-12 18:02:04
Hard times for all.  Lot's of disappointment.  But hopeful for at least 2 years.

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#7 by CheesyPoof
2008-11-12 18:02:51
I'll be the serious one. Sheesh.

Many of our problems can't be unfucked in one term, much less the first 100 days, so I don't expect much of the bullshit that is going on to be fixed by a change in the executive branch.

What I do expect to change is that policy decisions being made going forward will be more sound then they have been in the current administration. When a decision has to be made I think it will be made with intellectual honesty with for what is best for the country (as opposed to ideological lines. c.f. stem cell research). There will be some shit fuckery, but what are you going to do (If I belonged to the G-man party I would have to leave the US and form my own country).

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#8 by Jibble
2008-11-12 18:34:50
I'd like to see whether or not he really rescinds all those executive orders and closes down Guantanamo. That'd be a good start. I think he can avoid a serious economic collapse if he takes a realistic approach to things, but it's going to require some unpopular decisions.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

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#9 by jjohnsen
2008-11-12 19:04:32
http://www.johnsenclan.com
The big stuff like the economy can't be fixed quickly, the biggest change will hopefully be what Jibble mentioned.  There is already talk that he's planning on closing Guantanamo right away, and that's a great start.  Some of those Executive orders can be fixed quickly and painlessly.

#10 by FoRmaT
2008-11-12 19:27:53
What I want for you Americans is, número uno, as you may have guessed; Public Healthcare.

No homeless people who have to sleep on park benches. Less political dynasties that pass on their power from generation to generation. A fairer voting system. Tighter gun laws. Less power for religious institutions. Abortions for everyone. No death penalty. More safety for prison inmates, if necessary through 24 hour, camera vigilance. More racial & gender equality. Better relations with the rest of the world.

All that stuff can be seen in other countries, and I hope to see it in your country, too. Then, you'll truly live in the best country in the world.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#11 by Jibble
2008-11-12 19:32:10
Ha! Like we're going to take advice about our social structure from a Nazi.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 190 lbs.  10 to go.
#12 by FoRmaT
2008-11-12 19:34:34
I forgot about a big one; get rid of the draconian three strikes law.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#13 by FoRmaT
2008-11-12 19:35:59
jjohnsen, even better than closing Guantánamo would be the withdrawal of troops from Afghaniraq.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#14 by FoRmaT
2008-11-12 19:39:23
Interesting facts (Disclaimer: I haven't researched them, nor do I know where those numbers come from) about the three strikes law.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#15 by Greg
2008-11-12 19:40:38
Abortions for all and no death penalty is as amusing as the opposite.

#16 by Jibble
2008-11-12 19:43:18
Unilateral removal of troops from Iraq and Afghanistan isn't going to happen, so you might as well take that off your wish list. He'll likely do a draw-down in Iraq (though to what levels, it's unclear), but it remains to be seen whether it will be a real withdrawal (troops come home) or a refocusing of efforts (troops go to Afghanistan).

He is probably going to piss off a lot of the military contractors, though, since he seems to be continuing his pressure on killing off their plum future weapon system contracts.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 190 lbs.  10 to go.
#17 by Jibble
2008-11-12 19:43:43
Abortions for some, tiny American flags for others!

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 190 lbs.  10 to go.
#18 by FoRmaT
2008-11-12 19:44:45
I'm not in the mood for a long discussion about this, so lets just say that I defferentiate between the abortion of a few days/weeks old embrio, and the cutting to pieces and scraping out of a developing fetus.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#19 by FoRmaT
2008-11-12 19:47:19
He is probably going to piss off a lot of the military contractors, though, since he seems to be continuing his pressure on killing off their plum future weapon system contracts.

I'd very much like to see that.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#20 by Jibble
2008-11-12 19:47:26
Yes, yes, we know how YOU PEOPLE regard human life.

I think Greg is just commenting on the way you worded it, since "Abortions for all!" seems like you're advocating for more abortions.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 190 lbs.  10 to go.
#21 by yotsuya
2008-11-12 19:50:36
It reminds me of the third debate, when McCain kept saying Obama was 'Pro-Abortion' rather than 'Pro-Choice'. There IS a difference.

#22 by TreeFrog
2008-11-12 19:52:41
I worry that he's going to pander to the unions and the movie and recording industries. I wouldn't like to see a more protectionist approach to world trade and further draconian "antipiracy" laws.

Moat.
#23 by FoRmaT
2008-11-12 19:54:51
What I meant to say, is that any woman who feels she must do an abortion should be able to do so without having to go through any bullshit. Having an abortion is hard enough, I don't think anybody does that for fun.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#24 by bago
2008-11-12 19:59:19
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But I thought liberals loved death. Rush told me so.

Sabrina Poirier, a student at Pensacola who withdrew in 1997, was disciplined for what is known on the campus as "optical intercourse" — staring too intently into the eyes of a member of the opposite sex. This is also referred to as "making eye babies."
#25 by FoRmaT
2008-11-12 20:00:42
For bago.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#26 by McBain
2008-11-12 20:08:05
It reminds me of the third debate, when McCain kept saying Obama was 'Pro-Abortion' rather than 'Pro-Choice'. There IS a difference.

And the same can't be said for the other side, "anti-abortion" is much more accurate than "pro-life" which is utter claptrap.

#27 by Greg
2008-11-12 20:55:49
I'm pro-less abortions. It's really the only way to win the argument.

#28 by Jibble
2008-11-12 21:02:43
Nonsense. How pro-less abortions are you? Do you advocate banning abortions and imprisoning women who have them? Are you willing to chain yourself to the door of an abortion clinic to keep people from going in? WHY DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT DEAD BABIES?!

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 190 lbs.  10 to go.
#29 by TreeFrog
2008-11-12 21:04:12
Why should he? Dead babies never gave a shit about him. They're real assholes that way.

Moat.
#30 by gaggle
2008-11-12 21:20:24
The Fetal Five.
I smile at its simplistic attempt to offend.

"Common sense; it is so rare, it is a god damn superpower."
#31 by lwf
2008-11-12 21:38:58
I'm with Format on abortions, I support a man's right to choose.

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#32 by Caryn
2008-11-12 23:23:19
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
You will also get a puppy.

I keep looking at this pic and chuckling as I wonder, when have we ever had a president who looked like he just stepped out of a mod 60s movie as Bill Cosby when Bill Cosby was still cool?

#33 by Greg
2008-11-12 23:26:08
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage.

#34 by Fugazi(werking)
2008-11-12 23:27:46
If the US closes Gitmo quickly, that will be a good sign of some real change away from the draconian methods employed in the last 8 years.

#35 by Jibble
2008-11-12 23:33:36
My real concern is whether or not it's just going to be a token move. There are an awful lot of detention centers out there, Gitmo is just the most well-known and visible.

It really pisses me off that we're now in a position where we're simultaneously holding innocent people without cause and potentially holding guilty people without a chance of actually getting guilty verdicts (because of our idiotic reliance on torture).

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 190 lbs.  10 to go.
#36 by Fugazi(werking)
2008-11-12 23:48:12
Yeah, the torture has got to go too.

#37 by FoRmaT
2008-11-12 23:51:03
Reminds me, I'm looking forward to 24 season 7.

"Action stars of two decades ago shot .44 bullets out of their cocks. Honestly, if me and Charles Bronson were in the same room I'd kill myself just to make sure he didn't hurt me."
#38 by TreeFrog
2008-11-12 23:54:16
Caryn (#32):
You will also get a puppy.

I keep looking at this pic and chuckling as I wonder, when have we ever had a president who looked like he just stepped out of a mod 60s movie as Bill Cosby when Bill Cosby was still cool?

Best presidential photo evar. With or without the canine promise.

Moat.
#39 by jjohnsen
2008-11-13 00:39:53
http://www.johnsenclan.com
#13 by FoRmaT
jjohnsen, even better than closing Guantánamo would be the withdrawal of troops from Afghaniraq.

That's not going to happen, I'm trying to be realistic.  He can, and probably will, close Guantanamo.  He can probably get some troops out of Iraq, but he's already said he thinks Bush forgot about Osama and he's going to step up the search to find him.

#40 by jshj
2008-11-13 20:30:55
There's one promise high on my list. Tax free withdrawals from 401ks up to 10k. Then I can put my money in something that's not gone to shit.
#41 by jjohnsen
2008-11-13 21:18:23
http://www.johnsenclan.com
Wait a minute, are you my brother jshj?

#42 by mgns
2008-11-14 00:25:15
No-drama Obama. Hopefully. He's likely to get skewered by FOX and the rest of the moral majority. If he plays it cool and rational like in the campaign we can look forward to another term. If he mishandles it...

A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab?
#43 by The_Joker
2008-11-14 03:18:21
http://www.jackinworld.com
You fucks had better prepare for the worst. I've been telling you about the financial problems well in advance, and I'm warning you again now:

Celente Predicts Revolution, Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012


The man who predicted the 1987 stock market crash and the fall of the Soviet Union is now forecasting revolution in America, food riots and tax rebellions - all within four years, while cautioning that putting food on the table will be a more pressing concern than buying Christmas gifts by 2012.

...

Celente says that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.

�We�re going to see the end of the retail Christmas�.we�re going to see a fundamental shift take place�.putting food on the table is going to be more important that putting gifts under the Christmas tree,� said Celente, adding that the situation would be �worse than the great depression�.

�America�s going to go through a transition the likes of which no one is prepared for,� said Celente, noting that people�s refusal to acknowledge that America was even in a recession highlights how big a problem denial is in being ready for the true scale of the crisis.

...

�There will be a revolution in this country,� he said. �It�s not going to come yet, but it�s going to come down the line and we�re going to see a third party and this was the catalyst for it: the takeover of Washington, D. C., in broad daylight by Wall Street in this bloodless coup. And it will happen as conditions continue to worsen.�

�The first thing to do is organize with tax revolts. That�s going to be the big one because people can�t afford to pay more school tax, property tax, any kind of tax. You�re going to start seeing those kinds of protests start to develop.�

�It�s going to be very bleak. Very sad. And there is going to be a lot of homeless, the likes of which we have never seen before. Tent cities are already sprouting up around the country and we�re going to see many more.�


Start buying tents, morans!

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#44 by The_Joker
2008-11-14 03:20:44
http://www.jackinworld.com
Soros says deep recession inevitable, depression possible

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - George Soros, chairman of Soros Fund Management, testified at a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing on Thursday. Highlights:

* Said �a deep recession is now inevitable and the possibility of a depression cannot be ruled out.�



AAAAAAW YEAH

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration.
"I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka

PAY ATTENTION, YA FUKKAN MORANS.
WILL SUCK COCK FOR A Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III.
#45 by The_Joker
2008-11-14 03:49:25
http://www.jackinworld.com
UNPRECEDENTED RAPE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDERWAY IN DC

There is no 'lame duck' Congress because there will be no "new" Congress sworn in come January to "fix" things. It's the same crooks with 17 "new" faces who will join in lockstep with their brethren. Marxist Obama will bring no change because he's putting together the same players responsible for the banking collapse as his advisors. Obama is putting the wolves in the hen house. That is a fact for those who support Barack Hussein Obama. You have cut your own throat, you just haven't choked on your own blood yet.

If this sounds rather harsh, the American people are in for the shock of their lives; the reality will begin to really settle in mid first quarter of next year. The snow ball effect of job bleeding, no credit left for over extended Americans, continued foreclosures despite all the unconstitutional maneuvers by Congress and even bankrupt states, will slam this country in a few short months. The links at the bottom are just a small number that tell the story.


Could this be the crisis Powell, Albright, Brzezinski and Biden were talking about that would come within 6 months of Obama being president?

Prepare to be fucked, morans!

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration.
"I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka

PAY ATTENTION, YA FUKKAN MORANS.
WILL SUCK COCK FOR A Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III.
#46 by The_Joker
2008-11-14 03:58:52
http://www.jackinworld.com
Also, do you think this financial crisis was unexpected? I've been posting here about it coming a year and a half ago. Do you think your financial institutions like the FED and SEC didn't know what was going on? Ofcourse they did! Because THEY were doing it.

And now, they're continuing to rape your ignorant asses! All your tax money are belong to them:

The Fed is thumbing their nose at Congress: Nov. 10 (Bloomberg) -- "The Federal Reserve is refusing to identify the recipients of almost $2 trillion of emergency loans from American taxpayers or the troubled assets the central bank is accepting as collateral. Fed Chairman Ben S. Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said in September they would comply with congressional demands for transparency in a $700 billion bailout of the banking system. Two months later, as the Fed lends far more than that in separate rescue programs that didn't require approval by Congress, Americans have no idea where their money is going or what securities the banks are pledging in return."

Congress foolishly gave the privately owned "FED" and Treasury total power with the bail out deal and now they're getting their noses rubbed in it. Lending institutions who received all this borrowed, worthless paper called a 'bail out' or 'rescue plan' are spending the sweat off your back like there's no tomorrow on big bonuses and lavish events, while Congress sits around scratching their backsides. Congress has let the genie out of the bottle and they're now running around like the nitwits they are trying to shore up this disaster of their own making.

...

Congress willfully violates the U.S. Constitution now as a matter of doing business. These crooks, including Marxist Obama and Juan McCain, have simply rubber stamped the utter and complete bankruptcy of this country.


Yeees, the bankers have taken over, morans. Just like Celente said in #43. Can you now see the tax revolts he mentioned happening?

Everyone has been warning you stupid ignorant fucks about the FED. And did you listen? Nooooo, you don't listen to stupid "conspiracy theorists." That's why you're getting ass raped right now.

Joker, Ph.D. Procedural Assholian Behaviour, Pedophilosopher
- All your ass are belong to my wang Jafd. Prepare to are penetration.
"I fart in THX." - Sgt_Hulka

PAY ATTENTION, YA FUKKAN MORANS.
WILL SUCK COCK FOR A Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III.
#47 by yotsuya
2008-11-14 04:27:33
I'm at the store. What kind of cheese should I buy?

#48 by bishop
2008-11-14 04:30:33
http://www.darkintel.org/00FF00/
provolone and pepperjack.
#49 by OwenButler
2008-11-14 04:31:34
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
I just got some bocconcini.  Going to make pizzas tonight!

#50 by LPMiller
2008-11-14 04:56:55
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by the odd posting numbers, I see greasemonkey continues to bring peace.

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