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August 15th 2007, 21:26 CEST by assemblerer

Let's discuss which Indiana Jones movie is the best (for the seventy-second time), which music you hate (along with seldom TOP N lists), which books made you nerdier and which carbohydrates taste better.

Also, this would be the place to moan about the lack of PCwrite.
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#1 by eggbert
2007-08-15 21:28:55
http://www.stuffresearch.com
so how about that photography stuff? Crazy huh? Let's talk about that here.
#2 by BobJustBob
2007-08-15 21:29:16
Themed topics? What is this, Qt3?

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#3 by eggbert
2007-08-15 21:35:34
http://www.stuffresearch.com
Actually this is convenient, because I was planning on hopefully derailing another topic with this:

How do you people steal music nowadays? Did Bittorrent take over that too, because that seems awfully inconvenient for such small files. I used to use Soulseek, but that hasn't been returning any results for me lately, and it looks like my backup theft software Limewire went legit. Is there anything still relatively simple and Napsterish, or is it back to the bad old days?
#4 by Jamie
2007-08-15 21:35:47
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
I finished Moby Dick recently. Well, most of it. I skipped most of the parts about whaling. If I can find a good audio version of Ulysses I'll listen to that, too, and then I'll feel good about reading whatever the hell I want for the rest of my life.

#5 by CheesyPoof
2007-08-15 21:35:57
I like food, movies and literature. I like food the most. I would like to read more literature, but feel I'm a slow reader so I don't. I'd like to watch more movies, but after 1/2 hour or so I feel like I'd rather be gaming, if I have a game to play.

<Hugin_len> Basically, cheesy doesn't have awful taste in music, he's simply very white.
#6 by Jibble
2007-08-15 21:40:33
I skipped most of the parts about whaling.

So...most of the book, then?

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#7 by BobJustBob
2007-08-15 21:43:39
Seriously. I just finished Moby Dick a week or two ago, 600 pages and the titular whale was in about 20 of them. And only 75 or so contained any sort of action.

"Games are not novels, and the ways in which they harbor novelistic aspirations are invariably the least interesting thing about them." - Steven Johnson
#8 by Jamie
2007-08-15 21:44:50
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
Not necessarily the parts about Moby Dick the whale but all of the extraneous, boring, and pointless details about whaling, whaling ships, whales, whale diet, whale etymology, whale zoology, whale blubber, whale delacies, whale migration, whale oil, whale biology, whale ecology, whale meat, whale skinning, et cetera. I simply didn't care and didn't feel that it added enough to the rest of the book to tolerate it.

#9 by Ergo
2007-08-15 21:57:38
I am pro food, music and literature.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#10 by anaqer
2007-08-15 21:58:51
How do you people steal music nowadays?

For recent stuff, I usually look up a torrent of the album on isohunt and then either select the one file out of the bunch, or often just say 'fuck it' and delete the remainders afterwards. For rare stuff there's always emule - it's slow as hell, but since it runs in the background anyway, a day or two doesn't bother me much.

'We run a pretty tight ship around here.' 'With a pool table?' 'It's a gaming ship.'
#11 by Jamie
2007-08-15 22:00:06
jamie@jmadigan.net http://www.jmadigan.net
I just burst into Best Buy, smash the nearest cashier's face, and bolt out with as many CDs as I can cram in my pants.

#12 by Ergo
2007-08-15 22:00:36
That's the way to do it.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#13 by Matt Perkins
2007-08-15 22:00:40
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
I don't pirate music anymore these days... I just buy a CD from time to time.

My intelligence, then, is not absolute but is a function of the society I live in

"I'm not sure it's possible to make a "subtle" jab at Matt's writing ability." - Ergo
#14 by Ergo
2007-08-15 22:01:21
Yeah, CDs are so cheap via Amazon that I just buy and rip them.

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries of magic and religions. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, intelligent enough. --Aldous Huxley

DVDs
#15 by assemblerer
2007-08-15 22:03:33
http://uglycode.com
Thanks Gabe!

#16 by assemblerer
2007-08-15 22:10:12
http://uglycode.com
As for the music, I use mininova/uTorrent, since it's fast and convenient. Soulseek is still good for downloading music, but it's often slow and yes, not exactly almighty. You can get also very good results if you can share som 100-200GB of stuff and run DC++ or similar (gnutella derivative) and find a good elite hub. (But I haven't done that for a while now because of my current ISP.)

But of course, the l33test way to download mp3 is to use Internet Explorer 6 on cracked Win XP SP0 with no firewall and anti-spyware and google for 'crack porn download free mp3'. (The 'porn' and 'crack' keywords for bonus spyware.)

#17 by Dumdeedum
2007-08-15 22:38:22
http://www.dumdeedum.com
I still use Soulseek combined with torrents combined with fruitlessly googling for mp3s on the web until I give up.  Something I suppose I should get back to doing, unless I come to my senses and resubscribe to WoW...

MP3 Of The Week: should I just put this thing out of its misery?
#18 by Jibble
2007-08-15 22:39:55
Maybe you could just buy the music...you know, like a grown up.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#19 by jjohnsen
2007-08-15 22:42:29
http://www.johnsenclan.com
There's music worth stealing these days?

#20 by Squeaky
2007-08-15 23:05:42

How do you people steal music nowadays? Did Bittorrent take over that too, because that seems awfully inconvenient for such small files.

I use bittorrent. But then, I only ever steal full albums. I've often downloaded an entire discography for one song, then found I actually liked other songs by the band and loaded the whole thing into my ipod.

#21 by gaggle
2007-08-15 23:18:21
I use eMule.

Some day I'll switch completely to iTunes (or something suitably iTunesian) and I'll start buying the songs I've had around for all these years.

"a four-dimensional real vector space equipped with a nondegenerate, symmetric bilinear form."
#22 by Chunkstyle
2007-08-15 23:32:07
I listen to way less music these day, so I haven't been stealing it.  I'm still pro-music.

My belly proves that I'm pro-food.

I just finished the 6th Harry Potter book (good) and the new JRR Tolkien book (not bad).  Books is good.

Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
#23 by OwenButler
2007-08-15 23:40:41
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
#21 by gaggle

I use eMule.

Some day I'll switch completely to iTunes (or something suitably iTunesian) and I'll start buying the songs I've had around for all these years.

Not having a go at you specifically gaggle.

I've heard pirates all around the place say this over and over.  I've never actually heard of anyone actually following through with it though.  It's always "some day" or "when the prices drop reasonably" or "when there is a subscription model" or "when the is a subscription model that has the indie rock I like to rock out to".

I'm guilty of this too.

#24 by McBain
2007-08-15 23:43:44
I like sex and travel.

"Why would I wanna read the book? All I'm saying is, I see a game every day. I watch baseball every day. I have a better understanding about why things happen than the computer, because the computer only tells you what you put in it. I could make that computer say what I wanted it to say, if I put the right things in there. ... The computer is only as good as what you put in it. How do you think we got Enron?"
#25 by lwf
2007-08-15 23:49:20
It's too soon for mistresses, you haven't even been married a year yet.

5 reasons to hate minorities: Poor, Lazy, Smell bad, Wrong religion, and the rich ones take all the women. Wii.
#26 by gaggle
2007-08-15 23:56:17
Yeah Owen, it's easy to wait and wait and wait. I would add that it is especially easy since a friggin' solution has yet to arrive! So I'm not exactly surprised if someone still waits.


iTunes is the obvious exception, but we're not all Mac users or want it to intrude on our Windows systems (I use Windows Media Player)


But if I ever switch to Mac I'll obviously use iTunes, and if I use iTunes I'll want to buy the music. I like legality. Though I'll add that a solution also needs to provide advantages over piracy. DRM schemes aren't so hot, nor is jumping through too many hoops. Steam is my favorite example, it brought downloadable purchasing to my doorstep.

"a four-dimensional real vector space equipped with a nondegenerate, symmetric bilinear form."
#27 by LPMiller
2007-08-16 01:04:30
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
I've heard pirates all around the place say this over and over.  I've never actually heard of anyone actually following through with it though.  It's always "some day" or "when the prices drop reasonably" or "when there is a subscription model" or "when the is a subscription model that has the indie rock I like to rock out to".


Then you can hear it now. I don't pirate music anymore, since iTunes does what I want for a price I'm willing to pay. Before itunes, yah. But not since.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#28 by McBain
2007-08-16 01:28:44
Then you can hear it now. I don't pirate music anymore, since iTunes does what I want for a price I'm willing to pay. Before itunes, yah. But not since

Same here.

"Why would I wanna read the book? All I'm saying is, I see a game every day. I watch baseball every day. I have a better understanding about why things happen than the computer, because the computer only tells you what you put in it. I could make that computer say what I wanted it to say, if I put the right things in there. ... The computer is only as good as what you put in it. How do you think we got Enron?"
#29 by OwenButler
2007-08-16 01:33:34
http://blog.owenbutler.org/
#27 by LPMiller

I've heard pirates all around the place say this over and over.  I've never actually heard of anyone actually following through with it though.  It's always "some day" or "when the prices drop reasonably" or "when there is a subscription model" or "when the is a subscription model that has the indie rock I like to rock out to".

Then you can hear it now. I don't pirate music anymore, since iTunes does what I want for a price I'm willing to pay. Before itunes, yah. But not since.

Yeah, iTunes is pretty awesome.  I use beatport.com for some more electronic type stuff too.  To be clear, I was talking specifically to gaggles point that he would go back and buy the music he had pirated to that point.  I know plenty of people who use iTunes or a similar service.

#30 by Jibble
2007-08-16 01:50:59
Completely agree with the above. Since iTunes arrived on the scene, I haven't stolen any music.

Lady, people aren't chocolates. But you know what they are, mostly? Bastards. Bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling.

Blog. 203 lbs.  23 to go.
#31 by lwf
2007-08-16 01:54:53
I don't think itunes has music in my preferred bitrate yet.

5 reasons to hate minorities: Poor, Lazy, Smell bad, Wrong religion, and the rich ones take all the women. Wii.
#32 by Hugin
2007-08-16 02:05:50
lmccain@nber.org
I use itunes a lot.  I also have a Rhapsody account.  But I do just get some stuff directly through sites I find at Hype Machine.
#33 by LPMiller
2007-08-16 02:56:49
lpmiller@gotapex.com http://www.gotapex.com
I have in fact iTuned stuff I had previously pirated. Sometimes accidentally, sometimes on purpose.

"Testiculos habet et bene pendentes" "He has testicles, and they dangle nicely."
#34 by bago
2007-08-16 04:18:31
manga_Rando@hotmail.com
I have an emusic accout, and use soulseek.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.
#35 by yotsuya
2007-08-16 04:24:52
Score another for iTunes. It's got maybe 90% of the stuff I'm looking for. The stuff it doesn't is usually some filler song off an album I used to own that I liked.

As for books, I've been reading some of the BFI Film Classics books. These are some pretty good scholarly studies of some great films, although some of the authors are a bit too high-falutin'. I got the ones for Greed, Metropolis, and The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari, and the one for Double Indemnity should be here tomorrow.

As for films, I saw the aforementioned Double Indemnity last week and loved it. This week, I'm going to try and watch Coppola's The Conversation.

I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
#36 by eggbert
2007-08-16 05:01:22
http://www.stuffresearch.com
Well there must be something up with my computer and/or firewall then, if you all can still use SoulSeek. Even searching for things that should return tons of results like "white stripes" (before you start typing, remember, no one cares about your opinion on the White Stripes) I'm getting nothing; I just assumed they shut down the network.

Maybe you could just buy the music...you know, like a grown up.

Is this some fucked up analogy, or are you actually getting holier then thou? Because the 'thou' in this case isn't in the mood to do this conversation again. Personally I'm a steal the single tracks, buy the albums, guy. Honestly I don't care if that's morally consistent or not, it's what I do and I happen to not care enough to get all PHIL101 about it.
#37 by yotsuya
2007-08-16 05:16:48
Why steal the individual tracks when it's cheaper to buy them instead of the whole album?

I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
#38 by eggbert
2007-08-16 05:25:07
http://www.stuffresearch.com
Honestly I don't care if that's morally consistent or not, it's what I do and I happen to not care enough to get all PHIL101 about it.
#39 by Caryn
2007-08-16 05:56:02
carynlaw@pacbell.net http://www.hellchick.net
Regarding food, today on my lunch break I went down the road to the local farmer's market and came back with armloads of farm-fresh veggies: purple carrots, purple potatoes, sweet banana peppers, orange tomatoes, heads of lettuce of a variety I've never seen before, blueberries, peaches, and other stuff. So I took my leftover rice, dumped it in a pan with some olive oil, some white wine, and some chicken stock, then chopped up some purple carrots, an orange tomato, and a banana pepper along with some lemon basil I cut from my deck. Goddamn, it's tasty.

I've always disliked tomatoes immensely. I thought I'd take a chance on these orange ones, and man, am I glad. They're sweet and awesome. And peaches, too -- I used to hate peaches, but these are super juicy and full of flavor.

Farmer's markets rock. I think I'll hit the one in Redmond on Saturday and pick up a shitload of berries to preserve.

Current novel word count: 26,800 words (I'm hoping by putting it here it helps motivate me)
#40 by lwf
2007-08-16 06:01:01
Cool Caryn. Are you ever going to record more of yourself singing/playing bass? (This being also the music thread)

5 reasons to hate minorities: Poor, Lazy, Smell bad, Wrong religion, and the rich ones take all the women. Wii.
#41 by yotsuya
2007-08-16 06:25:32
Eggy-

It's not morals, it's economics. if it costs you $0.99 for a song and $12 for an album, why not buy the song if that's what you're looking for?

I watched Aliens, and I didn't even get a lousy t-shirt.
#42 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 09:21:31
http://uglycode.com
"153.11 cups of Instant Coffee + You = Death."
Funny.

#43 by m0nty
2007-08-16 10:21:57
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
"Gulp down 531.05 cans of Vanilla Coke and you're history."

I shall start now.
#44 by Gunp01nt
2007-08-16 10:42:55
supersimon33@hotmail.com

366.99 cans of Dr Pepper + You = Death.
You could drink 68.39 cans of Jolt Cola before croaking.


Holy shit.


Also, m0nty weighs about 342 pounds (156 kilos), assemblerer weighs about 128 pounds (58 kilos).

It was pretty fucking bad.
#45 by Mank
2007-08-16 11:46:10
Anyone here indulge in DVD music?

I'm thinking very seriously about replacing my current collection of 2-channel stereo stuff(my favorites mostly) with DVD versions. Since getting my newest 6.1 home theater system, I've bought a few music DVD's and am amazed at how the listening experience changes in a multichannel environment. They're a tad bit more expensive than regular CD's, and by no means am I a diehard audiophile, but I'm really surprised that this hasnt taken off as the new mainstream way of listening to music at home.

#46 by assemblerer
2007-08-16 11:48:19
http://uglycode.com
Also, Gunp01nt likes to do simple math to uncover and publish very intimate information. I WILL SUE!

Jolt Cola sounds good. Stronger than coffee? I'm in. I hope it's importable to our Gotham City/country.

#47 by anaqer
2007-08-16 11:59:50
and by no means am I a diehard audiophile

Obviously. You wouldn't have bothered to go beyond stereo LPs otherwise.

'We run a pretty tight ship around here.' 'With a pool table?' 'It's a gaming ship.'
#48 by Mank
2007-08-16 12:25:43
Obviously. You wouldn't have bothered to go beyond stereo LPs otherwise.


*shrug*

I may very well be going the audiophile route now that I've experienced listening to music this way. I just cant see continuing to buy 2-channel stuff(for home listening) after experiencing this format.

#49 by m0nty
2007-08-16 12:53:49
http://tinfinger.blogspot.com
assemblerer (#46):
Also, Gunp01nt likes to get simple math horribly wrong.

Fixed.
#50 by Gunp01nt
2007-08-16 13:08:09
supersimon33@hotmail.com
Woops, you're right. You weigh approx. 265 pounds or 120 kilograms. I didn't mean to call you fat.

"We are taking the dinosaurs back from the evolutionists!"
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