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April 25th 2005, 17:04 CEST by Your Friend

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#1 by mgns
2005-04-25 17:04:37
The fuck?

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#2 by CheesyPoof
2005-04-25 17:06:28
Hooray, a new topic!

But I really was looking forward to talking about Caryn's.  Can I do that anyway?
#3 by CheesyPoof
2005-04-25 17:06:48
That's a rhetorical question you fucks.
#4 by McBain
2005-04-25 17:10:37
Episode III 4LyfYo!
#5 by Chunkstyle
2005-04-25 17:18:03
I hope they have some lightsaber battles in this one.  Lightsaber battles are neat.

Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
#6 by Matt Perkins
2005-04-25 17:19:46
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
Yeah, can we just have 2 hours of kick ass battles and special effects?  That'll be the best new star wars ever.  Other than that, I sense much sucking.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein.
#7 by Neale
2005-04-25 17:21:52
neale@pimurho.co.uk www.pimurho.co.uk
I thought the new Star Wars films were just two hours of special effects?

I have a hard time accepting that anyone could achieve this miraculously high level of stupidity. - Caryn
#8 by Chunkstyle
2005-04-25 17:23:44
They occasionally ramble on about something before the effects kick in.

Game Developers: Don't forget the zombie monkeys.
#9 by Greg
2005-04-25 17:23:50
SPOILARS

Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader.

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#10 by Warren Marshall
2005-04-25 17:26:27
http://www.wantonhubris.com/
MORE SPOILARS

Some Jedi get killed.

Light travels faster than sound.  This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
#11 by BobJustBob
2005-04-25 17:26:35
Isn't this a little premature?

"he runs like dumbass, and jumps like moron" - fallen_child, GameFAQs
#12 by Marsh Davies
2005-04-25 17:26:43
www.verbalchilli.com
I want Wookie armies.

#13 by eggbert
2005-04-25 17:35:22
http://www.stuffresearch.com
Oh, for PC7.0, if that's still in the works, I'd like the introduction of a spoiler tag, like a lot of movie sites have. basically it's just setting the text background to equal the text color or vis-versa, so that you have to highlight it to read. Of course it still depends on people not being dicks and using the tag when appropriate, which might be too much to ask, but the way this site works it seems necessary. You could say just don't read the Episode III thread if you don't want spoilers, but you know fully well that this thread is going to turn into a religion thread or a save anywhere thread and the movie talk is going to spill over into Crapcon or PCWE or whatever. If the choice comes down to reading this site or avoiding the geek hordes that come with the opening week or two, I'm choosing the latter.
#14 by Matt Perkins
2005-04-25 17:36:42
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
I don't remember to hours of kick ass any of the previous new films...  I remember 10 minutes of fighting mixed with "I love you" for what appeared to take forever and with "Issa we gonna die?" for almost as long.  Then about 10 - 15 minutes of more fighting.  Can't we just get a bunch of battles?  We all know he can't write dialog to save his life, just skip it.  Give a quick black screen with some white text (ala Adultswim) for anything you feel we have to know and get back to the fighting.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein.
#15 by deadlock
2005-04-25 17:42:48
http://www.deadlocked.org/
[star wars geekery]
Here's an interesting article about Episode I: Did the Jedi Have it Coming?
This one is an interesting take on Jar-Jar's role:Jar Jar - Hidden Jedi?

They're fairly old - both were written around the time that EpI came out on DVD but they're interesting nonetheless. The Jar Jar one in particular is a bit redundant since it doesn't look as if Lucas is really giving him any kind of real arc.
[/star wars geekery]

Some people are afraid to croak
But Jimmy drank until he choked
And took the road for Heaven in the morning.
#16 by Jibble
2005-04-25 17:49:38
I believe that George Lucas could deliver the crotch kick of a lifetime to Star Wars fans if he makes Jar Jar a Jedi Hero in this last installment.

Fingers crossed...

Well it beats going to the video store to rent the latest hardcore releases twice a week. - G-Man
227 lbs.  47 to go.
#17 by Penguinx
2005-04-25 18:00:01
Lucas gets too much credit in this article.

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#18 by anaqer
2005-04-25 18:01:16
What's a crotch kick to an audience without balls?
/ducks

"So they don't even want to assassinate Comrade Bastya...? Am I worth shit now?!"
#19 by Jibble
2005-04-25 18:02:13
I don't know how the fuck you people use this web interface.  I have to click all over the place just to find the last post I read.

Well it beats going to the video store to rent the latest hardcore releases twice a week. - G-Man
227 lbs.  47 to go.
#20 by Matt Perkins
2005-04-25 18:04:31
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
I don't know how the fuck you people use this web interface.  I have to click all over the place just to find the last post I read.

First day on the intarweb?  Watch out, it can be scary.

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein.
#21 by Matt Perkins
2005-04-25 18:06:07
wizardque@yahoo.com http://whatwouldmattdo.com/
#17

No kidding.  I laugh at the people that say Lucas is making these movies bad on purpose.  I laugh!

"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert Einstein.
#22 by Jibble
2005-04-25 18:12:43
Blah blah blah.  I'm using the archive, showing only unread posts, but I'm not seeing the link there that takes me to the latest unread post.

Well it beats going to the video store to rent the latest hardcore releases twice a week. - G-Man
227 lbs.  47 to go.
#23 by Penguinx
2005-04-25 18:19:03
In the archives, I don't think there is one.

© Disenchanted, Lunatic Fringe 2005
#24 by Marsh Davies
2005-04-25 18:22:15
www.verbalchilli.com
Clicking on the yellow post-it note works for me.

#25 by CheesyPoof
2005-04-25 18:22:36
Yes there is.  It's the little yellow note to the left of the topic name, n00b's.
#26 by CheesyPoof
2005-04-25 18:23:11
Damn you marsh.

Where's Bob anyway? This is his job.
#27 by Jibble
2005-04-25 18:25:32
Oh, son of a bitch.  Thank you for your help.

OpenCrap is still better.

Well it beats going to the video store to rent the latest hardcore releases twice a week. - G-Man
227 lbs.  47 to go.
#28 by Dumdeedum
2005-04-25 18:26:47
http://www.dumdeedum.com
I want Wookie armies.

Would you like some Wookie legsies to with them?

#29 by Marsh Davies
2005-04-25 18:29:12
www.verbalchilli.com
I'll with you!

#30 by Penguinx
2005-04-25 18:29:32
You mean I've been clicking on the titles and skipping to the ends for nothing? Oh, sonofabitch!

© Disenchanted, Lunatic Fringe 2005
#31 by anaqer
2005-04-25 19:04:16
No wonder you don't have time to draw a comic!

"So they don't even want to assassinate Comrade Bastya...? Am I worth shit now?!"
#32 by Shadarr
2005-04-25 19:14:10
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
By the way anaqerer, thanks for the pimpage on prohardver.hu.  I have no idea what you said, but the logs don't lie.

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#33 by deadlock
2005-04-25 19:30:28
http://www.deadlocked.org/
PenguinX:
Lucas gets too much credit in this article.

Agreed. The first article that I linked is still interesting (and useful, since it explains the whole Force balance thing a lot better than Lucas does in the films) but the article that you linked and the Jar Jar one highlight - to me - the fact that Lucas doesn't really seem to be thinking about these films in any kind of joined up way. That said, I still love AotC. I just wish he hadn't bothered to make Ep I.

Some people are afraid to croak
But Jimmy drank until he choked
And took the road for Heaven in the morning.
#34 by Shadarr
2005-04-25 19:33:14
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
I think Star Wars fans are going to be disappointed in Ep 3 not because of its own merits, and not just because it doesn't wrap up all the loose ends and plot inconsistencies, but because they themselves have thought of better ways to tie the movies together than what Lucas will put in.

Sterilized for your protection.
#35 by Gunp01nt
2005-04-25 19:38:37
supersimon33@hotmail.com
I've got reservations in a movie theatre in Antwerp on May 18th. I totally avoided any trailers, footage, spoilers etc. Since I'm gonna see the movie anyway, I'd prefer to leave room for surprise.

The only thing that could possibly make me less frightening, is if someone made three movies about my childhood, pointing out how much of a retarded, non-threatening pussy I used to be.
 - Darth Vader
#36 by lwf
2005-04-25 19:40:26
Penguin - Did you end up getting any comics drawn over the weekend?

Sexy motherfucker better back that ass up.
#37 by anaqer
2005-04-25 19:46:03
Shadarr, that pope blog entry just happened to be linkworthy.
We need to change religious figureheads more often.

"So they don't even want to assassinate Comrade Bastya...? Am I worth shit now?!"
#38 by Your Friend
2005-04-25 19:49:32

and useful, since it explains the whole Force balance thing a lot better than Lucas does in the films


I'm glad as hell Lucas doesn't go into detail trying to explain it.  There's absolutely no need for him to do so.  Too much exposition kills pacing -- let people mull such things over after the movie has ended (and yes, the Jedi and the entire Republic *do* have it coming, it is pretty clear Lucas feels this way).  Not trying to half-assedly explain things in painful detail is the difference between the Matrix and its sequels, and even the original Star Wars trilogy compared to the prequels (while I do defend the prequels more than most, I won't deny Lucas spends too much exposition time on the political backdrop shit which should be a lot more backdropy, especially in Episode I).

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#39 by deadlock
2005-04-25 20:02:49
http://www.deadlocked.org/
YF:

I agree to point, but I think the problem is that Lucas doesn't really explain anything. He tosses stuff out there and then moves on or otherwise forgets about it. I mean, why is it so bad that some systems want to leave the Republic? Why do the Jedi feel so compelled to start a war over it?

Some people are afraid to croak
But Jimmy drank until he choked
And took the road for Heaven in the morning.
#40 by Marsh Davies
2005-04-25 20:05:19
www.verbalchilli.com
Who cares? It's just glowing swords and people with silly heads.

#41 by Shadarr
2005-04-25 20:09:12
shadarr@yahoo.com http://digital-luddite.com
Marsh speaks truth.

Sterilized for your protection.
#42 by deadlock
2005-04-25 20:09:59
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Of course he does. But whingin about Star Wars is the new cool. Maybe.

Some people are afraid to croak
But Jimmy drank until he choked
And took the road for Heaven in the morning.
#43 by Marsh Davies
2005-04-25 20:12:47
www.verbalchilli.com
I know that was rather flippant of me, but I mean, why worry about the plot? That's not what Star Wars is there for - it's there for epic battles and excitement and adventure and really wild things. And frankly, attempts to explain things in Star Wars has always ended in shitfuckery - remember the midochlorians or whatever they were called? It's the kind of fantasy doesn't ever hold up to scrutiny. Do you demand coherence and rigid logic from your dreams of humping *insert starlet here*? It's best just not to ask how or why.

#44 by Greg
2005-04-25 20:17:12
Marsh, you should change the word "plot" to "backstory." Everything you listed that describes what the movie is about is the "plot", where deadlock was talking about learning more about the backstory that is driving the plot. I don't think the backstory in the prequels needs to be expanded. They've covered enough to drive the plot, and the rest can be handled through some schmoe writing a book or some videogames.

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#45 by Penguinx
2005-04-25 20:20:13
lwf, two roughs, one finished minus the lettering. Depending on how late I get out tonight, we should have one for the morning! And, if not tonight, definitely tomorrow before midnight.

© Disenchanted, Lunatic Fringe 2005
#46 by deadlock
2005-04-25 20:22:24
http://www.deadlocked.org/
Greg:

I disagree - I'm not talking about backstory, I'm talking about plot. The reasons for the Jedi bringing the Republic to war are pretty essential to the plot and I don't think you can write them off as backstory or say that they're unimportant.

Some people are afraid to croak
But Jimmy drank until he choked
And took the road for Heaven in the morning.
#47 by Marsh Davies
2005-04-25 20:41:55
www.verbalchilli.com
Greg: No, I think Tie-Fighters exploding and Jedis leaping over ravenous worm creatures whilst shooting aliens are just parts of the mise en scene. The plot is why it happens, and why we are told it happens. The plot in Star Wars is secondary to the spectacle of it. Do I care how or why Samuel L. arrives  at an alien gladiatorial arena to save Obi Wan etc. from Certain Doom? Fuck no! But I care that they are going to look awesome whilst hacking aliens to pieces.

#48 by Eric T. Cheng
2005-04-25 20:46:35
erictcheng@hotmail.com
not just because it doesn't wrap up all the loose ends and plot inconsistencies, but because they themselves have thought of better ways to tie the movies together than what Lucas will put in.


I have a bad feeling about this.

SPOILERS!





Apparently Qui-gon Jinn makes a cameo as an apparition and tells Yoda (who later tells Obi-wan) how to retain your consciousness after death. I always accepted the fact that both Obi-wan and Yoda voluntarily committed suicide and let themselves be absorbed into the Force and thus become ghosts. Qui-gon never did this as he died from his wounds...his body was burned at the end of Episode I whereas both Yoda's and Obi-wan's bodies disappeared.

Also, in a deleted end scene Yoda is shown escaping the Wookie homeworld in an escape pod and lands in Dagobah.

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#49 by Penguinx
2005-04-25 20:50:54
How could they delete the scene that shows Yoda's escape? LAME.

© Disenchanted, Lunatic Fringe 2005
#50 by Dumdeedum
2005-04-25 20:53:05
http://www.dumdeedum.com
Why do the Jedi feel so compelled to start a war over it?

Because the Jedi are hoity-toity religious zealots with crazy ideas about bloodlines, that sort are all about starting wars.

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