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The Death of a Planet?
August 1st 2000, 00:10 CEST by andy

There have been a lot of comments recently about GameSpy's FilePlanet service having become unreliable, with files often being corrupted. This is a particular problem with the large movie and demo files that are released -- sometimes exclusively -- through the site.

Now, technical difficulties at FilePlanet are becoming a major problem for at least one of GameSpy's hosted sites...



One of the oldest and most actively maintained PlanetQuake sites, the Speed Demos Archive, is the focal point for the community of players that compete to finish levels in the shortest possible time. It is one site that relies heavily on supplying files, as without players being able to get the latest demos there would be little or no competition.

Due to the number of files being supplied, the team behind the site has even developed its own compression utility, dzip, that compresses demos to roughly a third the size of Winzip compression.

But a comment recently posted on the site by news admin and veteran speed-runner Nolan Pflug explains the current situation:

In case you haven't noticed, the place to get all the demos from, fileplanet.com, isn't as good as it used to be. It used to have many mirrors, and now there's only one, and it never works, so you're left with just the gamespy download. And to top things off, a lot of times you dont even get that page that shows the mirrors!

I've been trying for hours now and www.fileplanet.com refuses to display anything at all. I dont know what to say except that gamespy has been promising to fix it for months now and it's only gotten worse.

I sent an email to planetquake a while ago but never got a hint of a response.

If you're on ICQ and would like a file on SDA that you're having trouble getting, feel free to ask me.

Yesterday, I tried to download one of the SDA files from FilePlanet. There were two mirror sites listed. One worked perfectly, the other didn't work at all.

After posting his complaint on the SDA site, Nolan still didn't receive any response from GameSpy.

We contacted GameSpy's hosting relations director, Todd Northcutt, for his comments on the problem. He did not reply.

Update:

Shortly after this topic was posted we received this response from Todd Northcutt:

I haven't received a message from Nolan or any of the rest of the SDA team. I spoke with Chris Longden just a bit ago (he wrote the [database] that keeps all of the SDA records) who is a programmer here and he wasn't aware of any messages to tech support.

We asked Nolan Pflug for his response to this. He explained:

I had sent [the message] to the planetquake feedbak email in respose to comments they made in the pq mailbag replying to someone else complaining about the fileplanet situation.

The reply they posted to this guy was rather crap (pick another mirror...yeah ok) I told them to forward my mail on to whoever was reponsible for such things, since at the time I didn't know it was Todd, but it seems they didn't... it also didn't show up in the next mailbag or anything.

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#1 by "Loop"
2000-08-01 00:14:32
arse__biscuits@hotmail.com
first... naw it can't be, i just checked the site by chance...
#2 by "Dangero"
2000-08-01 00:22:52
drice@calpoly.edu
And your point is?
#3 by "Jeremy"
2000-08-01 00:27:44
jnthornh@eos.ncsu.edu
You know I really wish I had more experience with FilePlanet; as it is I don't have much to add...

I'll just come back once this thread moves into some good 'ol fashioned GSI bashing.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#4 by "Rantage"
2000-08-01 00:43:56
rantage@hotmail.com http://www.steelmaelstrom.org
I wonder how fast GSI would respond if there were a problem involving the <I>banner ad</I>  servers...<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#5 by "Darkseid-[D!]"
2000-08-01 00:52:18
darkseid-d@planetcrap.com http://www.captured.com/boomstick
fileplanet == fucking dire.

sub 1mb files, its not too bad.

Ive tried to download UT4e 6  EIGHT FUCKING TIMES, crc errors every time.

gamespy itself, crashed during an install, due to a corrupt download.



oddly planetunreals mirrors work just fine. (most seem to be Cdrom still).



I also hate sites that use blocking code and WONT link directly, how fucking hard is it.

DS<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#6 by "Paul"
2000-08-01 01:00:43
paul@paulbullman.com http://www.paulbullman.com
It's hit or miss. Four weeks ago I had one of my maps downloaded 3,000 times over two weeks and received no emails concerned with the speed, then shortly there after, another one of my maps was around 200 time in a week and I received 10 or so emails asking if there is another mirror because fileplanet isn't working correctly. Of course I plopped it up on a geocities site for a few days for anyone having trouble. Geocities at least can give users a 4-6k/s download;-)

As someone who's been hosted by GSI for several years now, I'm somewhat concerned, but we've had problems in the past and GSI has always come up with the right answers. GSI is also a heck of a lot better than a few other gaming networks i've been a news reporter, or hosted by.

- Paul
#7 by "Whisp"
2000-08-01 01:01:21
whisp_@hotmail.com
polycount gets a lot of traffic too, and their whole reason is to offer downloads as well.  While they aren't really that large (usually 1-5MB, I think), they seem to get a lot of downloads.  The site operator is always complaining about the difficulties he is having with file planet.  I'll try to dig up some examples later.  It's a big problem, and it's really hurting all the GSI sites.

-Whisp
#8 by "Certis"
2000-08-01 01:21:28
spleen@mts.net http://www.voodooextreme.com/Alteredworlds
After a few nasty experiances with fileplanet I just hit 3dfiles or meccaworld when I need to download something. 3dfiles expecially does a great job with timely and consistant releases.
#9 by "Derek Smart"
2000-08-01 01:41:48
dsmart@3000ad.com http://www.3000ad.com
<b>#8</b> "Certis" wrote...
<QUOTE>
After a few nasty experiances with fileplanet I just hit 3dfiles or
meccaworld when I need to download something. 3dfiles expecially does a great
job with timely and consistant releases. </QUOTE>

I'd offer that there is definitely something amiss - that we don't know about yet. Stay tuned. And remember, you heard it here first.

---
Derek Smart Ph.D.
Designer/Lead Developer
The Battlecruiser Series
<a href="http://www.3000ad.com">www.3000ad.com</a>

<i>It's not everyone telling me it can't be done that bothers me.
It's them interrupting me while I'm doing it!</i>


<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#10 by "Andrew Stine"
2000-08-01 01:45:26
linguica@doomworld.com http://www.doomworld.com
"AARGHGH GAMESPY SUCKS I HATE THEM THEY ARE THE BORG AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM IS STUPID"

Now that we've got that out of the way maybe we can keep this discussion civilized :)
#11 by "Jov3"
2000-08-01 01:46:34
oopz@msn.com http://www.oopz.webprovider.com
Is it really that big a deal? I mean, I to derive a certain satisfaction from seeing GSI flounder in any regard. But the fact of the matter is that this is a Good Thing. People try to download from fileplanet and fail, they go elsewhere and succeed. End result, JoeBlow gamer comes to the rightful conclusion that fileplanet "SuX0rz" and thus the beginning of the end for GSI. So cheer up Andy, this should be a day of rejoicing for you. There will be a day of reckoning, and on that day the clouds shall part. A thunderous voice shall boom from on high, and lo, it shall say <QUOTE>"your download is corrupt."</QUOTE> Thus shall come about a mass exodus from the wretched confines of the stagnant beast, GSI.
Or maybe not.

Jov3
----------------------------------------------
"I would like to take you seriously but to do so would affront your intelligence" -William F. Buckley, JR
#12 by "Talion"
2000-08-01 01:52:15
talion6@hotmail.com
<b>#9</b> "Derek Smart" wrote...
<QUOTE>I'd offer that there is definitely something amiss - that we don't know about
yet. Stay tuned. And remember, you heard it here first. </QUOTE>
Something is amiss--FilePlanet lost almost all its bandwidth--and we do know about it.  CDROM asked for moola, and GSI didn't want to pay up.  Well, now they are going to have to pay <B>someone</B>, and <B>SOON</B>, or else face a mass exodus from their site hosting.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#13 by "flamethrower"
2000-08-01 01:56:33
flamey_at_evil@hotmail.com http://flamethrower.evilavatar.com
Once day, all the cool Quake files will be gone.

Quickly, <b>scrape CDROM.COM right now!</b><I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#14 by "Lowtax"
2000-08-01 02:07:51
lowtax@somethingawful.com http://www.somethingawful.com
Perhaps this is due to the fact that Radium, the person almost solely responsible for maintaining Fileplanet, quit today.  Nobody else at GSI knows how to run the site.

In addition, I'm sure it won't help GSI very much that the person who does all the Linux backend stuff, is quitting this week as well.  Nobody else at GSI knows how to code the site.

Don't look for Fileplanet's problems to get any better soon.  Or ever.

-Lowtax
#15 by "Nolan Pflug"
2000-08-01 02:11:06
radix@planetquake.com http://planetquake.com/sda
As the person who posted the comments which are copied into the story above I figured I'd give some detail.  Most of the problem came from some corporation taking over ftp.cdrom.com and deciding not to mirror files anymore.  Gamespy had nothing to do with this.  The only thing they could do was tell everyone they host that cdrom won't be mirroring files anymore.  I understood this and figured they'd do something about it.  They said they were trying to get more mirror sites online after all.  But that was like a month ago and they haven't got any more...  I'm sure they're working on it in some way but it seems they should have done more.

I also think it's not good that SDA is called "One of the oldest and most actively maintained PlanetQuake sites" since it's not that old and I'm sure there are more active sites on pq (we get about 120 hits a day)  I do find it strange that after I posted my rant to sda news, that fileplanet has worked fine since then, and that sda was the pq "site of the day" for the whole weekend... coincedence?  Who can say....

Nolan Pflug
#16 by "None-1a"
2000-08-01 02:11:44
none1a@home.com http://www.geocities.com/none-1a/
<b>#14</b> "Lowtax" wrote...
<QUOTE>Don't look for Fileplanet's problems to get any better soon. Or ever. </QUOTE>

maybe they should start naming every thing star*.com, when dieing the big ones swell to a massive size then implode (just like GSI is).

--
None-1a, Any one bitching about spelling just can't argue with what I said.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#17 by "Derek Smart"
2000-08-01 02:28:17
dsmart@3000ad.com http://www.3000ad.com
<b>#12</b> "Talion" wrote...
<QUOTE>Something is amiss--FilePlanet lost almost all its bandwidth--and we do know about it. CDROM asked for moola, and GSI didn't want to pay up. Well, now they are going to have to pay <B>someone</B>, and <B>SOON</B>, or else face a mass
exodus from their site hosting.</QUOTE>

...and the penny drops.

------
Derek Smart Ph.D.
Designer/Lead Developer
The Battlecruiser Series
<a href="http://www.3000ad.com">www.3000ad.com</a>

<i>Vices? I don't have any vices....
oh wait, does talking shit, count?</i>



<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#18 by "Jafd"
2000-08-01 02:41:33
jafd@zombieworld.com http://jafd.isfuckingbrilliant.com/
Why is there a question mark in the topic?<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#19 by "Desiato"
2000-08-01 02:46:28
desiato_hotblack@hotmail.com http://www.spew2.com/
Ironically -- with the advent of broadband always-on connections, wouldn't some kind of distributed client program solve their problem?

What do I mean? Well - if a client was intelligent and could do some pinging, it could determine the best "route" from the requestor to the provider (preferrably more than just one) and then do the download from there.

This way -- you aren't trying to pull something down from California if you're in the UK - at least that is the theory. If you have enough clients hosting enough files (or volunteering I suppose) then you could effectively have some kind of scheme where a massive central archive wouldn't be absolutely necessary.

"But that is what mirror sites are for!" I hear you cry -- true, but if they distribute their file loads between always-on clients with some spare disk space...who knows, it could work I suppose.

But of course that would require people willing to donate their storage and bandwidth for free...Don't know if that would work for anything other than SETI or Process Tree...

Hmmm....ideas?

Desiato
#20 by "Asmo"
2000-08-01 03:02:08
tenael@hotmail.com
Derek god damn it would you stop posting your credentials on every one of your posts! I mean if we want to go to your friggin site there is a link below your name you know. And as for fileplanet...I haven't had any bandwidth problems with it...but the lack of mirrors does suck.
#21 by "Derek Smart"
2000-08-01 03:08:59
dsmart@3000ad.com http://www.3000ad.com
<b>#20</b> "Asmo" wrote...
<QUOTE>
Derek god damn it would you stop posting your credentials on every one of
your posts! I mean if we want to go to your friggin site there is a link below
your name you know. And as for fileplanet...I haven't had any bandwidth problems
with it...but the lack of mirrors does suck. </QUOTE>

Are

(a) you asking me politely to trim my sig?

(b) do you want to fight about it?

(c) *really* want to fight about it?

------
Derek Smart Ph.D.
Designer/Lead Developer
The Battlecruiser Series
<a href="http://www.3000ad.com">www.3000ad.com</a>

<i>Vices? I don't have any vices....
oh wait, does talking shit, count?</i>
<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#22 by "Derek Smart"
2000-08-01 03:11:10
dsmart@3000ad.com http://www.3000ad.com
<b>#20</b> "Asmo" wrote...
<QUOTE>Derek god damn it would you stop posting your credentials on every one of your posts! I mean if we want to go to your friggin site there is a link below your name you know. </QUOTE>

How's this one?

------
<i>The man who follows the crowd will usually get no further
than the crowd.  The man who walks alone is likely to find
himself in places no one has ever been. Someone lemme out!</i>

<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#23 by "None-1a"
2000-08-01 03:24:53
none1a@home.com http://www.geocities.com/none-1a/
<b>#19</b> "Desiato" wrote...
<QUOTE>This way -- you aren't trying to pull something down from California if you're
in the UK - at least that is the theory. If you have enough clients hosting
enough files (or volunteering I suppose) then you could effectively have some
kind of scheme where a massive central archive wouldn't be absolutely necessary.
</QUOTE>

With the internet's current setup it doesn't matter much anyway, I could try pulling some thing down from the guy next door and end up doing it via a server in california anyway. The best solutions are to simply use an FTP client with a search function (after of course you know what the hell the file name your trying to grab is), that way what ever searvers has the lowest ping time is the fastest (most downloaders work this way). Also generaly I get better download times from UK and African servers (dispite being in the US) then I do from locals, do mainly to less trafic on the sites.

--
None-1a, Any one bitching about spelling just can't argue with what I said.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#24 by "Warmonger [AI]"
2000-08-01 03:34:54
warmonger87@hotmail.com
I'm on a mod team for Legacy of the Fallen: Resurrection, for Shogo. Recently, we finished a technology preview that adds a few features that will be included in the mod. After 2-3 hours, the project lead finished uploading the file to fileplanet, which is pretty damn slow for a 12mb file. So, once it was up there, I went to go and grab it. Guess what? The file wasn't there! FilePlanet sucks. When I tried getting the KISS demo, it gave me a CRC error. 70mb at 3.5k/sec to get a CRC error? Fuck that. Fuck Fileplanet. In case you're wondering, we finally got someone to host our file, no thanks to Fileplanet. It used to be a good site to get stuff for most games, but now it can't even host a 12mb file. Sad :(
#25 by "Andy"
2000-08-01 03:36:25
andy@planetcrap.com
<b>#15</b>, Nolan Pflug:

Not often people complain that I've said something nice about them...
<QUOTE>
I also think it's not good that SDA is called "One of the oldest and most actively maintained PlanetQuake sites" since it's not that old
</QUOTE>
In PQ terms, SDA is pretty old. (Note: "old" isn't an insult. I'm saying you've been around for a while and you've stuck with it.)
<QUOTE>
and I'm sure there are more active sites on pq (we get about 120 hits a day)
</QUOTE>
I said actively maintained, not active, ie: You work on the site regularly, you don't just leave it to die for months at a time.
#26 by "Union Carbide"
2000-08-01 04:27:00
smythe@bangg.org http://www.bangg.org
<b>#19</b> "Desiato" wrote...
<QUOTE>
if a client was intelligent and could do some pinging, it could determine the best "route" from the requestor to the provider (preferrably more than just one) and then do the download from there.
</QUOTE>

It's called <a href="http://www.getright.com">GetRight</a>, HTH.<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#27 by "BloodKnight"
2000-08-01 04:53:32
bloodknight@somethingawful.com
Fileplanet has been sucking lately since CDROM left.  With all those banner ads, I am suprised that GSI didn't have the money to pay CDROM for the mirrors, that is if they wanted to.  I been getting CRC errors lately also, good thing there is Fileleech

<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#28 by "Warren Marshall"
2000-08-01 05:36:19
warren@epicgames.com http://www.epicgames.com
<b>Derek Smart</b> (#21):
<QUOTE>(a) you asking me politely to trim my sig?

(b) do you want to fight
about it?

(c) *really* want to fight about it?
</QUOTE>

Remember Asmo, you don't want to get in a fight with Derek.  He's a bad ass.  He told me himself!<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#29 by "Crusader"
2000-08-01 06:12:42
crusader@linuxgames.com http://www.linuxgames.com/
Lowtax, are you coming down for QuakeCon? Someone needs to beat up Maarten at LeftE's BBQ, and I can think of know one more deserving than the twisted mind which authored FPS Survivor...

(NOTE: Maarten does not actually deserve a beating.)
#30 by "Velo"
2000-08-01 06:38:56
imnotreally_velcro@not.gte.net.or.anywhere.else http://www.4x4evolution.com
I'll beat him up, even if he doesn't deserve it...but tell lefte TO SEND ME THE FUCKING INVITE ALREADY.

That is all.
#31 by "Baytor"
2000-08-01 06:41:33
baytor@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/baytor
<b>#22</b> "Derek Smart" wrote...
<QUOTE>
 
<I>The man who follows the crowd will usually get no further
than the crowd. The man who walks alone is likely to find
himself in places no one has ever been. Someone lemme out!</I>

</QUOTE>

I... LIKE IT!!!!

I... AM BAYTOR!!!!<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#32 by "Baytor"
2000-08-01 06:43:53
baytor@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/baytor
<b>#20</b> "Asmo" wrote...
<QUOTE>

Derek god damn it would you stop posting your credentials on every one of your posts! I mean if we want to go to your friggin site there is a link below your name you know. And as for fileplanet...I haven't had any bandwidth problems with it...but the lack of mirrors does suck. </QUOTE>

Why am I filled with the sudden urge to defend Mr. Smart's sig file?  What is this strange power he has over me.

Oh, my god, Derek Smart has a mind-control device.  Flee in horror, my children.

I... AM BAYTOR!!!!<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#33 by "Crusader"
2000-08-01 06:49:39
crusader@linuxgames.com http://www.linuxgames.com/
Err. No one.

Too tired :/
#34 by "ajb"
2000-08-01 08:07:49
aaronjb@ime.net http://nuthin'!
From Derek:
<quote>
(a) you asking me politely to trim my sig?

(b) do you want to fight about it?

(c) *really* want to fight about it?
</quote>
I don't think he gives a fuck how you trim it.  Just do it.  The link under your name should be sufficient, although it probably doesn't make you feel all warm and fuzzy like that stupid sig does.

Go back to stroking your ego, Derek.

<quote>
"Lead Designer, The Battlecruiser Series"
</quote>

Calling those games a series, instead of a broken game and a patched one, is hilarious.  Advertising that you're the lead designer of said "series" is just sick.  Fucking sick, really.

<quote>
Remember Asmo, you don't want to get in a fight with Derek. He's a bad ass. He told me himself!
</quote>

Hey, Warren, you forgot the...
<b>
Warren Marshall
Lead Architect
UnrealEd 2.0
Epic MegaGames
http://www.epicgames.com
</b>

---
aaron barnes
lead lurker
PC 3.0
http://www.planetcrap.com
#35 by "Jeremy"
2000-08-01 08:24:39
jnthornh@eos.ncsu.edu
Ah, all this talk of .sigs made me go and add one of my own.

Jeremy
--
Despite your efforts to be a romantic hero, you will gradually evolve into a postmodern plot device. <I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#36 by "Pendragon"
2000-08-01 08:46:05
penuruloki@hotmail.com
<b>#34</b> "ajb" wrote...
<QUOTE>

Hey, Warren, you forgot the...
<B>
Warren Marshall
Lead Architect
UnrealEd 2.0
Epic MegaGames
http://www.epicgames.com
</B>

---
aaron barnes
lead lurker
PC 3.0
http://www.planetcrap.com

</QUOTE>

You forgot Corporate Shill.


Pendragon

(you can stop reading now, there's nothing else in my sig)<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#37 by "Baytor"
2000-08-01 09:28:02
baytor@yahoo.com http://www.geocities.com/baytor
<b>#34</b> "ajb" wrote...
<QUOTE>Calling those games a series, instead of a broken game and a patched one, is
hilarious. Advertising that you're the lead designer of said "series" is just
sick. Fucking sick, really.

</QUOTE>
*slipping down the slippery slope of defending Derek Smart*

There <b>are</b> quite a few products he was in development, which seem to bring it into the series category.

*finds being nice to Derek Smart unnerving*

But he's still an asshole who needs to be bitch-slapped. :)

*feels much better now*

I... AM BAYTOR!!!!<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#38 by "Warren Marshall"
2000-08-01 09:32:14
warren@epicgames.com http://www.epicgames.com
<b>Pendragon</b> (#36):
<QUOTE>You forgot Corporate Shill.

Pendragon </QUOTE>


My email sig ...

<i>Warren Marshall
Level Designer/Programmer/Corporate Shill
Epic Games (www.epicgames.com)</i>

:)

--

Warren Marshall - Professional Nuisance<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#39 by "Andrew Stine"
2000-08-01 09:36:55
linguica@doomworld.com http://www.doomworld.com
<b>#19</b> "Desiato" wrote:

<quote>
Ironically -- with the advent of broadband always-on connections, wouldn't some kind of distributed client program solve their problem?

What do I mean? Well - if a client was intelligent and could do some pinging, it could determine the best "route" from the requestor to the provider (preferrably more than just one) and then do the download from there.

This way -- you aren't trying to pull something down from California if you're in the UK - at least that is the theory. If you have enough clients hosting enough files (or volunteering I suppose) then you could effectively have some kind of scheme where a massive central archive wouldn't be absolutely necessary.
</quote>

From http://www.gamespyindustries.com/ :

<quote>
Around here we coined a new term: "distributed broadband."

We all know that "broadband" is bandwidth-intensive content such as games or music or video. But the key to broadband content lies in how it is delivered. Providers offering content via a "centralized broadband" or a "one-to-many model" are constantly struggling to maintain quality while managing bandwidth and hardware considerations.

GameSpy Industries knows that this model is dead. The Internet-gaming world proved it -- it's inefficient, expensive and results in a poor-quality experience for the end user.

"Distributed broadband," however, means that anyone, from the largest corporations to the Quake II fan sitting in his home office, can provide broadband content over the Internet. That content is available from multiple sources all over the world, meaning that the end user always finds a nearby connection.
</quote>

Seems like Gamespy Industries should follow their own advice :)
#40 by "godZero"
2000-08-01 09:38:30
godzero@gmx.de
(a) I'm the best
(b) I got the biggest one
(c) You're all fagots

godZero
<i>lead guitarist/singer</i>
<a href="http://you_crazy_people">iamagod</a>
#41 by "Tom Cleghorn"
2000-08-01 09:48:46
tc10@spammegoonidareya.st-andrews.ac.uk http://www.fisty.com/~tom/
Sorry, but all this talk of qualifications and positions noted in sigs is just silly. Stop it at once.

Tom Cleghorn
El Conquistadore Magnifico
Official Member of the Junglist Massive

;)

Anyone got any recommendations for decent, cheap Slot A coolers?
#42 by "Mugwum"
2000-08-01 10:15:26
mugs@mailmonkey.org http://www.eurogamer.net
Heya TomC,

<quote>Anyone got any recommendations for decent, cheap Slot A coolers?</quote>
Get an Alpha P7125 and stop trying to go the cheap route ;-)

Heya Andy,

<quote>We contacted GameSpy's hosting relations director, Todd Northcutt, for his comments on the problem. He did not reply.</quote>
He <i>has not replied yet</i>. Todd's a good guy, I doubt he'd blank you like that.

As someone who used to be involved in FilePlanet maintenance (albeit in a fairly small capacity) I can definitely comment on the amount of care and attention that went into that site from Radium. While almost as obtuse as CRT *wink* he was pedantic and hard-working; two very important things when you're running a site that big. You need to be pedantic and pick up on each misplaced pixel and every broken link, but you also have to WANT to fix it, and that's when Ken really pulled through.

That said, the way the CDRom mirror died (and the way all of its worldwide mirrors did likewise) cripled the site. Thankfully the Gamespy FTP is still pretty nippy, but the one mirror left never seems to work for me, and the process for mirroring the files (at least, the one that was in place while I was there) was very cumbersome in itself and it could take quite a long time before the file actually mirrored itself and was available to download.

FilePlanet was a really good idea; a site than encompassed demos, patches and such, but also every single mod, skin, model, map and other addon imaginable. Aside from the old CDRom.com file archive itself, there was very little that could touch it for a while.

Hopefully they'll sort it out and it'll get back on its feet, but until then, people like Nolan at SDA are going to be stranded.
#43 by "Tom Cleghorn"
2000-08-01 10:21:00
tc10@spammegoonidareya.st-andrews.ac.uk http://www.fisty.com/~tom/
<b>Mugwum:</b>
<quote>Get an Alpha P7125 and stop trying to go the cheap route ;-)</quote>
Can't :) I need a CD burner and one of those funky SB Platinum Live thangs as well, after all :)
#44 by "godZero"
2000-08-01 10:27:56
godzero@gmx.de
<b>#43</b> "Tom Cleghorn" wrote...
<QUOTE>one of those funky SB Platinum Live thangs as well, after all :) </QUOTE>

If you're not a musician, you should get the Live! Player 1024. The same card, only without digital I/O's and shit...
#45 by "godZero"
2000-08-01 10:28:46
godzero@gmx.de
I mean, SPDIF I/O. It has ditial I/O :-)
#46 by "Barnes"
2000-08-01 10:35:22
Rbarnes@siu.edu
I have not been since spring of 99 when the frist one shut down.  When did this great place open up agian? I love reading the stories and hearing everybodys opinion.  keep it going please, i loved this place and all it had to offer.

Rob Barnes
#47 by "Tom Cleghorn"
2000-08-01 10:52:32
tc10@spammegoonidareya.st-andrews.ac.uk http://www.fisty.com/~tom/
<quote>If you're not a musician, you should get the Live! Player 1024. The same card, only without digital I/O's and shit...</quote>
Yeah, but I <i>want</i> knobs and sockets all over the front of my case :)
Seriously, I've got plenty of hi-fi and recording stuff that I could really do with being able to plug in properly... the Platinum one's where I'm going.
#48 by "Apache"
2000-08-01 10:56:56
apache@voodooextreme.com http://www.voodooextreme.com
ah, radium left. no wonder fileplanet stinks.

radium kicks ass, he used to have the best map review site back when we worked on contaminated.net / PHL.
#49 by "G-Man"
2000-08-01 11:06:15
jonmars@shiftlock.org http://www.shiftlock.org
<b>#23</b> "None-1a" wrote... (bolding mine)
<QUOTE>None-1a, <b>Any one</b> bitching about spelling just can't argue with what I said.</QUOTE>
Couldn't even spell the sig right...

 - [g.man]<I><B></B></I><I></I><I></I>
#50 by "Mugwum"
2000-08-01 11:06:48
mugs@mailmonkey.org http://www.eurogamer.net
Heya Rob,

By the way buddy, why do I read you are moving back to Arizona? I thought GameFan were located on the West coast or something?
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